but a trimmed-down adaptation of the cI remember I started using Netscape when I have a acoustical modem with
On 11/04/2024 2:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:I still have a CD of Netscape (7.0 I think).
but a trimmed-down adaptation of the cI remember I started using Netscape when I have a acoustical modem with Very limited capacity. The
one particular update, I remember I went to my son-in-laws house and down loaded it through his ISP
which came into his house for his LAN. His system which was many times fasted the my modem.
I have stayed with Netscape and then Firefox/Thunderbird and I believe it is the best program out
there for browsing the internet, handling your email, and browsing the newsgroups. I was pleased
when they added the Scheduling/Calendar to Thunderbird. We use it exclusively to maintain our home
schedule to avoid conflicts. I believe the Thunderbird Scheduling/Calendar is under appreciated.
On 11/04/2024 2:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
but a trimmed-down adaptation of the cI remember I started using Netscape when I have a acoustical modem with
Very limited capacity. The one particular update, I remember I went to
my son-in-laws house and down loaded it through his ISP which came into
his house for his LAN. His system which was many times fasted the my modem.
I have stayed with Netscape and then Firefox/Thunderbird and I believe
it is the best program out there for browsing the internet, handling
your email, and browsing the newsgroups. I was pleased when they added
the Scheduling/Calendar to Thunderbird. We use it exclusively to
maintain our home schedule to avoid conflicts. I believe the
Thunderbird Scheduling/Calendar is under appreciated.
I still have a CD of Netscape (7.0 I think).
Mosaic Communications Corporation (later Netscape Communications) was
founded 30 years ago. They were brash enough to thumb their noses at Microsoft. And if you remember that time, Microsoft was indeed slow to appreciate the importance of the then-up-and-coming Internet. Bill
Gates famously put out a book called ???The Way Ahead???, talking about
how he saw the future of computing evolving, and he didn???t even
mention the Internet, except in a hastily-added postscript.
But once the changes in the marketplace became evident, the
supercarrier did manage to turn itself around. And Microsoft fought
back, by both fair means and foul, to keep Windows not only the
dominant desktop platform, but the dominant platform for consuming
Internet content.
One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was
to open-source the browser. That lives on today (after a fashion) as
the SeaMonkey browser, but a trimmed-down adaptation of the code,
jettisoning all the non-browser-related functionality, found new life
as Firefox.
<https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/how-netscape-lives-on-30-years-of-shaping-the-web-open-source-and-business/>
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 15:46:04 -0500, Alan K. wrote:S**t. I threw the dang thing away. That ticks me off. I was going to put it on the scanner.
I still have a CD of Netscape (7.0 I think).
This <https://archive.org/details/nscp7_0>, by any chance?
archive.org also has other versions available <https://archive.org/search?query=netscape+cd>.
On 11/04/2024 2:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
but a trimmed-down adaptation of the cI remember I started using Netscape when I have a acoustical modem with
Very limited capacity. The one particular update, I remember I went to
my son-in-laws house and down loaded it through his ISP which came into
his house for his LAN. His system which was many times fasted the my modem.
I have stayed with Netscape and then Firefox/Thunderbird and I believe
it is the best program out there for browsing the internet, handling
your email, and browsing the newsgroups. I was pleased when they added
the Scheduling/Calendar to Thunderbird. We use it exclusively to
maintain our home schedule to avoid conflicts. I believe the
Thunderbird Scheduling/Calendar is under appreciated.
I was cleaning about 3 months ago and tossed some really useless stuff
away, like cd's of clipart, but I should have kept that for sentimental reasons. Cardboard sleeve with the blue/green Netscape logo.
I still have a CD of Netscape (7.0 I think).
I still use SeaMonkey that was based on Netscape's design (Communicator)!
In alt.comp.software.firefox Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Mosaic Communications Corporation (later Netscape Communications) was
founded 30 years ago. They were brash enough to thumb their noses at
Microsoft. And if you remember that time, Microsoft was indeed slow to
appreciate the importance of the then-up-and-coming Internet. Bill
Gates famously put out a book called ???The Way Ahead???, talking about
how he saw the future of computing evolving, and he didn???t even
mention the Internet, except in a hastily-added postscript.
But once the changes in the marketplace became evident, the
supercarrier did manage to turn itself around. And Microsoft fought
back, by both fair means and foul, to keep Windows not only the
dominant desktop platform, but the dominant platform for consuming
Internet content.
One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was
to open-source the browser. That lives on today (after a fashion) as
the SeaMonkey browser, but a trimmed-down adaptation of the code,
jettisoning all the non-browser-related functionality, found new life
as Firefox.
<https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/how-netscape-lives-on-30-years-of-shaping-the-web-open-source-and-business/>
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/4/24 1:45 PM, sticks wrote:
On 11/4/2024 2:10 PM, knuttle wrote:
On 11/04/2024 2:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
but a trimmed-down adaptation of the cI remember I started using Netscape when I have a acoustical modem with >> >> Very limited capacity. The one particular update, I remember I went to >> >> my son-in-laws house and down loaded it through his ISP which came into >> >> his house for his LAN. His system which was many times fasted the my modem.
I have stayed with Netscape and then Firefox/Thunderbird and I believe
it is the best program out there for browsing the internet, handling
your email, and browsing the newsgroups. I was pleased when they added >> >> the Scheduling/Calendar to Thunderbird. We use it exclusively to
maintain our home schedule to avoid conflicts. I believe the
Thunderbird Scheduling/Calendar is under appreciated.
One of the things I really like about Firefox is the "Firefox Account".
The ability to get it all set up on a different computer by just syncing >> > into the account has made life easy many times. With the old people I
have to maintain systems on, I set them all up on one.
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was
to open-source the browser. That lives on today (after a fashion) as
the SeaMonkey browser, but a trimmed-down adaptation of the code,
jettisoning all the non-browser-related functionality, found new life
as Firefox.
On 11/4/2024 2:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was
to open-source the browser. That lives on today (after a fashion) as
the SeaMonkey browser, but a trimmed-down adaptation of the code,
jettisoning all the non-browser-related functionality, found new life
as Firefox.
For anyone who's interested, there's a good documentary about
the final days of Netscape. It's called Code Rush, available at both
youtube and archive.org.
This link should work to download it:
https://ia801809.us.archive.org/6/items/code-rush-2000/Code%20Rush%20%282000%29-Decombed.mp4
Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
On 11/4/2024 2:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was
to open-source the browser. That lives on today (after a fashion) as
the SeaMonkey browser, but a trimmed-down adaptation of the code,
jettisoning all the non-browser-related functionality, found new life
as Firefox.
For anyone who's interested, there's a good documentary about
the final days of Netscape. It's called Code Rush, available at both
youtube and archive.org.
This link should work to download it:
https://ia801809.us.archive.org/6/items/code-rush-2000/Code%20Rush%20%282000%29-Decombed.mp4
Oooh, thank you for linking that!
Here is youtube of it.https://ia801809.us.archive.org/6/items/code-rush-2000/Code%20Rush%20%282000%29-Decombed.mp4
Oooh, thank you for linking that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q7FTjhvZ7Y
I think, at least the first 20 seconds is identical
One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was
to open-source the browser.
On 11/4/24 14:35, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was to
open-source the browser.
THAT was a class act! I did something vaguely similar when I took out a provisional patent and then let it lapse for the express purpose of thus hard-wiring the idea into public domain to prevent anyone from ever
being able to take out a patent on the same idea.
Bill Gates famously put out a book called “The Way Ahead” ...
On Tue, 5 Nov 2024 14:32:21 -0500, bad sector wrote:
On 11/4/24 14:35, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct
was to open-source the browser.
THAT was a class act! I did something vaguely similar when I took
out a provisional patent and then let it lapse for the express
purpose of thus hard-wiring the idea into public domain to prevent
anyone from ever being able to take out a patent on the same idea.
Patents in the public interest ... now THAT I can applaud!
But then, simply publishing the idea would, in theory, count as
“prior art”, wouldn’t it? Though in practice it is very hard to get patents invalidated anyway, at least in the US system (also *cough*
East Texas *cough*).
On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 19:35:38 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:
Bill Gates famously put out a book called “The Way Ahead” ...
Ahem, actually “The Road Ahead”.
Obviously not worth reading, anyway. ;)
One of the things I really like about Firefox is the "Firefox Account".
The ability to get it all set up on a different computer by just syncing
into the account has made life easy many times. With the old people I
have to maintain systems on, I set them all up on one.
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
For some reason the nephew decides she needs to reinstall windows cause
she got phished. Not sure exactly what procedure he used, but he
effectively did a full install and erased everything she had on her
system. All pictures, documents, contacts...every damn thing.
On 11/5/2024 8:19 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
One of the things I really like about Firefox is the "Firefox Account".
The ability to get it all set up on a different computer by just syncing >>> into the account has made life easy many times. With the old people I
have to maintain systems on, I set them all up on one.
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I meant no disrespect, and should have said older than me (I ain't no
spring chicken). Couple days ago, my mom got silly and called the
number on an email from someone claiming to be from paypal saying they
were charging her account $500. My younger nephew was there at the
time. She figured out during the call it was a scam and hung up.
Delete the email and move on. No harm.
For some reason the nephew decides she needs to reinstall windows cause
she got phished. Not sure exactly what procedure he used, but he
effectively did a full install and erased everything she had on her
system. All pictures, documents, contacts...every damn thing. He never asked if she needed anything saved or backed up. Then, he got stuck in
an endless loop which would not allow it to finish the installation. He texts me for help, and I let him sweat it out. When he failed to figure
out how to move forward I told him to just leave it and I would take
care of it.
I was able to get it done and get everything installed again, and
Firefox was the only thing that was back as it should be because of
having the Firefox Account. Didn't lose any email since I had her on
IMAP, but he toasted all her contacts.
I imaged it all before giving it back to her and hope she learned a
lesson or two.
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9
for linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
On 11/05/2024 9:48 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 05.11.24 21:43, sticks wrote:I don't use the cloud, but have two computers and an external drive.
On 11/5/2024 8:19 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
One of the things I really like about Firefox is the "Firefox Account". >>>>> The ability to get it all set up on a different computer by just syncing >>>>> into the account has made life easy many times. With the old people I >>>>> have to maintain systems on, I set them all up on one.
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for >>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I meant no disrespect, and should have said older than me (I ain't no
spring chicken). Couple days ago, my mom got silly and called the
number on an email from someone claiming to be from paypal saying they
were charging her account $500. My younger nephew was there at the
time. She figured out during the call it was a scam and hung up.
Delete the email and move on. No harm.
For some reason the nephew decides she needs to reinstall windows cause
she got phished. Not sure exactly what procedure he used, but he
effectively did a full install and erased everything she hi DONad on her >>> system. All pictures, documents, contacts...every damn thing. He never >>> asked if she needed anything saved or backed up. Then, he got stuck in
an endless loop which would not allow it to finish the installation. He >>> texts me for help, and I let him sweat it out. When he failed to figure >>> out how to move forward I told him to just leave it and I would take
care of it.
I was able to get it done and get everything installed again, and
Firefox was the only thing that was back as it should be because of
having the Firefox Account. Didn't lose any email since I had her on
IMAP, but he toasted all her contacts.
My goodness! Use a Mac with iCloud.
I imaged it all before giving it back to her and hope she learned a
lesson or two.
Obviously not yet.
The computers are synced so they have the same files, and the Desktop is backed up to the external drive. While in some people eyes this is not
a backup as all are in the same house, but it is a back up as a file can
not be deleted or accidentally saved by mouse dribble.
The computers are synced so they have the same files, and the Desktop is backed up to the external drive. While in some people eyes this is not
a backup as all are in the same house, but it is a back up as a file can
not be deleted or accidentally saved by mouse dribble.
On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 06:56:02 -0500, knuttle wrote:I use Syncback free, to do my syncs. When it finds differences it gives
The computers are synced so they have the same files, and the Desktop is
backed up to the external drive. While in some people eyes this is not
a backup as all are in the same house, but it is a back up as a file can
not be deleted or accidentally saved by mouse dribble.
But the syncing will delete the file on the backup as well, the next time
it runs.
To guard against this, you need to maintain multiple generations of
backup, say, going back 7 days.
On 11/06/2024 1:54 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
To guard against this, you need to maintain multiple generations of
backup, say, going back 7 days.
I use Syncback free, to do my syncs. When it finds differences it gives
the user a list of files that are different and the user decides what
files to copy where.
In comp.misc The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9
for linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I used Mosaic quite a lot in the very early days. Of course it was
being used on an X terminal (yes, real X terminal) connected to a Sun
Sparc Station 20 in another building at work.
IIRC it was Mosaic that I used to pull up photos of Comet
Shoemaker-Levy 9's impact with Jupiter in 1994 on that same X terminal
a mere few hours after the impact occurred.
On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
And pine and tin.
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
old school!
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
old school!
Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for >>>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for >> > >> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
On 11/7/2024 3:03 AM, Chris Green wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for >>>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
I feel so old-fashioned. Am I the only one still using an abacus?
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
I use slrn.
On 11/6/24 6:08 PM, Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
In comp.misc The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9
for linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I used Mosaic quite a lot in the very early days. Of course it was
being used on an X terminal (yes, real X terminal) connected to a Sun
Sparc Station 20 in another building at work.
Maybe 1993. Some people wanted to develop a website for the company I
worked for, and I was asked to evaluate their presentation. They
brought their apple computer into the conference room and ran a demo.
Lovely. I asked for a separate phone line and installed Mosaic so I
could test it out in real time on real equipment. Abysmal failure.
Took forever to load and the graphics were sadly lacking on ordinary monitors. Life used to be SOOOO much easier!
In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though. >> >> > And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
I use slrn.
I couldn't get into slrn. :/
In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for >>>>>>> linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though. >>>>> And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn
old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
I use slrn.
I couldn't get into slrn. :/
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 21:03 this Thursday (GMT):
In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using
Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though. >>> >> > And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx
earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn >>> >> old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
I use slrn.
I couldn't get into slrn. :/
Honestly, I just prefer how it displays threads visually ^^ The
scripting language for it is painful to learn, but it does work fine
once you do.
Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote at 22:38 this Thursday (GMT):
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
writes:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 21:03 this Thursday (GMT):
In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with >>>>> > mutt to view HTML E-mail.
On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using
Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though.
And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx >>>>> >> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn >>>>> >> old school!
I use slrn.
I couldn't get into slrn. :/
Honestly, I just prefer how it displays threads visually ^^ The
scripting language for it is painful to learn, but it does work fine
once you do.
I've used slrn for a while. I also liked it how it displayed threads
visually, but also never got into the scripting language---I guess I
never needed either.
I just used it to hack in xface functionality :D
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
writes:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 21:03 this Thursday (GMT):
In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> > On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using
Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though. >>>> >> > And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx >>>> >> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn >>>> >> old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
I use slrn.
I couldn't get into slrn. :/
Honestly, I just prefer how it displays threads visually ^^ The
scripting language for it is painful to learn, but it does work fine
once you do.
I've used slrn for a while. I also liked it how it displayed threads visually, but also never got into the scripting language---I guess I
never needed either.
I feel so old-fashioned. Am I the only one still using an abacus?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>wrote:
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though. >>>>> And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx >>>> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn >>>> old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
I use slrn.
I couldn't get into slrn. :/
I use alpine, although I hacked it a bit, to allow offline news reading
and not online only as the default alpine does.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>wrote:
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though. >>>>>>> And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx >>>>>> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn >>>>>> old school!
mutt to view HTML E-mail.
I use slrn.
I couldn't get into slrn. :/
I use alpine, although I hacked it a bit, to allow offline news reading
and not online only as the default alpine does.
I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
perfectly for some other reason.
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Chris Green wrote:
I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
perfectly for some other reason.
Yes, leafnode is part of my "hack". Very good piece of software and
does its job very well! =) I fear that it will eventually fade away
and stop compiling on modern linux systems. =(
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Chris Green wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024, Ant wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>wrote:
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote at 08:03 this Thursday (GMT):
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.software.firefox The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/24 7:21 PM, Sn!pe wrote:Yes, I'm still using tin too, and I also use mutt. I use lynx with >>>>>> mutt to view HTML E-mail.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
Heh. I am one of those old people and I started using Netscape .9 for
linux. I even used Mosaic a few times!
I predate Netscape, my first browser was Cello:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cello_(web_browser)>
I THINK I heard of that, but it's pretty dim. I did use lynx, though. >>>>>>>> And pine and tin.
I'm still using tin. I also used pine, but went to mutt. I used Lynx >>>>>>> earlier today on a web site that had its annoying paywall. Yeah, I'mn >>>>>>> old school!
I use slrn.
I couldn't get into slrn. :/
I use alpine, although I hacked it a bit, to allow offline news reading
and not online only as the default alpine does.
I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
perfectly for some other reason.
Yes, leafnode is part of my "hack". Very good piece of software and does
its job very well! =) I fear that it will eventually fade away and stop compiling on modern linux systems. =(
D <nospam@example.net> writes:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Chris Green wrote:
[...]
I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you
never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
perfectly for some other reason.
Yes, leafnode is part of my "hack". Very good piece of software and
does its job very well! =) I fear that it will eventually fade away
and stop compiling on modern linux systems. =(
You'll adjust it as necessary---how's your C programming? :P
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Wolfgang Agnes wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> writes:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024, Chris Green wrote:
[...]
I have leafnode on my system (that I use with tin), so it's
effectively offline. Leafnode is a doddle to install and it means you >>>> never have to notice when news-servers are slow or not working
perfectly for some other reason.
Yes, leafnode is part of my "hack". Very good piece of software and
does its job very well! =) I fear that it will eventually fade away
and stop compiling on modern linux systems. =(
You'll adjust it as necessary---how's your C programming? :P
True. I can do simple C-stuff, and I can tinker around even, until I
get stuff to compile. But as soon as it gets above beginner level,
things get murky.
Fortunately Eduardom, the current maintainer, is very approachable and
even answers here in the news group. So on more than one occasion he
has helped me with a patch and advice. That in itself, is worth its
weight in gold!
I still use SeaMonkey that was based on Netscape's design (Communicator)!
In alt.comp.software.firefox Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Mosaic Communications Corporation (later Netscape Communications) was
founded 30 years ago. They were brash enough to thumb their noses at
Microsoft. And if you remember that time, Microsoft was indeed slow to
appreciate the importance of the then-up-and-coming Internet. Bill
Gates famously put out a book called ???The Way Ahead???, talking about
how he saw the future of computing evolving, and he didn???t even
mention the Internet, except in a hastily-added postscript.
But once the changes in the marketplace became evident, the
supercarrier did manage to turn itself around. And Microsoft fought
back, by both fair means and foul, to keep Windows not only the
dominant desktop platform, but the dominant platform for consuming
Internet content.
One important thing Netscape did before going completely defunct was
to open-source the browser. That lives on today (after a fashion) as
the SeaMonkey browser, but a trimmed-down adaptation of the code,
jettisoning all the non-browser-related functionality, found new life
as Firefox.
<https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/how-netscape-lives-on-30-years-of-shaping-the-web-open-source-and-business/>
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