that's a 12 year old ipad.
android tablets half that old are not supported anymore.
however, they all still work, just as they did when new.
they are limited in what they can do because nearly all new apps
require newer ios/android versions and newer hardware.
Given those facts above, and given Apple won't let her log into the iCloud,
yes they will.
yet another example of the blind leading the blind.
what options does she have just to use this older iPad which she owns?
she can use it all she wants. apple doesn't care.
it's not as capable as a more recent model, but that's to be expected.
Apple doesn't own this device. She owns it.
correct. that is not in dispute.
Apple wants to kill it. I get that.
nope. apple does not want to kill it, nor could they kill it even if
they did want that, which they do not.
She called me for advice on how to load software onto her iOS 5.1.1 circa 2010 Model MC497LL iPad because she says everything unilaterally no longer works.
Given those facts above, and given Apple won't let her log into the iCloud,
what options does she have just to use this older iPad which she owns?
Apple doesn't own this device. She owns it.
Apple wants to kill it. I get that.
She is an old lady who keeps her iPads in immaculate condition.
All she wants is for her property to work as it did prior to Apple unilaterally making her life miserable. Is that too much to ask of Apple?
android tablets half that old are not supported anymore.
however, they all still work, just as they did when new.
There's a huge difference I believe in that she is telling me over the phone that even her old existing apps are no longer working on her old iPad.
I have _plenty_ of Android devices where I do agree that _some_ apps which log into a mothership no longer work (e.g., I think I once saw that with the "talkatone" app),
but the vast majority of apps on Android don't care what
the version number is of the operating system (it's just a meaningless
number to the app itself).
If the app doesn't need to log into a mothership, how is the app to even _know_ that it's an old app on an old operating system?
For all the app knows, if it doesn't need to log into the mothership, is
that it's still stuck in 2010 as nothing else on the iPad should have
changed since then.
they are limited in what they can do because nearly all new apps
require newer ios/android versions and newer hardware.
This may be true for the iOS apps but it's not even close to true for
Android apps. On Android, almost all your old apps _still_ work fine, particularly without any Google Account being needed for Android.
The app that doesn't log into _anything_ doesn't even _know_ it's an "old" app on an old Android for heaven's sake.
Given those facts above, and given Apple won't let her log into the iCloud,
yes they will.
yet another example of the blind leading the blind.
In this case she's an old lady who is not in the least technical, and, unfortunately, she confuses her google account with her icloud account
(given they're the same address). So it's difficult to help her, I agree.
Still... all she wants is for her iPad to work as it did in 2010.
Had this been a 2010 Android, the apps would almost all work just fine.
Even had this been a 2010 Windows 7, the apps would almost all work fine.
It's only iOS which kills the apps if Apple wants to claim the iPad too old. And even then, it's likely _because_ Apple forces a mothership account.
If Apple did not force a mothership account onto all its iPads, would she be having this problem? I think not.
Nonetheless, the problem exists. For billions of people it exists.
The question is what can she do that's useful with her expensive iPad?
what options does she have just to use this older iPad which she owns?
she can use it all she wants. apple doesn't care.
it's not as capable as a more recent model, but that's to be expected.
I suggested she load a kitchen-clock app to at least turn her expensive iPad into a kitchen clock. Do you know of a kitchen clock app that she can download today on the Apple App Store that will work with her iOS version?
Apple doesn't own this device. She owns it.
correct. that is not in dispute.
I also suggested she try to just use the old iPad as a web browser only (since she said "Google Works" (whatever that means to her).
But it might be more useful as a speakerphone to her, I would think.
Apple wants to kill it. I get that.
nope. apple does not want to kill it, nor could they kill it even if
they did want that, which they do not.
Given she has many iPads (most of course newer than this one) she's the one telling me that this older iPad won't do anywhere near what it used to do.
As always with iPads, I'm just trying to find something _useful_ that it can do.
All I'm trying to do to help her is find _one_ app that we can turn that
iPad into that does something useful for an old lady who stays at home.
For example, if you know of how she can load a kitchen-clock app that works with that iPad, that would be helpful from you.
Isn¢t just AMAZING how Arlen has SO many friends with iPads and iPhones AND none them can do simple things with them?
An older friend of mine has two old Apple iOS devices which, if they were
Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
An older friend of mine has two old Apple iOS devices which, if they were
Isn’t just AMAZING how Arlen has SO many friends with iPads and iPhones AND none them can do simple things with them?
THEN, they all contact Arlen - a known Apple hater - for advice? 🙄
OTOH, it is true that there are, and have been, a fair number of
applications that are not possible on iOS, but that can be accomplished
on Android.
But by the same token, there are a few things not possible
on Android that are possible on iOS.
irrelevant. it's a 12 year old ipad, regardless of who she is or what
she does.
old products become obsolete. it's that simple.
some apps might not work because they rely on external services that no longer exist or require security protocols that a device that old does
not support, because ten years ago, they didn't exist.
banks in particular are very aggressive in requiring the latest apps
and operating systems.
modern apps won't run because they require something much newer than
ios 5.
not only is it true for android, but it's true for all platforms.
the problem is that it's now 2022 and the world expects significantly
more functionality.
the problem is that it's going to be very, very difficult to find apps
that support ios 5 anymore.
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:44:52 -0600, Bob Campbell wrote:
Isn¢t just AMAZING how Arlen has SO many friends with iPads and iPhones AND none them can do simple things with them?
Why don't you back up that claim of imaginary iOS functionality Alan Baker?
*Name just one*
If this were an Android device just as old, there would be thousands of apps which would work. On iOS, she can't find even one that works with her iPad.
how to say 'i am stupid' without actually saying those words.
learn to read and fix your buggy scripts.
there are hundreds of thousands of ipad apps that could be used.
they're just no longer available on the app store because ios 5 is *12* *years* *old*.
Our favorite troll seems to delight in finding things that iOS doesn't support or allow and concentrate on those things.
It reminds me of the old joke:
Patient: "Doctor,it hurts when I do this."
Doctor: "Then don't do that."
OTOH, it is true that there are, and have been, a fair number of
applications that are not possible on iOS, but that can be accomplished
on Android. But by the same token, there are a few things not possible
on Android that are possible on iOS.
OTOH, it is true that there are, and have been, a fair number of
applications that are not possible on iOS, but that can be accomplished
on Android.
very few, and very niche, such as nmea.
But by the same token, there are a few things not possible
on Android that are possible on iOS.
actually, there are *many* things possible on ios that are not possible
on android, or at best, very difficult, for both users and developers.
Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
An older friend of mine has two old Apple iOS devices which, if they were
Isn’t just AMAZING how Arlen has SO many friends with iPads and iPhones AND none them can do simple things with them?
THEN, they all contact Arlen - a known Apple hater - for advice? 🙄
It's a common tactic among trolls,and if you pay attention you will see
that sms does almost exactly the same thing (ie, make up stories about friends so they can complain about meaningless "issues").
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:54:38 -0500, nospam wrote:
how to say 'i am stupid' without actually saying those words.
learn to read and fix your buggy scripts.
I'm asking for just one URL to just one useful iOS app for an old iPad.
you own the brain of a small child.
How do you download a single useful app to an older iPad model MC497LL
An older friend of mine has two old Apple iOS devices which, if they were Android, would still work just fine on an older Android (the apps are what matter and most Android apps work just fine on almost any Android version).
Yet, Apple, in its infinitely despicable customer unfriendly greed, has essentially unilaterally killed each of her two older Apple devices.
She called me for advice on how to load software onto her iOS 5.1.1 circa 2010 Model MC497LL iPad because she says everything unilaterally no longer works.
Given those facts above, and given Apple won't let her log into the iCloud, what options does she have just to use this older iPad which she owns?
Apple doesn't own this device. She owns it.
Apple wants to kill it. I get that. Apple is despicable. I know that.
But all she wants to do is to use her iPad for _something_ useful.
Anything.
She owns it and Apple has no right to unilaterally kill her iPad.
I'm advising her to do one thing and one thing only which is turn that older iPad into a single-use device, whether that's a kitchen clock or her GMail account, or her Google Voice telephone, or whatever, as that's all it's
going to be good for.
But how does she even download the kitchen clock app if it won't download?
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still work. Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I could install a clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't compatible with MFA so won't get any further.
If you want to blame anyone for not supporting old iPads blame the
developers as the App Store is there and works.
As per usual "Arlen" is looking for an argument and posts false information to do so.
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still work. Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I could install a clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't compatible with MFA so won't get any further.
If you want to blame anyone for not supporting old iPads blame the
developers as the App Store is there and works.
As per usual "Arlen" is looking for an argument and posts false information to do so.
developers do not care about 12 year old ipads. nor do users. the
number of 12 year old ipads still in use is almost none, which is why developers do not care.
My old iPads run apps like Mail, Safari, Contacts, Reminders, Notes,
games like Settlers of Catan, and so on without issue. You want to
ignore those though in order to troll. So you'll claim "those aren't
useful" or some other such complete nonsense, because you're not here to learn anything or help anyone - you are here just to troll. You suck as
a human being, Arlen. You have no life outside of trolling, which is evidenced by the fact that you spend literal *hours* of your time each
day posting lame-ass trolls to the Apple newsgroups. You're fucking
pathetic.
If this were _any_ other decade-old device - useful apps would still exist.
Only Apple cripples old products in a unilateral goal to decrease its value.
Fuck off
In article <srra65$58l$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still work.
Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I could install a
clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't compatible with MFA so
won't get any further.
it works if you append the 2fa code to the password.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 07:53:41 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still work.
Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I could install a
clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't compatible with MFA so
won't get any further.
If you want to blame anyone for not supporting old iPads blame the
developers as the App Store is there and works.
As per usual "Arlen" is looking for an argument and posts false information >> to do so.
Name a single fact you claim I posted that is "false information" Chris.
*Name Just One*
Yet, Apple, in its infinitely despicable customer unfriendly greed, has essentially unilaterally killed each of her two older Apple devices.
She called me for advice on how to load software onto her iOS 5.1.1 circa 2010 Model MC497LL iPad because she says everything unilaterally no longer works.
Moving forward on what Chris "claims" above (sans a single backup fact)...
If what Chris claims is true, and I have no reason to disbelieve Chris since he has what I consider almost an average level of intelligence, then Chris can _name_ a single App Store URL that I can provide to this old lady.
*Name Just One*
Without that App Store URL, Chris is not answering the question asked.
*Name Just One*
In article <srra65$58l$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still
work. Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I
could install a clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't
compatible with MFA so won't get any further.
it works if you append the 2fa code to the password.
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still
work.
Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I could
install a clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't
compatible with MFA so won't get any further.
If you want to blame anyone for not supporting old iPads blame the
developers as the App Store is there and works.
As per usual "Arlen" is looking for an argument and posts false
information to do so.
Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 07:53:41 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still work. >>> Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I could install a >>> clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't compatible with MFA so >>> won't get any further.
If you want to blame anyone for not supporting old iPads blame the
developers as the App Store is there and works.
As per usual "Arlen" is looking for an argument and posts false information >>> to do so.
Name a single fact you claim I posted that is "false information" Chris.
*Name Just One*
Easy. Here's two:
Yet, Apple, in its infinitely despicable customer unfriendly greed, has
essentially unilaterally killed each of her two older Apple devices.
Apple hasn't killed anything. An original iPad will still work, including
the AppStore.
She called me for advice on how to load software onto her iOS 5.1.1 circa
2010 Model MC497LL iPad because she says everything unilaterally no longer works.
I tried a few apps and all of them on my iPad still work. Very slowly,
mind, but they get there in the end. This includes the stock apps like Safari, Maps, AppStore, Notes and iBooks.
Moving forward on what Chris "claims" above (sans a single backup fact)... >>
If what Chris claims is true, and I have no reason to disbelieve Chris since >> he has what I consider almost an average level of intelligence, then Chris >> can _name_ a single App Store URL that I can provide to this old lady.
*Name Just One*
Without that App Store URL, Chris is not answering the question asked.
*Name Just One*
sigh...
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/a-crossword-search-tool/id433062734?uo=4
Just installed it on my ipad.
If you simply googled rather than ranted and raved you'd find the websites that have catalogued apps still available for iOS 5.
Plus you wouldn't keep showing yourself up.
On 14 Jan 2022 00:14:12 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
My old iPads run apps like Mail, Safari, Contacts, Reminders, Notes,
games like Settlers of Catan, and so on without issue. You want to
ignore those though in order to troll. So you'll claim "those aren't
useful" or some other such complete nonsense, because you're not here
to learn anything or help anyone - you are here just to troll. You
suck as a human being, Arlen. You have no life outside of trolling,
which is evidenced by the fact that you spend literal *hours* of your
time each day posting lame-ass trolls to the Apple newsgroups. You're
fucking pathetic.
My lame trolls are beyond ridiculous
your incessant childish dancing around
What current App Store App URL will add "something useful" to this old
iPad? *Name Just One*
*Name Just One*
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still work. >>> Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I could install a >>> clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't compatible with MFA so >>> won't get any further.
it works if you append the 2fa code to the password.
Clever! App install was attempted but required iOS 8 :(
On 14 Jan 2022 18:42:51 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
it works if you append the 2fa code to the password.
Yep, and this is the case with any older model Apple mobile device.
The only person who posted to this thread from the Apple quarter who
wasn't a heartlessly despicably liar is Chris, who is faithfully
_trying_ desperately to load something (anything!) onto his older
iPad, in order to find something (anything!) to undo what Apple did to
this older iPad.
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still
work. Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps
So far, based on what I've seen anyway, Chris has failed
If this were _any_ other platform but iOS, we wouldn't have this
problem.
despicably heartless people like Jolly Roger, Lewis and nospam
Liar. Chris already said he has plenty of apps that run fine.
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still
work. Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps
So far, based on what I've seen anyway, Chris has failed
Liar. Chris reported that the apps the original iPad still work, and
anyone with one knows this from first-hand experience. So you're not
fooling anyone who knows better, loser..
If this were _any_ other platform but iOS, we wouldn't have this
problem.
The only "problem" is in your warped imagination.
despicably heartless people like Jolly Roger, Lewis and nospam
Ad hominem is all you have, trollboi.
it works if you append the 2fa code to the password.
Yep, and this is the case with any older model Apple mobile device.
Just installed it on my ipad.
Now he's move the goal post and troll about other things, probably while insulting you and anyone else participating in the thread. ; )
If you simply googled rather than ranted and raved you'd find the websites >> that have catalogued apps still available for iOS 5.
He's not interested in actual answers or actually helping his supposed "friend" with her old iPads.
Plus you wouldn't keep showing yourself up.
He can't help himself due to his insane obsession with Apple.
On 14 Jan 2022 18:46:01 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
Just installed it on my ipad.
Now he's move the goal post and troll about other things, probably
while insulting you and anyone else participating in the thread. ; )
Jolly Roger failed to earn his GED three times!
Same here with our 1st generation iPad and iPad 2. All of the apps
installed on it work fine (albeit naturally slowly by today's
standards). The notable and reasonable exception is some apps that communicate with online servers now require newer versions of those apps
and the developers of those apps (not Apple) have dropped support for
older devices.
Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I could
install a clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't
compatible with MFA so won't get any further.
If you want to blame anyone for not supporting old iPads blame the
developers as the App Store is there and works.
Yep. To wit, we keep one of our old iPads in the living room
specifically to play games, including Settlers of Catan - an app that
was first released 12 years ago and is still regularly updated by the
app developer (the last update was on Sep 23, 2020), and supports and
works just fine on these ancient devices: <https://fnd.io/#/us/search?mediaType=all&term=settlers%20of%20catan>
The fact is Apple has no say regarding how long app developers will
support older devices - that is a decision that is left solely up to individual app developers.
As per usual "Arlen" is looking for an argument and posts false
information to do so.
His trolls are just pathetic, and are easily debunked by anyone who
knows anything.
On 15 Jan 2022 05:05:11 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
And you've shown how powerless you truly are in this thread, where
multiple people have shown you to be completely full of shit.
My only goal is to troll.
And you've shown how powerless you truly are in this thread, where
multiple people have shown you to be completely full of shit.
The only one who even _understood_ the problem set, was Chris, by the way.
The problem, so far, is that the _only_ apps suggested are so childish that to even _discuss_ them (a crossword puzzle tool? WTF?) would be a disgrace.
If all you _can_ do on your iPad is play silly kindergarten games, then you _deserve_ Apple gouging your eyes out, Jolly Roger - but I don't believe
that we can't find at least one app that can turn her iPad into something useful.
There must be at least one app on the current App Store that she can
download today that can turn her older iPad into something actually useful.
Plus you wouldn't keep showing yourself up.
He can't help himself due to his insane obsession with Apple.
I find it interesting that you consider the truth about Apple to be insane.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:02:02 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
I just charged my original ipad. It's iOS 5.1.1 and the apps still work. >>>> Including the App store. It isn't hard to find apps and I could install a >>>> clock *if* MFA want enabled. That old an iOS isn't compatible with MFA so >>>> won't get any further.
it works if you append the 2fa code to the password.
Clever! App install was attempted but required iOS 8 :(
Thank you Chris for being a sincerely helpful adult (a rarity on this ng).
I shouldn't have been so deprecating to Chris, who, admittedly, is worlds above the three die-hard Apple kooks (Jolly Roger, Lewis, & nospam).
Jolly Roger, Lewis and nospam are fathomless despicably heartless people;
but Chris is actually trying which means his heart isn't cold as theirs is.
While Jolly Roger, true to form, proposed kindergarten apps, and while
nospam simply boasted emptily about his always fabricated imaginary iOS functionality, at least Chris did the right thing, which was to _attempt_ to load something (anything!) useful onto an iPad that Apple has destroyed.
I don't want to send this old lady on a doomed-to-failure wild goose chase even as the three staunchest Apple kooks always send innocents that way.
Hence I wish to openly say that I do very much _appreciate_ that Chris is trying to find something (anything) that can be loaded onto an iPad that
will turn what Apple wishes so badly to be worthless, into something useful.
Thank you Chris, for trying to load something (anything) onto that iPad.
If you ever do find something (anything) useful to add to that iPad, I will let this lady know a URL to that App Store app (she's on 5.1.1 by the way).
Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
...
The problem is you don't ever genuinely want a solution.
Let us know when you post some truths. Historically and given the hundreds
of posts per month you post on here anything that does end up being correct
I suspect is only through blind luck.
Let us know when you post some truths. Historically and given the hundreds of posts per month you post on here anything that does end up being correct I suspect is only through blind luck.
Harry/Arlen/Andy occasionally posts factual information, but it's become rarer and rarer. I filtered him out again because his schtick is just annoying. He used to be at about 30% accurate/70% inaccurate, but when
he fell to only about 10% factual that was enough for me to reactivate
the filter on his latest alias.
I've certainly criticized Apple in the past, but it's been when there's
some issue that actually exists and I always use references and
citations to ensure that our resident trolls can't dispute anything
(well they may still dispute it, I don't know, but at least no one
believes them when they can't back up what they post).
There are plenty.
How do you download a single useful app to an older iPad model MC497LL
An older friend of mine has two old Apple iOS devices which, if they were Android, would still work just fine on an older Android (the apps are what matter and most Android apps work just fine on almost any Android version).
Yet, Apple, in its infinitely despicable customer unfriendly greed, has essentially unilaterally killed each of her two older Apple devices.
She called me for advice on how to load software onto her iOS 5.1.1 circa 2010 Model MC497LL iPad because she says everything unilaterally no longer works.
Given those facts above, and given Apple won't let her log into the iCloud, what options does she have just to use this older iPad which she owns?
Apple doesn't own this device. She owns it.
Apple wants to kill it. I get that. Apple is despicable. I know that.
But all she wants to do is to use her iPad for _something_ useful.
Anything.
She owns it and Apple has no right to unilaterally kill her iPad.
I'm advising her to do one thing and one thing only which is turn that older iPad into a single-use device, whether that's a kitchen clock or her GMail account, or her Google Voice telephone, or whatever, as that's all it's
going to be good for.
But how does she even download the kitchen clock app if it won't download?
How do you download a single useful app to an older iPad model MC497LL
An older friend of mine has two old Apple iOS devices which, if they were Android, would still work just fine on an older Android (the apps are what matter and most Android apps work just fine on almost any Android version).
Yet, Apple, in its infinitely despicable customer unfriendly greed, has essentially unilaterally killed each of her two older Apple devices.
She called me for advice on how to load software onto her iOS 5.1.1 circa 2010 Model MC497LL iPad because she says everything unilaterally no longer works.
Given those facts above, and given Apple won't let her log into the iCloud, what options does she have just to use this older iPad which she owns?
Apple doesn't own this device. She owns it.
Apple wants to kill it. I get that. Apple is despicable. I know that.
But all she wants to do is to use her iPad for _something_ useful.
Anything.
She owns it and Apple has no right to unilaterally kill her iPad.
I'm advising her to do one thing and one thing only which is turn that older iPad into a single-use device, whether that's a kitchen clock or her GMail account, or her Google Voice telephone, or whatever, as that's all it's
going to be good for.
But how does she even download the kitchen clock app if it won't download?
How do you download a single useful app to an older iPad model MC497LL
An older friend of mine has two old Apple iOS devices which, if they were Android, would still work just fine on an older Android (the apps are what matter and most Android apps work just fine on almost any Android version).
Yet, Apple, in its infinitely despicable customer unfriendly greed, has essentially unilaterally killed each of her two older Apple devices.
She called me for advice on how to load software onto her iOS 5.1.1 circa 2010 Model MC497LL iPad because she says everything unilaterally no longer works.
Given those facts above, and given Apple won't let her log into the iCloud, what options does she have just to use this older iPad which she owns?
Apple doesn't own this device. She owns it.
Apple wants to kill it. I get that. Apple is despicable. I know that.
But all she wants to do is to use her iPad for _something_ useful.
Anything.
She owns it and Apple has no right to unilaterally kill her iPad.
I'm advising her to do one thing and one thing only which is turn that older iPad into a single-use device, whether that's a kitchen clock or her GMail account, or her Google Voice telephone, or whatever, as that's all it's
going to be good for.
But how does she even download the kitchen clock app if it won't download?
On 2022-01-15, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
On 14 Jan 2022 18:48:49 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
*Name Just One*
There are plenty.
links to kindergarten games and not anything that would turn an older
iPad into something even as barely useful as a dumb kitchen clock
would be.
As usual, Arlen attempts to move the goal post when he is easily shown
to be full of shit. "Name Just One" becomes "kindergarten games" don't
count! : ) Arlen proclaims that playing games isn't something you should
be able to do on old iPads, and that nobody wants to do such a thing,
when that is clearly bullshit.
On 14 Jan 2022 18:48:49 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
*Name Just One*
There are plenty.
links to kindergarten games and not anything that would turn an older
iPad into something even as barely useful as a dumb kitchen clock
would be.
The fact remains that if this were anything other than an Apple
device, it would still be useful even as it's a decade old (e.g.,
Android & Windows).
It's only Apple products where your large investment is destroyed over
time.
That's the great thing about apple devices, you don't have to worry
about forgetting to stop using them after their expiration date. Apple
will remind you by 'updating' your device
so it stops working
designed to fail
On 2022-01-15, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2022-01-15, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger failed to earn his GED three times!
LOL! So what's my name, Arlen? Don't be a chickenshit pussy. Go ahead
and tell everyone who you think I am, trollboi... if you can!
Our simple goal is, was, and always will be for this thread, is to
find at least one useful app to load onto this older iPad to make it
useful again.
In article <srv0a2$280$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
Let us know when you post some truths. Historically and given the hundreds >> > of posts per month you post on here anything that does end up being correct
I suspect is only through blind luck.
Harry/Arlen/Andy occasionally posts factual information, but it's become
rarer and rarer. I filtered him out again because his schtick is just
annoying. He used to be at about 30% accurate/70% inaccurate, but when
he fell to only about 10% factual that was enough for me to reactivate
the filter on his latest alias.
those numbers are not only baseless, but *way* off.
1% accurate would be optimistic, and that would be by mistake.
your criticisms are fabricated and trivially debunked with numerous
cites, including ones from apple.
you deliberately ignore everyone and everything that contradicts your
bogus and often ludicrous claims, pretending that you are the sole
authority.
And a bunch of games continue to work just fine as well
On 15 Jan 2022 22:44:55 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
the fact Arlen absolutely *refuses* to acknowledge due to his
strange, little Apple hate boner is that most apps on the original
iPad and models after that continue to work fine, including first-
and third-party productivity apps like these:
Note: I have just verified each of these work fine on my 1st gen iPad
sitting beside me.
* Clock
* Contacts
* FaceTime
* Safari
* Reminders
* Calendar
* Notes
* Maps (both Apple and Google apps)
* Messages
* Find My
* Remote
* AdBlock (a system-wide ad blocker that Arlen claimed doesn't exist)
* iBooks
* Remoter VNC
* News
* NewsTap (Usenet client)
* Deliveries
* Camera
* Fast Camera
* Camera++
* Photos
* iMovie
* Keynote
* SketchBook
* Adobe Illustrator Draw
* Adobe Photoshop Express
* Diptic
* Wikipedia
* Wolfram Alpha
* Word Hippo
* Instructables
* Lightbot Code Hour
* Google Translate
* Music
* GarageBand
* Alchemy
* Weather
* MyRadar
* WeatherBug
* Sky Guide
* Scanner (police & fire radio scanner)
* Yelp
* My Measurements (augmented reality measurement app)
* ...and so on
And a bunch of games continue to work just fine as well
If all you can find are kindergarten games
you're wasting your time
I mean, it's not like iOS/iPad OS is the world's largest gaming platform
by every possible metric or anything, right?
On 2022-01-15, sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's the great thing about apple devices, you don't have to worry
about forgetting to stop using them after their expiration date. Apple
will remind you by 'updating' your device
Nope, Apple software updates are *optional*. : )
so it stops working
Nope, the 1st gen iPad works great even today.
There you go again, making false statements. The ipad isn't destroyed and certainly not by Apple.
useful ios apps *do* exist. you just are incapable of finding them.
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote
OTOH, it is true that there are, and have been, a fair
number of applications that are not possible on iOS,
but that can be accomplished on Android.
very few, and very niche, such as nmea.
But by the same token, there are a few things not
possible on Android that are possible on iOS.
actually, there are *many* things possible on ios that are not possible
on android, or at best, very difficult, for both users and developers.
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 12:11:58 -0500, nospam wrote:
useful ios apps *do* exist. you just are incapable of finding them.
And yet, you can't even name a _single_ url to one.
*Name Just One*
A kitchen clock timer app would be nice.
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 13:54:07 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
There you go again, making false statements. The ipad isn't destroyed and
certainly not by Apple.
Remember, she has _plenty_ of iPads.
All we're trying to do is turn this older iPad into something useful, Chris.
Is this a much more correct set of factual statements more to your liking?
"If this were an old Android phone, it wouldn't have this problem.
If this were an old Windows PC, it wouldn't have this problem.
It's only an old Apple iOS device that has this problem."
It doesn't matter _who_ destroyed her investment in Apple devices, Chris.
What matters is we're trying to find something (anything!) on the App Store today that she can download and install that will turn it into something useful again.
I appreciate that you're the only one who didn't recommend a silly game, but even the app's you tried to install, _failed_ to install (as you noted).
All I want to find is a _single_ url to a _useful_ app she can install.
*Name Just One*
If nobody can find even a _single_ useful fullscreen clock app to put on
this older iPad (which isn't even that old, in terms of modern
computers), then it's proof that iOS has the _shortest_ life of all
consumer platforms.
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