• Re: Suggestions for suitable screen sharing when in hotels

    From Davey@21:1/5 to Tweed on Fri Apr 12 09:58:18 2024
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 07:54:51 -0000 (UTC)
    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

    iPads cast to Chromecast devices without difficulty. The problem with
    all these devices that depend on casting is they need to be on the
    same subnet as the iPad. Often hotel systems require logins from the
    device and frequently firewall devices from each other. The other
    difficulty is you need access to an HDMI port on the hotel TV and the
    ability to switch signal source. This may not always be possible.

    Maybe buy a One-for-All remote control, make sure you have the coding instructions with you, and see if you can control the hotel's TV set.
    Maybe, maybe not. Most ones that I have experienced have very limited functionality with the provided remote controls. Some have a
    limited 'Guest' mode that can only be unlocked with the correct
    service remote control device.

    But anything is worth a try!

    Gone are the days of simply plugging your X-Box into the back of the
    set. I once unplugged the cable, for some reason unrelated, and the
    'phone rang, with the front desk staff asking me why the TV was
    unplugged, they thought I was stealing it. This was back in 1991, in
    Kansas City.

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  • From JMB99@21:1/5 to Chris on Fri Apr 12 11:42:40 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, uk.telecom.mobile

    On 12/04/2024 10:58, Chris wrote:
    I'd rather avoid packing yet another cable, but will consider it.


    You sound like one of the backpackers who go to great lengths to save a
    couple of ounces in their rucksack!

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 12 17:28:55 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, uk.telecom.mobile

    On 2024-04-12 06:42, JMB99 wrote:
    On 12/04/2024 10:58, Chris wrote:
    I'd rather avoid packing yet another cable, but will consider it.


    You sound like one of the backpackers who go to great lengths to save a couple of ounces in their rucksack!

    Serious hikers certainly do.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Chris on Fri Apr 12 17:27:35 2024
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-04-12 02:57, Chris wrote:

    When travelling it'd be nice to be able to watch my netflix or player on
    the hotel's/accommodation's TV. What do people recommend? I usually carry
    an ipad/iphone with me and I travel mainly in the UK and europe.

    A bit of searching suggests there's only three or four options options: chromecast, fire stick, roku, Apple TV. With Apple TV the only one recommended for iOS. Is that really the best option? Sounds like a major faff. I travel light so a single would be ideal.

    What are people's real world experiences, please?

    If it isn't free on the hotel TV I don't watch it.

    If I were on a long trip with several days at a time in one hotel, I
    might carry along an Apple TV and movies on my iPhone or laptop. But
    haven't to date. There's usually something better to do. (Read).

    If you're out of country, then Netflix might be an issue:

    - access on your account in a different country (VPN can fix this unless Netflix objects to that specific VPN provider).

    - they might think you were password sharing and bill you.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Fri Apr 12 16:51:59 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, uk.telecom.mobile

    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2024-04-12 06:42, JMB99 wrote:
    On 12/04/2024 10:58, Chris wrote:
    I'd rather avoid packing yet another cable, but will consider it.


    You sound like one of the backpackers who go to great lengths to save a
    couple of ounces in their rucksack!

    Serious hikers certainly do.


    How much does an iphone weigh?

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Fri Apr 12 18:09:56 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, uk.telecom.mobile

    On 2024-04-12 17:51, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Alan Browne wrote:
    On 2024-04-12 06:42, JMB99 wrote:
    On 12/04/2024 10:58, Chris wrote:
    I'd rather avoid packing yet another cable, but will consider it.


    You sound like one of the backpackers who go to great lengths to save
    a couple of ounces in their rucksack!

    Serious hikers certainly do.


    How much does an iphone weigh?

    Left back in the car a serious hiker doesn't care. But, if brought along:

    About 175g - 200g or so. Given the functionality, that's quite light.
    Of course re-charging will be an issue - so add a small solar panel to
    your burden if out for more than 2 days.

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  • From Dave Royal@21:1/5 to Tweed on Sat Apr 13 07:17:38 2024
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    When travelling it'd be nice to be able to watch my netflix or player on
    the hotel's/accommodation's TV. What do people recommend? I usually carry
    an ipad/iphone with me and I travel mainly in the UK and europe.

    A bit of searching suggests there's only three or four options options:
    chromecast, fire stick, roku, Apple TV. With Apple TV the only one
    recommended for iOS. Is that really the best option? Sounds like a major
    faff. I travel light so a single would be ideal.

    What are people's real world experiences, please?


    iPads cast to Chromecast devices without difficulty. The problem with all these devices that depend on casting is they need to be on the same subnet
    as the iPad. Often hotel systems require logins from the device and frequently firewall devices from each other. The other difficulty is you
    need access to an HDMI port on the hotel TV and the ability to switch
    signal source. This may not always be possible.

    A Firestick and an Apple TV can operate independently, but you’ve still got the issues of logging it in to the hotel network. I find many of these
    hotel captive portals to be barely functional at the best of times.

    Perhaps an hdmi adapter dongle for the iPad and a physical hdmi cable is
    the most likely thing to work?


    Yes, go for an hdmi cable. I've been in several hotels recently
    that had an hdmi socket in the wall next to the desk so that you
    could use the TV as a monitor.

    Big hotel chains often have custom TVs with only one cable into
    them and no other inputs. Small hotels are more likely to have a
    consumer TV, often small and old. One hotel I was in this year
    had no hdmi but a SCART socket. (20 years ago I carried a 3.5mm
    to SCART connector to play music through the hotel
    TV.)
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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Chris on Sat Apr 13 17:24:40 2024
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Chris wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-12 02:57, Chris wrote:

    When travelling it'd be nice to be able to watch my netflix or player on >>> the hotel's/accommodation's TV. What do people recommend? I usually carry >>> an ipad/iphone with me and I travel mainly in the UK and europe.

    A bit of searching suggests there's only three or four options options:
    chromecast, fire stick, roku, Apple TV. With Apple TV the only one
    recommended for iOS. Is that really the best option? Sounds like a major >>> faff. I travel light so a single would be ideal.

    What are people's real world experiences, please?

    If it isn't free on the hotel TV I don't watch it.

    If I were on a long trip with several days at a time in one hotel, I
    might carry along an Apple TV and movies on my iPhone or laptop. But
    haven't to date. There's usually something better to do. (Read).

    That's also an option :)

    If you're out of country, then Netflix might be an issue:

    - access on your account in a different country (VPN can fix this unless
    Netflix objects to that specific VPN provider).

    - they might think you were password sharing and bill you.

    Not that had that issue here in multiple countries. The only thing I had a couple of years ago was a show not being available in a particular country due to licensing restrictions. A VPN fixed that.


    You can easily avoid all these problems. Just never book a room at any
    hotel that does not provide apple TVs. It isn't worth it.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Apr 14 00:37:51 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, uk.telecom.mobile

    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    ...
    About 175g - 200g or so. Given the functionality, that's quite light.
    Of course re-charging will be an issue - so add a small solar panel to
    your burden if out for more than 2 days.

    Can those portable solar panels recharge iPhones fast though? I read that they don't.
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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Apr 14 09:53:02 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, uk.telecom.mobile

    On 2024-04-13 20:37, Ant wrote:
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    ...
    About 175g - 200g or so. Given the functionality, that's quite light.
    Of course re-charging will be an issue - so add a small solar panel to
    your burden if out for more than 2 days.

    Can those portable solar panels recharge iPhones fast though? I read that they don't.


    I read that when hiking I won't find hot and cold running water and nice
    clean porcelain toilets along the trail either.

    When hiking one would not normally deplete the iPhone battery on a daily
    basis. Or even close. If one is doing so, maybe they should re-think
    their hiking goals.

    Hiking panels (20 - 30W) run 600 - 700g. It's in that zone of "I'll
    bring it if I _have_ to, not want to." Depending on rest time, you'd
    probably be able to keep the battery up.

    There are higher power portable panels - of course (shocking revelation
    ahead) they are heavier and bulkier.

    All that said, I've never brought a solar panel hiking - this summer
    camping trip (drive in) I may acquire 100 or 200W of solar capacity - TBD.

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    nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Spike on Sun Apr 14 17:44:19 2024
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-04-14 17:28, Spike wrote:
    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-13 20:37, Ant wrote:
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote: >>> ...
    About 175g - 200g or so. Given the functionality, that's quite light. >>>> Of course re-charging will be an issue - so add a small solar panel to >>>> your burden if out for more than 2 days.

    Can those portable solar panels recharge iPhones fast though? I read that they don't.


    I read that when hiking I won't find hot and cold running water and nice
    clean porcelain toilets along the trail either.

    When hiking one would not normally deplete the iPhone battery on a daily
    basis. Or even close. If one is doing so, maybe they should re-think
    their hiking goals.

    Hiking panels (20 - 30W) run 600 - 700g. It's in that zone of "I'll
    bring it if I _have_ to, not want to." Depending on rest time, you'd
    probably be able to keep the battery up.

    There are higher power portable panels - of course (shocking revelation
    ahead) they are heavier and bulkier.

    All that said, I've never brought a solar panel hiking - this summer
    camping trip (drive in) I may acquire 100 or 200W of solar capacity - TBD.

    Soldiers backpacks on D-Day could weigh 70 to 100lbs…and that was before they were soaked in sea-water.

    Some paratroops equipment weighed 150lbs, if they were also carrying base-plates, tubes, or ammunition for mortars, and they had to be shoved up the ladder into their C-47s.

    Not sure how hiker=invasion soldier, but whatever ...

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    nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”
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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Apr 14 21:28:53 2024
    XPost: uk.telecom.mobile, misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2024-04-13 20:37, Ant wrote:
    In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    ...
    About 175g - 200g or so. Given the functionality, that's quite light.
    Of course re-charging will be an issue - so add a small solar panel to
    your burden if out for more than 2 days.

    Can those portable solar panels recharge iPhones fast though? I read that they don't.


    I read that when hiking I won't find hot and cold running water and nice clean porcelain toilets along the trail either.

    When hiking one would not normally deplete the iPhone battery on a daily basis. Or even close. If one is doing so, maybe they should re-think
    their hiking goals.

    Hiking panels (20 - 30W) run 600 - 700g. It's in that zone of "I'll
    bring it if I _have_ to, not want to." Depending on rest time, you'd probably be able to keep the battery up.

    There are higher power portable panels - of course (shocking revelation ahead) they are heavier and bulkier.

    All that said, I've never brought a solar panel hiking - this summer
    camping trip (drive in) I may acquire 100 or 200W of solar capacity - TBD.

    Soldiers backpacks on D-Day could weigh 70 to 100lbs…and that was before
    they were soaked in sea-water.

    Some paratroops equipment weighed 150lbs, if they were also carrying base-plates, tubes, or ammunition for mortars, and they had to be shoved up
    the ladder into their C-47s.

    --
    Spike

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