• Re: Google an Apple to remove 1.5M apps

    From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun May 15 21:02:48 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    nospam wrote:

    how are they being unfairly targeted? they can easily rebuild it with
    the latest sdk, which in most cases, does not require any changes to
    the app.

    As always, the iKooks don't own the mental capacity to comprehend detail. Notice the iKooks have absolutely no idea what Apple actually did.

    All the ikooks know is what Apple (*initially*) _said_ they did.
    1. Apple lied.
    2. Apple got caught in that lie.
    3. Apple followed up with the truth.

    The truth is the removal has (almost) _nothing_ to do with when the app was last updated (and the proof was that _plenty_ of unupdated apps remained).

    The very clear forced followup, by Apple, explained it has _nothing_ to do
    with what the iKooks above clearly _believe_ it did.

    The fact the iKooks are completely ignorant of these facts is yet another indicator of their excessively low IQ and inability to grasp basic detail.
    --
    As always, the iKooks don't own the mental capacity to comprehend detail.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to nospam on Sun May 15 22:13:21 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    nospam wrote:

    ftfy

    The adults will notice the iKooks have no adult response to facts.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to spam@nospam.com on Sun May 15 16:34:32 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    In article <t5rm8h$10o3$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
    <spam@nospam.com> wrote:

    1. I lied.
    2. I got caught in that lie.
    3. Others followed up with the truth.

    ftfy

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sun May 15 16:08:32 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2022-05-15 2:13 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    ftfy

    The adults will notice the iKooks have no adult response to facts.

    The adults will notice you have presented only assertions.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sun May 15 16:07:26 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2022-05-15 1:02 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    nospam wrote:

    how are they being unfairly targeted? they can easily rebuild it with
    the latest sdk, which in most cases, does not require any changes to
    the app.

    As always, the iKooks don't own the mental capacity to comprehend detail. Notice the iKooks have absolutely no idea what Apple actually did.

    All the ikooks know is what Apple (*initially*) _said_ they did.
    1. Apple lied.

    Incorrect.

    2. Apple got caught in that lie.

    Incorrect.

    3. Apple followed up with the truth.

    Apple expanded on what was already said.


    The truth is the removal has (almost) _nothing_ to do with when the app was last updated (and the proof was that _plenty_ of unupdated apps remained).

    Incorrect.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Chris on Tue May 17 15:09:28 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Chris wrote:

    And everyone notices that you present no (new) facts. Neither
    regurgitating other people's opinions via your link spams nor making
    lists of your own opinions are facts.

    Jesus Christ. What grade are you in, Chris?

    I provided plenty of factual cites to back up what I said.
    And yet, you iKooks claim that all factual cites can't possibly exist.

    What the fuck is _wrong_ with you iKooks?
    Seriously.

    I don't even think your brain is at a _kindergarten_ level for God's sake.
    If I posted ten thousand more references, you'd claim none of them exist.

    You're _desperate_ to believe in a make-believe fabricated belief system.
    --
    *Why did Apple brazenly lie to its own app developers this week?*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/NzZvXHlLzT8>
    Why did Apple brazenly lie to its own app developers this week?
    *Apple clarifies conditions for App Store app removal* <https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/04/30/apple-clarifies-conditions-for-app-store-app-removal-extends-update-deadline-to-90-days>

    Is Apple really that stupid that they don't know their own policies?
    *Apple Clarifies Criteria For App Store Improvement Process* <https://www.republicworld.com/technology-news/other-tech-news/apple-clarifies-criteria-for-app-store-improvement-process-check-details-here-articleshow.html>

    Or, did Apple simply get caught in yet another brazen lie to the world?
    *Apple clarifies which apps are to be removed from the App Store* <https://digitnews.in/apple-clarifies-which-apps-are-to-be-removed-from-the-app-store/>

    Did Apple really think they'd get away with such brazen public lies?
    *Clarifying criteria for App Store app removal process*
    <https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=gi6npkmf>

    Apple lied.
    This is _not_ about old apps. It never was.

    I haven't seen a single low-IQ uneducated iKook _understand_ that fact yet.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue May 17 13:29:07 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2022-05-17 7:09 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    And everyone notices that you present no (new) facts. Neither
    regurgitating other people's opinions via your link spams nor making
    lists of your own opinions are facts.

    Jesus Christ. What grade are you in, Chris?

    I provided plenty of factual cites to back up what I said.

    Now that is a lie.

    And yet, you iKooks claim that all factual cites can't possibly exist.

    Nope. That's wrong at best; a deliberate lie at worst.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue May 17 21:49:34 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Andy Burnelli wrote:

    That's just plain wrong: when a framework is retired and replaced by
    somthething else, rebuilding the app without updating the code itself is
    NOT enough.

    It's no longer shocking how _ignorant_ the iKooks are.
    This removal of apps has almost _nothing_ to do with how old they are.

    It has _everything_ to do with the fact people weren't downloading them.
    The fact the iKooks are oblivious to what Apple said it was is telling.

    Ooops. That was meant for nospam. I don't think pehache is an iKook.

    To Pehache.
    1. Apple at first said it was about old apps.
    2. Then developers noted that this was not the case.
    3. Apple then corrected what it _really_ was about.

    HINT: It's not only about old apps.
    It's about old apps that haven't been downloaded all that much.

    In fact, very old apps that are still being downloaded are NOT affected.
    So all this talk about "old apps" is a red herring by the ignorant iKooks.

    It's no longer shocking how _little_ the iKooks know about iOS.
    --
    *Why did Apple brazenly lie to its own app developers this week?*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/NzZvXHlLzT8>
    Why did Apple brazenly lie to its own app developers this week?
    *Apple clarifies conditions for App Store app removal* <https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/04/30/apple-clarifies-conditions-for-app-store-app-removal-extends-update-deadline-to-90-days>

    Is Apple really that stupid that they don't know their own policies?
    *Apple Clarifies Criteria For App Store Improvement Process* <https://www.republicworld.com/technology-news/other-tech-news/apple-clarifies-criteria-for-app-store-improvement-process-check-details-here-articleshow.html>

    Or, did Apple simply get caught in yet another brazen lie to the world?
    *Apple clarifies which apps are to be removed from the App Store* <https://digitnews.in/apple-clarifies-which-apps-are-to-be-removed-from-the-app-store/>

    Did Apple really think they'd get away with such brazen public lies?
    *Clarifying criteria for App Store app removal process*
    <https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=gi6npkmf>

    Apple lied.
    This is _not_ about old apps. It never was.

    I haven't seen a single low-IQ uneducated iKook _understand_ that fact yet.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Tue May 17 13:58:38 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2022-05-17 1:49 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Andy Burnelli wrote:

    That's just plain wrong: when a framework is retired and replaced by
    somthething else, rebuilding the app without updating the code itself
    is NOT enough.

    It's no longer shocking how _ignorant_ the iKooks are.
    This removal of apps has almost _nothing_ to do with how old they are.

    It has _everything_ to do with the fact people weren't downloading them.
    The fact the iKooks are oblivious to what Apple said it was is telling.

    Ooops. That was meant for nospam. I don't think pehache is an iKook.

    To Pehache.
    1. Apple at first said it was about old apps.

    Quote and source, please!

    2. Then developers noted that this was not the case.

    Quote and source, please!

    3. Apple then corrected what it _really_ was about.

    Quote and source, please!

    HINT: It's not only about old apps.

    But you won't tell us what it's supposedly about in what passes for your
    mind.

    It's about old apps that haven't been downloaded all that much.

    In fact, very old apps that are still being downloaded are NOT affected.
    So all this talk about "old apps" is a red herring by the ignorant iKooks.

    It's no longer shocking how _little_ the iKooks know about iOS.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Wed May 18 16:11:42 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    And everyone notices that you present no (new) facts. Neither
    regurgitating other people's opinions via your link spams nor making
    lists of your own opinions are facts.

    Jesus Christ. What grade are you in, Chris?

    I provided plenty of factual cites to back up what I said.
    And yet, you iKooks claim that all factual cites can't possibly exist.

    What the fuck is _wrong_ with you iKooks?
    Seriously.

    I don't even think your brain is at a _kindergarten_ level for God's sake.
    If I posted ten thousand more references, you'd claim none of them exist.

    You're _desperate_ to believe in a make-believe fabricated belief system.

    That'll be you. You're the only one here who names people with a childish moniker of your own making. You've created your fictional narrative around people who you think blindly prefer Apple products.

    If it bothers you so much why are you here in Apple-specific ngs? Masochist
    at heart?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Wed May 18 17:48:24 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2022-05-18 5:47 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    That'll be you. You're the only one here who names people with a childish
    moniker of your own making. You've created your fictional narrative
    around
    people who you think blindly prefer Apple products.

    Chris,
    You're the moron here, not me.

    I gave you the cites which explained what Apple said and what Apple did.
    Then you told me to "prove" it.

    Which you then didn't.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu May 19 01:47:18 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Chris wrote:

    That'll be you. You're the only one here who names people with a childish moniker of your own making. You've created your fictional narrative around people who you think blindly prefer Apple products.

    Chris,
    You're the moron here, not me.

    I gave you the cites which explained what Apple said and what Apple did.
    Then you told me to "prove" it.

    Then, you took my analogy literally, like a five year old kid would.
    Chris,
    When you stop proving your IQ is about 70 (at best), I'll stop saying it
    is.
    Act like a freakin' adult for once Chris.


    If it bothers you so much why are you here in Apple-specific ngs? Masochist at heart?

    Not everyone on the Apple newsgroup is a moron like you are Chris.
    When you stop acting like a moron, I'll stop saying you act like a moron.

    It's not complicated Chris.
    Act like an adult and I'll treat you like an adult.

    Is that even _possible_ for you iKooks?

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Thu May 19 08:30:23 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    That'll be you. You're the only one here who names people with a childish
    moniker of your own making. You've created your fictional narrative around >> people who you think blindly prefer Apple products.

    Chris,
    You're the moron here, not me.

    Name calling is not an argument. You have no argument except with yourself.

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu May 19 14:51:10 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Chris wrote:

    You're the moron here, not me.

    Name calling is not an argument. You have no argument except with yourself.

    Chris,

    When you disagree with an analogy by taking the analogy literally, how
    would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    When you disagree with extremely well known very public facts, such as what Apple did, how would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    When you claim that I didn't prove why when I proved why not and it was
    Apple who said why, how would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    Tell me Chris?
    How does an _adult_ respond to someone who does what you just did?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Thu May 19 07:55:43 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2022-05-19 6:51 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    You're the moron here, not me.

    Name calling is not an argument. You have no argument except with
    yourself.

    Chris,

    When you disagree with an analogy by taking the analogy literally, how
    would you _like_ me to respond to you?


    With civility and facts, you asshole.

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  • From RonTheGuy@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu May 19 08:13:33 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On May 19, 2022, Alan wrote
    (in article<news:t65lpg$chj$1@dont-email.me>):

    When you disagree with an analogy by taking the analogy literally, how
    would you _like_ me to respond to you?


    With civility and facts, you asshole.

    Take note folks, that's civility for you!

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Thu May 19 20:50:20 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    You're the moron here, not me.

    Name calling is not an argument. You have no argument except with yourself.

    Chris,

    When you disagree with an analogy by taking the analogy literally, how
    would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    When you disagree with extremely well known very public facts, such as what Apple did, how would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    When you claim that I didn't prove why when I proved why not and it was
    Apple who said why, how would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    Tell me Chris?
    How does an _adult_ respond to someone who does what you just did?

    You're the adult. You should know.

    Hint: not with name calling

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu May 19 23:58:31 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Chris wrote:

    You're the moron here, not me.

    Name calling is not an argument. You have no argument except with yourself. >>
    Chris,

    When you disagree with an analogy by taking the analogy literally, how
    would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    When you disagree with extremely well known very public facts, such as what >> Apple did, how would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    When you claim that I didn't prove why when I proved why not and it was
    Apple who said why, how would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    Tell me Chris?
    How does an _adult_ respond to someone who does what you just did?

    You're the adult. You should know.

    Hint: not with name calling

    Again, I repeat what _you_ did, Chris.
    Not me. You.

    1. You disagreed with what was published in _many_ news reports.
    2. You disagreed with what Apple _initially_ said was why they did it.
    3. Then you disagreed with Apple's _corrections_ of why they did it.

    Then you ask _me_ to prove Apple didn't do it for those published reasons.
    When I gave you an analogy to explain, you took the analogy literally.

    Tell me Chris, how is an _adult_ supposed to carry on an adult conversation with you when you clearly do what you clearly do.

    a. You don't read any of the news (ever!)
    b. So you're clueless (completely) about what Apple said & what Apple does.
    c. Yet, you want to complain about _everything_ Apple says and does.

    Then, you ask me to prove to you what is already in all the news.
    Don't you realize that's not what a "normal" adult would do?

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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to Chris on Fri May 20 03:00:55 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    In message <t635ru$gvs$1@dont-email.me> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    If it bothers you so much why are you here in Apple-specific ngs? Masochist at heart?

    No, asshole and attention whore.


    Please, every time you're going to reply to him imagine that little
    chubby he gets and think again. Do you really want to be responsible for
    the only sexual stimulation that obese naked troglodyte gets in his
    life? Please, think of that image first.

    --
    “But I don’t understand! I don’t understand how this all happens. How we go
    through this. I knew her, and then she’s – there’s just a body, and I don’t
    understand why she just can’t get back in it and not be dead…anymore! It’s
    stupid! It’s mortal and stupid! And…and Xander’s crying and not talking, and…and I was having fruit punch, and I thought, well, Joyce will never have any more fruit punch, ever, and she’ll never have eggs, or yawn, or brush her hair, not ever, and no one will explain to me why!”

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to RonTheGuy on Thu May 19 20:53:10 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2022-05-19 9:13 a.m., RonTheGuy wrote:
    On May 19, 2022, Alan wrote
    (in article<news:t65lpg$chj$1@dont-email.me>):

    When you disagree with an analogy by taking the analogy literally, how
    would you _like_ me to respond to you?


    With civility and facts, you asshole.

    Take note folks, that's civility for you!

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.


    It's called giving back what someone is handing out as implicitly
    acceptable to him.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sat May 21 08:48:50 2022
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
    Chris wrote:

    You're the moron here, not me.

    Name calling is not an argument. You have no argument except with yourself.

    Chris,

    When you disagree with an analogy by taking the analogy literally, how
    would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    When you disagree with extremely well known very public facts, such as what >>> Apple did, how would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    When you claim that I didn't prove why when I proved why not and it was
    Apple who said why, how would you _like_ me to respond to you?

    Tell me Chris?
    How does an _adult_ respond to someone who does what you just did?

    You're the adult. You should know.

    Hint: not with name calling

    Again, I repeat what _you_ did, Chris.
    Not me. You.

    1. You disagreed with what was published in _many_ news reports.
    2. You disagreed with what Apple _initially_ said was why they did it.
    3. Then you disagreed with Apple's _corrections_ of why they did it.

    I did none of the above. Certainly not in this thread. I don't have time
    read all your verbal diarrhoea.

    Then you ask _me_ to prove Apple didn't do it for those published reasons. When I gave you an analogy to explain, you took the analogy literally.

    It was hyperbole.

    Tell me Chris, how is an _adult_ supposed to carry on an adult conversation with you when you clearly do what you clearly do.

    Firstly, I wouldn't continually attack people for their views. Secondly, I wouldn't continually breast beat how great I was and how much of an asset
    to this ng I am. Thirdly, I wouldn't repost effectively the same thing
    again and again both within existing threads and in new off-topic threads.

    Finally, I always take people at face value but if someone behaves badly I ignore or plonk them. I don't tell them they're a child and I'm an adult.

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