• Is your new iPhone 12 smartphone battery always dead?

    From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Sep 16 19:18:38 2021
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2021-09-16, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
    *The problem with new iPhone 12 cameras is they're always dead*, nospam.

    And yes, I bought the new iPhone 12 mini recently

    You must be a masochist.

    Nope, just a loser troll.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Robin Goodfellow on Thu Sep 16 19:16:33 2021
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
    *The problem with new iPhone 12 cameras is they're always dead*, nospam.

    And yes, I bought the new iPhone 12 mini recently

    You must be a masochist.

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  • From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Sep 28 02:11:18 2021
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> asked
    Have you considered taking it back to T-Mobile and demanding a different phone?

    Hi badgolferman,
    I'm sorry I bought the iPhone 12 mini - mainly because of the crap battery.
    Expensive phone === cheap components === high Apple profits

    Given you're not an apologist, I can converse with you in a normal manner.

    I don't think it's a problem Apple didn't design into the phone simply
    because we already know from tons of news reports that Apple put crappy
    battery components inside the iPhone 12 series to make greater profits.
    (If you want cites, I've given them many times, but I can repeat them.)

    We also know, just from the specs, that the battery is downright puny
    on the iPhone 12 mini that I bought. Hence, it's to be _expected_ to have
    poor battery life designed into the iPhone 12 mini by Apple engineers.
    (Just wait until the mandatory throttling kicks in...) :(

    In addition, we know of _many_ (many) many reports from iPhone 12 mini users
    of poor battery life and all the published battery life tests show it too.
    (again, cites have been covered already in the past but I'll give them.)

    In fact, everyone on the net says the battery life is bad, where even today,
    in an iPhone 13 Gizmodo review, they said this of the iPhone 12 series:
    "If you have an iPhone 12, you don't really need a 13.
    But if you want one and you can get one at a steep discount, or free,
    then *it's worth the upgrade for the battery life alone*."

    *The New Expensive iPhone Is Better Than the Old Expensive iPhones*
    <https://gizmodo.com/the-new-iphone-is-better-than-the-old-iphones-1847749247>

    From this, I don't think _anyone_ can get good battery life out of the
    iPhone I bought (it wasn't solely for me as I have others I purchase for).
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  • From badgolferman@21:1/5 to Robin Goodfellow on Tue Sep 28 11:20:27 2021
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:
    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> asked
    Have you considered taking it back to T-Mobile and demanding a different
    phone?

    Hi badgolferman,
    I'm sorry I bought the iPhone 12 mini - mainly because of the crap battery.
    Expensive phone === cheap components === high Apple profits

    Given you're not an apologist, I can converse with you in a normal manner.

    I don't think it's a problem Apple didn't design into the phone simply because we already know from tons of news reports that Apple put crappy battery components inside the iPhone 12 series to make greater profits.
    (If you want cites, I've given them many times, but I can repeat them.)

    We also know, just from the specs, that the battery is downright puny
    on the iPhone 12 mini that I bought. Hence, it's to be _expected_ to have poor battery life designed into the iPhone 12 mini by Apple engineers.
    (Just wait until the mandatory throttling kicks in...) :(

    In addition, we know of _many_ (many) many reports from iPhone 12 mini users of poor battery life and all the published battery life tests show it too.
    (again, cites have been covered already in the past but I'll give them.)

    In fact, everyone on the net says the battery life is bad, where even today, in an iPhone 13 Gizmodo review, they said this of the iPhone 12 series:
    "If you have an iPhone 12, you don't really need a 13.
    But if you want one and you can get one at a steep discount, or free,
    then *it's worth the upgrade for the battery life alone*."

    *The New Expensive iPhone Is Better Than the Old Expensive iPhones*
    <https://gizmodo.com/the-new-iphone-is-better-than-the-old-iphones-1847749247>

    From this, I don't think _anyone_ can get good battery life out of the
    iPhone I bought (it wasn't solely for me as I have others I purchase for).


    In that case you may be better served to keep and use it as a test bed for upcoming iOS versions so we can hear reports about new shortcomings in the iPhone design. There are bound to be so many new ones which you can have personal experience with and provide unbiased detailed reports to the rest
    of us.

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  • From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to badgolferman on Tue Sep 28 19:48:10 2021
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> asked
    In that case you may be better served to keep and use it as a test bed for upcoming iOS versions so we can hear reports about new shortcomings in the iPhone design. There are bound to be so many new ones which you can have personal experience with and provide unbiased detailed reports to the rest
    of us.

    Hi badgolferman,

    Thanks for your insight because I know you own an iPhone 12 (not the mini though) & I know you're not here to unreasonably defend Apple to the death.

    Again, I'll speak to you like an adult so there is nuance in what I say as
    I'm not dumbing' down the message just so that an apologist can understand.

    I own Apple products for two reasons which are (a) I want to know what is bullshit and what is fact when I read about Apple products on the net, and
    (b) I buy phones all the time for my family, some of which are teen girls
    who _love_ the iPhone like you can't believe someone could love a piece of expensive plastic & glass - even to the point of loving Apple Care!

    I have many iPads, some of which are used solely for the grandkids to play
    with but others are used by my wife to watch Netflix on, while others are
    for me to play with (I used to love the battery life and large screen).

    Lately, with the battery life on my last two Androids being phenomenal, the iPad no longer serves that purpose, and the screens on the last three
    Android phablets I've owned are "big enough" for almost everything nowadays.

    So the iPad is relegated, mostly, to testing out Jolly Rogers bullshit, nospam's bullshit, Lewis' bullshit, et. al, where they _always_ bullshit.

    Keep in mind the entire reason I'm on this newsgroup is the same people sadistically and purposefully led me astray by sending the innocent me on doomed to fail wild goose chases when I first asked (years ago) how to do
    even the _simplest_ things on iOS (which, for iOS, is often impossible).

    None of the apologists deserve any respect.

    All of them are despicable people. Sadistic even. Liars all. Cowards too.
    They respond to facts with child-like insults. They're not adults.

    They're not even normal people these strange apologists, badgolferman.
    No apologist deserves an iota of respect from intelligent adults.

    They're ignorant. And they will remain forever ignorant.
    That means they're stupid (because ignorance can be cured but not a low IQ).

    Think of Alan Baker, and you can realize what I mean by apologists' low IQ. I've never personally met people as ill informed as these apologists are.

    At the moment, I remain here to inform the rather few adults on this
    newsgroup (none of whom are rocket scientists either, by the way - save for David Empson who hasn't posted in years AFAIK) of the facts as reliably reported.

    You are always free to disagree with my assessments of facts, but you have
    to agree with the fact that I present the facts - and those facts are never wrong (because I don't post them unless they're already reliably reported).

    If I make a mistake I openly admit it and you know this to be true.
    Have you ever seen an apologist admit his mistake. (I know of your thread.)

    If anything, they dumb down to childish retorts such as nospam's "ftfy"
    idiocy whenever he has no recourse to deny what is well known to be fact.

    The fact remains that it's reliably reported the entire iPhone lineup has
    cheap expensive batteries - and - in particular - the iPhone 12 mini has
    dismal battery life (under controlled test circumstances).

    That's just a fact we have to live with.

    Note that I can back up _every_ claim I make but since you're not an apologists, you can ask if there's ever a claim you don't know that I have a cite for (the apologists never read them because they don't want to know).
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    Nobody has ever reproduced Apple's battery life claims in independent tests.

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  • From Robin Goodfellow@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Sep 29 08:16:13 2021
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    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> asked
    Nope, just a loser troll.

    Adults like badgolferman & JF Mezei & Ant et. al, will notice the apologists call anyone who speaks factual truth about Apple products, a "loser troll."

    Why?
    Is it because apologists fearfully _hate_ actual facts about Apple products?

    Here's more reliable evidence today fully supporting my battery-life claims:
    "If you have an iPhone 12, you don't really need a 13.
    But if you want one and you can get one at a steep discount, or free,
    then *it's worth the upgrade for the battery life alone*."

    *The New Expensive iPhone Is Better Than the Old Expensive iPhones*
    <https://gizmodo.com/the-new-iphone-is-better-than-the-old-iphones-1847749247> --
    What you apologists hate is anyone who speaks facts about Apple products.

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