To be successfully attacked by malware, a Mac user must interactively
download the malware to their computer
That's dead wrong.
Nope, it's correct.
There have been *plenty* of zero-day zero-click no-interaction holes
in Apple's operating systems
There have been plenty of zero days in *all* operating systems
On 2024-03-17, Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:
On 16 Mar 2024 15:35:32 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
To be successfully attacked by malware, a Mac user must interactively >>>>> download the malware to their computer
That's dead wrong.
Nope, it's correct.
No Jolly Roger. You're dead wrong.
Nope, I'm right.
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
The only reason you are trying to single Apple out is to troll.
On 16 Mar 2024 15:35:32 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
To be successfully attacked by malware, a Mac user must interactively
download the malware to their computer
That's dead wrong.
Nope, it's correct.
No Jolly Roger. You're dead wrong.
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-17, Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:
On 16 Mar 2024 15:35:32 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
To be successfully attacked by malware, a Mac user must interactively >>>>>> download the malware to their computer
That's dead wrong.
Nope, it's correct.
No Jolly Roger. You're dead wrong.
Nope, I'm right.
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple devices?
The only reason you are trying to single Apple out is to troll.
If you choose NOT to do employ anti-malware software, how do you avoid "interactively downloading malware to your computer" if you do not
recognise it as such? It may be well obfuscated and/or trick you.
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-17, Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:
On 16 Mar 2024 15:35:32 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
To be successfully attacked by malware, a Mac user must
interactively download the malware to their computer
That's dead wrong.
Nope, it's correct.
No Jolly Roger. You're dead wrong.
Nope, I'm right.
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple devices?
The only reason you are trying to single Apple out is to troll.
If you choose NOT to do employ anti-malware software, how do you avoid "interactively downloading malware to your computer" if you do not
recognise it as such? It may be well obfuscated and/or trick you.
No Jolly Roger. You're dead wrong.
Nope, I'm right.
On 2024-03-17, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-17, Sten deJoode<StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:
On 16 Mar 2024 15:35:32 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
To be successfully attacked by malware, a Mac user must interactively download the malware to their computer
That's dead wrong.
Nope, it's correct.
No Jolly Roger. You're dead wrong.
Nope, I'm right.
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple devices?
Nope. Anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days.
And there's no
such thing as antivirus software on Apple mobile devices anyway.
The only reason you are trying to single Apple out is to troll.
If you choose NOT to do employ anti-malware software, how do you avoid "interactively downloading malware to your computer" if you do not recognise it as such? It may be well obfuscated and/or trick you.
You clearly didn't read or understand the safe computing practices I
already outlined. Go back and read it again - slowly if needed.
Also, fuck off, troll.
On 16 Mar 2024 15:35:32 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
To be successfully attacked by malware, a Mac user must interactively download the malware to their computer
That's dead wrong.
Nope, it's correct.
No Jolly Roger. You're dead wrong. <https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+zero+click+exploit>
Q: *Why are you dead wrong?*
A: Because you are ignorant.
A: Because you're an Apple fanatical nut case.
A: Because your IQ is lower than half of normal.
(Pick one to three, but no more than three.) <https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2024/01/03/the-pegasus-wake-up
-call-iphone-security-in-the-face-of-zero-click-exploits/>
*You never read anything about Apple that Apple didn't feed you*, JR.
HINT: *To own an Apple product is to ALREADY be exploited*, JR. <https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-canada-software-hacking-dc3eeb
af4a4879e8ad714ce03f89e9d9>
Apple's not going to advertise they have twice to three times as many zero-day holes as Android has, silly.
It's not in Apple's DNA to tell the truth. (Witness the recent half a
billion dollar settlement just this week for Tim Cook's recent lies.)
There are very many zero-click exploits in both macOS & iOS, JR.
Most of them are in Apple's shitty kernel & many in the even worse webkit. <https://techwireasia.com/09/2023/what-does-the-security-alert-on-apple-softwa
re-zero-click-spyware-mean/>
In fact, just the known exploits of iOS are ten times that of Android. https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
There have been *plenty* of zero-day zero-click no-interaction holes
in Apple's operating systems
There have been plenty of zero days in *all* operating systems
Idiot. These are Apple newsgroups, Jolly Roger. <https://www.popsci.com/technology/zero-click-hacks-explained/>
You're like nospam was, Jolly Roger, before his contract with Apple expired (his job was to contradict EVERY SINGLE FACT about Apple products).
Not only does iOS have ten times more exploits than Android, but iOS and macOS also have more zero-click exploits (& getting worse every year).
For you to claim (as you did) that only Apple doesn't have zero-click exploits shows how much of a fanatical nut case you are, since nobody who isn't a fool would claim like you did above that Apple doesn't have them, particularly in the crappy webkit and crappy kernel (which is where most of them are). <https://citizenlab.ca/2023/09/blastpass-nso-group-iphone-zero-click-zero-day-
exploit-captured-in-the-wild/>
Apple doesn't even know how to write a kernel, for heaven's sake. https://www.darkreading.com/ics-ot-security/patch-now-apple-zero-day-exploits-
bypass-kernel-security
The messaging system of Apple also has many of the zero-click exploits. https://threatpost.com/pegasus-spyware-uses-iphone-zero-click-imessage-zero-da
y/168899/
But most zero clicks are in Apple's shitty kernel and crappy webkit code. <https://www.darkreading.com/ics-ot-security/patch-now-apple-zero-day-exploits
-bypass-kernel-security>
On Mar 18, 2024, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <l5puflFges3U1@mid.individual.net>):
On 2024-03-17, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-03-17, Sten deJoode<StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:
On 16 Mar 2024 15:35:32 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
To be successfully attacked by malware, a Mac user must
interactively download the malware to their computer
That's dead wrong.
Nope, it's correct.
No Jolly Roger. You're dead wrong.
Nope, I'm right.
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple devices?
Nope. Anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days.
he’s been told that before. he ignores it. he’s an idiot.
And there's no
such thing as antivirus software on Apple mobile devices anyway.
he’s been told that before, too. Either his one poor alcohol-addled neuron fails to recall or he just ignores it. he’s an idiot.
The only reason you are trying to single Apple out is to troll.
If you choose NOT to do employ anti-malware software, how do you avoid
"interactively downloading malware to your computer" if you do not
recognise it as such? It may be well obfuscated and/or trick you.
You clearly didn't read or understand the safe computing practices I
already outlined. Go back and read it again - slowly if needed.
he lacks the cognative capability to understand much beyonf tying his shoelaces.
Also, fuck off, troll.
he’ll just get a new nym.
On 18/03/2024 11:22, WolfFan wrote:
On Mar 18, 2024, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <l5puflFges3U1@mid.individual.net>):
On 2024-03-17, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple
devices?
Nope. Anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days.
he’s been told that before. he ignores it. he’s an idiot.
And there's no such thing as antivirus software on Apple mobile
devices anyway.
he’s been told that before, too. Either his one poor alcohol-addled
neuron fails to recall or he just ignores it. he’s an idiot.
See MID <l5pbvaFdsdbU1@mid.individual.net>
Jolly Roger said .... "*ALL* platforms have zero days." Look! ^^^^^^^
On 17 Mar 2024 23:16:58 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
No Jolly Roger. You're dead wrong.
Nope, I'm right.
you declared that there are no zero-click zero-days
On Mar 17, 2024, Sten deJoode wrote
(in article <ut7p0q$10ih8$1@paganini.bofh.team>):
blah blah blah
Ah. arlen’s got a new nym.
I said no such thing
On 2024-03-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 18/03/2024 11:22, WolfFan wrote:
On Mar 18, 2024, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <l5puflFges3U1@mid.individual.net>):
On 2024-03-17, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple
devices?
Nope. Anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days.
he’s been told that before. he ignores it. he’s an idiot.
And there's no such thing as antivirus software on Apple mobile
devices anyway.
he’s been told that before, too. Either his one poor alcohol-addled
neuron fails to recall or he just ignores it. he’s an idiot.
See MID <l5pbvaFdsdbU1@mid.individual.net>
Jolly Roger said .... "*ALL* platforms have zero days." Look! ^^^^^^^
Again, anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days. And there's no
such thing as antivirus apps on iOS, dumbass.
On 2024-03-18, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 18/03/2024 11:22, WolfFan wrote:
On Mar 18, 2024, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <l5puflFges3U1@mid.individual.net>):
On 2024-03-17, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple
devices?
Nope. Anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days.
he’s been told that before. he ignores it. he’s an idiot.
And there's no such thing as antivirus software on Apple mobile
devices anyway.
he’s been told that before, too. Either his one poor alcohol-addled neuron fails to recall or he just ignores it. he’s an idiot.
See MID <l5pbvaFdsdbU1@mid.individual.net>
Jolly Roger said .... "*ALL* platforms have zero days." Look! ^^^^^^^
Again, anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days. And there's no
such thing as antivirus apps on iOS, dumbass.
On 18 Mar 2024 15:33:45 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
I said no such thing
You said this, Jolly Roger...
On 2024-03-16, Sten deJoode <StendeJood@nospam.net> wrote:
On 15 Mar 2024 22:18:48 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
To be successfully attacked by malware, a Mac user must interactively
download the malware to their computer
That's dead wrong.
Nope, it's correct.
on iOS
On Mar 18, 2024, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <l5r52lFm4ctU1@mid.individual.net>):
On 2024-03-18, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 18/03/2024 11:22, WolfFan wrote:
On Mar 18, 2024, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <l5puflFges3U1@mid.individual.net>):
On 2024-03-17, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple
devices?
Nope. Anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days.
he’s been told that before. he ignores it. he’s an idiot.
And there's no such thing as antivirus software on Apple mobile
devices anyway.
he’s been told that before, too. Either his one poor alcohol-addled
neuron fails to recall or he just ignores it. he’s an idiot.
See MID <l5pbvaFdsdbU1@mid.individual.net>
Jolly Roger said .... "*ALL* platforms have zero days." Look! ^^^^^^^
Again, anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days. And there's no
such thing as antivirus apps on iOS, dumbass.
He’s so brain-damaged that he cannot read and comprehend simple sentences. I suspect that he has no idea what a zero-day is. Remember, this is the idiot who posted that he thought that x.x.x.x was a valid IPv4 address. He literally has no clue. It is impossible to exaggerate just how stupid he is; certainly my mother’s Scotty terrier is considerably smarter than he is. Even if she has been known to chase ducks bigger than she is. Like many small dogs, she thinks that she’s a wolf. Like many idiots, Our David thinks that he has a clue. They’re both wrong. It’s a lot cuter when it’s a terrier that’s wrong than when its a bald ape who, he says, was once a naval officer.
On 2024-03-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:<snip>
On 18/03/2024 11:22, WolfFan wrote:
On Mar 18, 2024, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <l5puflFges3U1@mid.individual.net>):
On 2024-03-17, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple
devices?
Nope. Anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days.
See MID <l5pbvaFdsdbU1@mid.individual.net>
Jolly Roger said .... "*ALL* platforms have zero days." Look! ^^^^^^^
Again, anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days. And there's no
such thing as antivirus apps on iOS.
Here are some more things for you to consider:- https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/deployment/dep323ab8aa3/web
Tell me why, then, this product is so successful:- www.clamxav.com
Have YOU ever tried it?
On Mar 19, 2024 at 6:00:55 AM EDT, "David Brooks"<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote AGAIN
Here are some more things for you to consider:- https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/deployment/dep323ab8aa3/web
Tell me why, then, this product is so successful:- www.clamxav.com
That does not run on iPhones, does it? Doofus.
Have YOU ever tried it?
When are YOU going to stop asking this stupid question? Doofus.
On 18/03/2024 19:11, WolfFan wrote:
On Mar 18, 2024, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <l5r52lFm4ctU1@mid.individual.net>):
On 2024-03-18, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 18/03/2024 11:22, WolfFan wrote:
On Mar 18, 2024, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <l5puflFges3U1@mid.individual.net>):
On 2024-03-17, David Brooks<BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 17/03/2024 23:16, Jolly Roger wrote:
FACT: All platforms have zero days.
Agreed. Hence the need to run anti-malware software on Apple devices?
Nope. Anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days.
he’s been told that before. he ignores it. he’s an idiot.
And there's no such thing as antivirus software on Apple mobile devices anyway.
he’s been told that before, too. Either his one poor alcohol-addled neuron fails to recall or he just ignores it. he’s an idiot.
See MID <l5pbvaFdsdbU1@mid.individual.net>
Jolly Roger said .... "*ALL* platforms have zero days." Look! ^^^^^^^
Again, anti-malware doesn't protect against zero days. And there's no such thing as antivirus apps on iOS, dumbass.
He’s so brain-damaged that he cannot read and comprehend simple sentences.
I suspect that he has no idea what a zero-day is. Remember, this is the idiot
who posted that he thought that x.x.x.x was a valid IPv4 address. He literally has no clue. It is impossible to exaggerate just how stupid he is;
certainly my mother’s Scotty terrier is considerably smarter than he is. Even if she has been known to chase ducks bigger than she is. Like many small
dogs, she thinks that she’s a wolf. Like many idiots, Our David thinks that
he has a clue. They’re both wrong. It’s a lot cuter when it’s a terrier
that’s wrong than when its a bald ape who, he says, was once a naval officer.
THIS item explains that an Apple computer /cannot/ be influenced by a
"zero day"!
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/security/secdc7c6c88e/web
There is obviously no need for anti-malware software on a modern Apple computer.
Why then, I wonder, is this product so successful? www.clamxav.com
Do tell!
a zero-day is, by definition, something new and unexpected.
It is perfectly
possible to block known attacks.
it is impossible to block unknown attacks,
as YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHERE THE ATTACK IS COMING FROM OR HOW IT WILL BE MADE, BECAUSE THE ATTACK IS *NEW* AND *FROM AN UNEXPECTED SOURCE*.
You are incapable of reading for comprehension.
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