• Re: iOS 16.4.1(a) rapid security response

    From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to ecphoric@allspamis.invalid on Wed May 3 01:20:15 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process. Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important.

    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was the
    restart now option (I think).

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 12:22:22 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important.

    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was the restart now option (I think).




    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update.
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR
    exercise in incompetence-covering.
    Maybe we'll soon see a 16.4.1(a.1)

    (:-

    Ed

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Chris on Wed May 3 13:33:08 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important. >>>>
    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was the
    restart now option (I think).




    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update.
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR
    exercise in incompetence-covering.
    Maybe we'll soon see a 16.4.1(a.1)

    Nah. It'll be 16.4.1(a.a)

    And will take 12 steps.

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed May 3 13:15:23 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important. >>>
    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was the
    restart now option (I think).




    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update.
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR exercise in incompetence-covering.
    Maybe we'll soon see a 16.4.1(a.1)

    Nah. It'll be 16.4.1(a.a)

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 16:21:22 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Am 03.05.23 um 15:33 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important. >>>>>
    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was the >>>> restart now option (I think).




    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update.
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR
    exercise in incompetence-covering.
    Maybe we'll soon see a 16.4.1(a.1)

    Nah. It'll be 16.4.1(a.a)

    And will take 12 steps.

    Brain dead Troll.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Wed May 3 14:39:07 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 03.05.23 um 15:33 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process. >>>>>> Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be important. >>>>>>
    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was the >>>>> restart now option (I think).




    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update.
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR >>>> exercise in incompetence-covering.
    Maybe we'll soon see a 16.4.1(a.1)

    Nah. It'll be 16.4.1(a.a)

    And will take 12 steps.

    Brain dead Troll.

    Whoosh!

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed May 3 16:54:25 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be
    important.

    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was
    the restart now option (I think).

    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update. I don't know
    whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR exercise in incompetence-covering.

    Your baseless claim is a patently obvious troll.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed May 3 20:07:34 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be
    important.

    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was
    the restart now option (I think).

    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update. I don't know
    whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR exercise in
    incompetence-covering.

    Your baseless claim is a patently obvious troll.


    Your bigoted, mean-spirited and infantile response is an offence to
    intelligent discussion.
    I suggest you go boil your head and see how it feels when the juices of
    blind prejudice have been drained.

    Ed

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  • From News@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed May 3 15:19:40 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 5/3/2023 3:07 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    And now for something completely different. It was a quick process.
    Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. Must be
    important.

    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was
    the restart now option (I think).

    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update.  I don't know
    whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR exercise in
    incompetence-covering.

    Your baseless claim is a patently obvious troll.


    Your bigoted, mean-spirited and infantile response is an offence to intelligent discussion.
    I suggest you go boil your head and see how it feels when the juices of
    blind prejudice have been drained.

    Ed


    ChatGPT response?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Wed May 3 19:46:28 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    And now for something completely different. It was a quick
    process. Downloaded without spending time on preparing update.
    Must be important.

    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was
    the restart now option (I think).

    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update. I don't know
    whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR exercise
    in incompetence-covering.

    Your baseless claim is a patently obvious troll.

    Your bigoted

    Nothing I said was bigoted. Crack open a dictionary, and stay in school.

    mean-spirited

    Nothing I said was mean-spirited, either.

    and infantile

    Strike three. You're out.

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    JR

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 4 08:22:37 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Am 03.05.23 um 16:39 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 03.05.23 um 15:33 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Nah. It'll be 16.4.1(a.a)

    And will take 12 steps.

    Brain dead Troll.

    Whoosh!

    *ROTFLSTC*

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu May 4 16:44:49 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    And now for something completely different. It was a quick
    process. Downloaded without spending time on preparing update.
    Must be important.

    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both was
    the restart now option (I think).

    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update. I don't know
    whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR exercise
    in incompetence-covering.

    Your baseless claim is a patently obvious troll.

    Your bigoted

    Nothing I said was bigoted. Crack open a dictionary, and stay in school.

    mean-spirited

    Nothing I said was mean-spirited, either.

    and infantile

    Strike three. You're out.


    Adverse criticism is not "trolling"; not to people with minds.
    For example, many app updates carry descriptions such as "performance improvements, better game experience and bugs cleared"; and it's not too difficult to read beyond the euphemistic phraseology to the reality.
    Among educated people that would promote discussion, not a sudden inrush
    of thought-police yelling "Not here, not here". In a forum where
    intelligence predominates over crudity, it would be welcomed.

    Ed

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu May 4 16:00:42 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-05-04, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    And now for something completely different. It was a quick
    process. Downloaded without spending time on preparing update.
    Must be important.

    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both
    was the restart now option (I think).

    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update. I don't
    know whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR
    exercise in incompetence-covering.

    Your baseless claim is a patently obvious troll.

    Your bigoted

    Nothing I said was bigoted. Crack open a dictionary, and stay in
    school.

    mean-spirited

    Nothing I said was mean-spirited, either.

    and infantile

    Strike three. You're out.

    Adverse criticism is not "trolling"

    Claiming a software update is supposedly "a PR exercise in incompetence-covering" without any evidence to back up that claim is
    classic weak trolling. You have yet to provide a shred of objectively verifiable evidence of that claim. And you won't, because it doesn't
    exist. Your trolls are as weak as ever.

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  • From RonTheGuy@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Thu May 4 17:57:51 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On May 04, 2023, Ed Cryer wrote
    (in article<news:u30juh$1sq71$1@dont-email.me>):

    Adverse criticism is not "trolling"; not to people with minds.

    Along that line of criticism and commendation, it took decades but Apple finally modified their release mechanism to be like all other computers. https://9to5mac.com/2022/01/21/heres-why-apple-should-provide-standalone-updates-for-native-ios-apps/

    As of iOS 16, Apple can now release patch updates just like Google has done
    for Android for about ten years and Microsoft did for Windows for as long.

    The criticism is it took Apple forever. The commendation is Apple finally changed their hotfix patch release mechanism as of iOS 16 and above. https://httptoolkit.com/blog/safari-is-killing-the-web/

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Fri May 5 09:46:19 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-04, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-05-03, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:

    And now for something completely different. It was a quick
    process. Downloaded without spending time on preparing update. >>>>>>>> Must be important.

    My iPad did the preparing update thing. The difference in both
    was the restart now option (I think).

    We're now on 16.4.1(a) after that new-fangled update. I don't
    know whether to laugh or cry. It's so patently obvious as a PR
    exercise in incompetence-covering.

    Your baseless claim is a patently obvious troll.

    Your bigoted

    Nothing I said was bigoted. Crack open a dictionary, and stay in
    school.

    mean-spirited

    Nothing I said was mean-spirited, either.

    and infantile

    Strike three. You're out.

    Adverse criticism is not "trolling"

    Claiming a software update is supposedly "a PR exercise in incompetence-covering" without any evidence to back up that claim is
    classic weak trolling. You have yet to provide a shred of objectively verifiable evidence of that claim. And you won't, because it doesn't
    exist. Your trolls are as weak as ever.


    I think you'd have got on quite well with Torquemada, Miserable Roger.
    Have you ever read The Grand Inquisitor chapter in Dostoevsky's The
    Brothers Karamazov?

    Ed

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 5 18:57:39 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Joerg Lorenz on Sat May 6 10:43:35 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-05-04 02:22, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 03.05.23 um 16:39 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
    Am 03.05.23 um 15:33 schrieb *Hemidactylus*:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    Nah. It'll be 16.4.1(a.a)

    And will take 12 steps.

    Brain dead Troll.

    Whoosh!

    *ROTFLSTC*

    He got the "Whoosh!" right.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Ed Cryer on Sat May 6 10:46:03 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-05-04 11:44, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Adverse criticism is not "trolling"; not to people with minds.

    What you wrote:
    "It's so patently obvious as a PR exercise in incompetence-covering."

    This is a declarative sentence. Not "adverse criticism".

    Mindless at that.


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    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat May 6 16:24:53 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-05-06, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-05-04 11:44, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Adverse criticism is not "trolling"; not to people with minds.

    What you wrote:
    "It's so patently obvious as a PR exercise in incompetence-covering."

    This is a declarative sentence. Not "adverse criticism".

    Mindless at that.

    He doesn't care if he looks like a fool. He's just here to score empty
    troll points. ; )

    --
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    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 6 18:53:18 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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  • From Ed Cryer@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 6 19:31:43 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

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