XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Andy Burns wrote:
<https://i.postimg.cc/SKGfmgnK/appleid05.jpg> Apple won't let you back in!
It's traditional on a login screen, to NOT give any clues why the login was unsuccessful, don't want to help the bad guys know the difference between non-existent/locked-out/wrong-password etc.
Hi Andy,
Thanks for trying to advise me but I already know why Apple locked me out.
I was _testing_ what Apple would do if I logged in using VPN.
(Just like I've tested what Google GMail does when you log in on VPN.)
The question here is whether Microsoft _can_ do the same things to you.
Now that Microsoft is _forcing_ a login/password into their servers.
Rest assured I _know_ why Apple locked me out (as I was testing what they'd
do when I used VPN, from Russia no less!) when forced to _re_ validate my identity.
Bear in mind there's _nothing_ wrong with my login.
Nothing wrong with my password.
Apple knows this.
Apple let's me use the App Store every day.
I even loaded the latest operating system just a week ago.
There's nothing wrong with my login nor with my password.
And that's my point.
For whatever reason, Apple wants me to _re_ validate who I am.
Every single day.
*Can Microsoft do the same thing?*
That.
That is the question.
This is an _important_ question about Microsoft - not about Apple.
The only reason for bringing up Apple is that Apple _does_ lock you out.
Hence the question is whether Microsoft can.
Given this is a question about Microsoft, please don't get me wrong as I am rather intelligent, as are you, but it's not obvious my question is about
the _power_ that Microsoft attains when they now _force_ a login.
Apple forces the same login.
Worse - Apple forces a periodic _validation_ of your login.
Even worse, if you refuse to _re_ validate - Apple cripples your device!
Don't get me wrong as I'm not complaining about Apple. I was _testing_ Apple
by not logging into my iPad for four years (even as I used it daily).
Every day for the latter two years, Apple nagged me to "re" verify.
Not verify. But _re_ verify. (as in verify again)
Bear in mind the facts that Apple lets me install apps on the App Store
which requires a valid login, so Apple has no problem with my login.
Bear in mind Apple lets me delete Siri recordings so Apple has no problem collecting my Siri recordings (and allowing me to delete collected data).
Bear in mind Apple even let me install the latest new operating system.
So there is _nothing_ wrong with the forced login account, of itself.
What's "wrong" is that for whatever reason, Apple wants me to _re_ verify.
I refuse to _re_ verify (as a test of what Apple would do).
I found out that Apple has the power to permanently lock up your device.
Sure, they probably did that because I used a VPN to _re_ verify.
But that isn't my point as I was _testing_ what Apple would do.
The fact is Apple did it. [See proof in sig where you know I'm intelligent.] Apple unilaterally permanently _locked_ me out of my own hardware.
OK. No big deal. That's what I get for _testing_ what Apple will do.
I'm not complaining.
What I'm _asking_ here is whether Microsoft "can" do the same thing to you?
Can they?
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Want proof?
1. Apple "ID Verification" prompts come up ten, twenty or more times a day.
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https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg>
2. Apple "Sign-in to iCloud" prompts come up a dozen or more times a day.
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https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg>
3. Apple won't let you sign in even with the _correct_ login & password.
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https://i.postimg.cc/8zSvshQf/appleid04.jpg>
4. The Apple web site is so poorly designed it doesn't even tell you why.
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https://i.postimg.cc/SKGfmgnK/appleid05.jpg>
5. Eventually, as it did with one of my iPads already, Apple destroys it.
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https://i.postimg.cc/g008YhxP/appleid02.jpg>
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https://i.postimg.cc/q75t7MSk/appleid03.jpg>
6. On my 2nd iPad, the Apple apps stop working (but everything else works!)
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7. Every single day, many times a day, you're confronted with tracking crap
such as this "Some account services require you to sign in again"
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8. Interestingly, you can update your iOS (which I almost never do) as shown
here where I updated this week from iOS 13 to iOS 15 (and it let me).
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https://i.postimg.cc/nLjqk2HD/osupdate03.jpg>
9. And you can wipe out your Siri recordings (due to the recent zero-day).
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https://i.postimg.cc/sfZ0XP71/osupdate02.jpg>
10. Yet Apple tracking servers still require "Apple ID Verification"
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https://i.postimg.cc/gj0r2cBP/osupdate01.jpg>
11. And, you can install an app, but if you delete it, you can't re-install.
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https://i.postimg.cc/bJPKDSZ1/osupdate04.jpg>
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12. In the end, if you attempt that forced validation on VPN, Apple
unilaterally destroys your investment by locking you out of it forever!
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https://i.postimg.cc/q75t7MSk/appleid03.jpg>
13. All because Apple tracking servers _require_ periodic ID verification.
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