• After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive

    From NefeshBarYochai@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 10 16:24:10 2024
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    By Qassam Muaddi October 9, 2024


    A year ago, Palestinians began to experience new levels of their
    ongoing catastrophe, the Nakba, which started 76 years ago. In
    response to the attack that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and caused a
    major embarrassment to the Israeli army and intelligence, Israel
    unleashed an extermination campaign on Gaza, leveling entire
    residential blocks, destroying education and health institutions,
    eliminating the basic infrastructure needed to sustain a society, and
    burying entire families under the rubble. In the West Bank, Israeli
    settlers set out to forcibly expel Palestinian rural communities and
    steal the lands of Palestinian towns and villages. The Israeli army
    ramped up its spree of raids on refugee camps, destroying their
    infrastructure, and systematically forcing inhabitants to live in a
    situation similar to the one lived in Gaza.

    I have lived in Palestine almost all my life. The Nakba has always
    been part of my consciousness. Its continuity has been my reality.
    However, there are particular dimensions to the experience of living
    the Nakba that I had never known, except in the memories of those who
    lived in its early years. My father, who grew up in the 1950s and
    1960s, always struggles to contain his tears when he describes the
    refugee families, expelled from West Jerusalem, Lydd, Ramleh, and
    their surrounding villages, and how they were still sleeping in
    stables and caves in our hometown in the late 1950s because all the
    houses were taken. He would describe how they had lost all their
    possessions and were forced into underpaid labor in the fields to
    sustain themselves, how some of their children had bare floors for
    beds, and how they had gradually started to become part of the town’s
    social fabric. Some of them, with peasant origins, took their sick
    children to the church in our Christian town and, despite being
    Muslims, had them baptized out of simple religiosity, imploring the
    Virgin, the saints, and the prophet Muhammad to heal them because they
    couldn’t afford medical care.

    The fresh face of the Nakba

    When he was 17, my father and his friends were guarding the town’s
    entrance with sticks during the 1967 war. A Jordanian officer stopped
    to ask for a cup of water from his car on his way out of the town and
    told them: “Go home boys, the country is lost.” Every time he tells
    this story, my father shakes as he weeps. His voice trembles and his
    eyes take a devastating look of deep sorrow, as if he had just
    witnessed his entire world crumble before his eyes. He had grown up
    listening to refugees telling the terrifying stories of Zionist
    massacres in Qibya, Deir Yassin, and Dawaymeh, and watched them live
    through the humiliation and misery of being homeless, gradually losing
    every hope of going back to their homes. My father and his entire
    generation felt, during the Arab defeat of 1967, that their turn had
    come and that their entire world, their memories, their traditions,
    their life in their town, their future dreams, all crumbled before
    their eyes. That aspect of experiencing the Nakba first-hand is
    something I didn’t know until last year.

    On October 12, 2023, I decided not to work from home, despite the
    Israeli checkpoints and settlers blocking or threatening roads all
    around us. I stayed in Ramallah until late in the night, refusing to
    give up the slight piece of “normality” I had in my everyday life. But
    the roads were completely closed after settlers attacked Palestinian
    cars, and I was forced to stay that night away from home. Then, at
    around midnight, in a popular cafe in Ramallah, the fresh face of the
    renewed Nakba, which Palestinians in Gaza were already reliving,
    looked at me through my phone screen. A friend sent me video footage
    of my town’s streets, a few minutes prior, where tractors loaded with mattresses and furniture were rolling down the road. Israeli settlers
    had just expelled 40 Palestinian Bedouin families from their community
    in Wadi Siq, 10 minutes away from our town. They had lost their
    grazing lands, their homes, and part of their livestock, and were
    looking for an empty lot of land to stay the night.

    As I watched, terrified, I received another message from a colleague
    who thought I was at home, telling me not to go out because settlers
    had shot at a Palestinian car two hours earlier on the road to
    Ramallah, the same road I take every day just 10 minutes away from
    town in the opposite direction. A Palestinian family from the
    neighboring town was in the car returning from a family dinner. The
    mother was wounded, and her 17-year-old son, whom I had known as a
    child, was killed.

    I could hear the voice of that officer whispering in my ear from 56
    years away: “Go home, boy, the country is lost.”

    My voice trembled, and my eyes were suddenly taken by a deep,
    devastating sorrow, as I could picture my entire world crumbling. My
    tears blurred my phone screen.

    Denial of humanity

    Three days earlier, on October 9, Israel’s war minister, Yoav Gallant, announced to the entire world what his state was going to do to the
    people of Gaza. “We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza; there will
    be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel,” Gallant said, and then concluded with one of the most honest expressions by an Israeli leader
    ever: “We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly.”

    Gallant didn’t say that his siege targeted only Hamas, nor did it. The
    siege he announced and that his army continues to impose includes two
    million Palestinians, half of whom are children. Israel had just told
    the entire world, unchecked, that it sees all Palestinians in Gaza as
    less than humans, closer to animals. And since there is no essential,
    intrinsic difference between any Palestinian in Gaza and any
    Palestinian anywhere else, that declaration includes all of us,
    Palestinians; the 14 million of us around the world. The ‘radicals’
    among us and the ‘moderate’. The political and less political ones.
    The young and the old, men and women, Christians and Muslims, and even
    those who collaborate with Israel. It is an entire nation that was
    excluded from the human race, officially, by a key minister of a state
    who is a key ally of the world’s only superpower.

    What followed was the wiping out of the entire material components of
    Gaza’s civilization, and the physical elimination of 2 to 3 percent of
    its population by Israel. The siege that Gallant announced provoked
    the spread of starvation and disease in the Gaza Strip. But this
    racist, criminal logic has been doubled down by the leaders of the
    majority of Western countries. As the U.S. president and his secretary
    of state continue to insist that they are trying their best to reach a ceasefire, the U.S. administration continues to provide arms and
    political support to Israel. According to a recent report by Brown
    University’s ‘Costs of War’ project, the U.S. has provided 17.9
    billion dollars worth of military assistance to Israel since October
    7, more than in any year since the U.S. began to grant military
    assistance to Israel. It has also been the year in which Israel has
    killed more Palestinians than in any other year since Israel’s
    foundation.

    Palestine at the heart of a new world

    With every school bombed, with every hospital destroyed, with every
    family expelled from its home, the leaders of the Western world,
    especially the U.S., have been telling us straight in the face that we
    are human animals. That our lives aren’t worth anything. That our
    existence is undesired. However, this has also been a year of
    Palestinian steadfastness, and of global solidarity with our people.
    After a year of genocide, 18 years of blockade on Gaza, 56 years of
    occupation, and 76 years of Nakba and ethnic cleansing, Gaza is not
    dead. Its social cohesion still stands. The resolve of its people to
    start life from scratch has proven time and time again, after every
    Israeli withdrawal from any destroyed neighborhood, to be unbroken. In
    the West Bank, in Jerusalem, and everywhere else on our land,
    Palestinians continue to live and recreate life every single day,
    without having submitted. It has been a year of resilience and
    perseverance. Something that only humans, on the highest levels of
    humanity, can do.

    “The country is ours,” my father and his friends replied to that
    defeated officer in 1967. “We won’t leave.”

    57 years later, as I watched the Nakba renewed on my phone screen and
    the voice of that officer whispered in my ear, my father’s young voice
    sounded in my other ear: “We won’t leave.”

    That voice, also coming from the rubble of Gaza and its tent camps has
    grown over the past year. It has been amplified by the millions of
    citizens in the streets of all major cities around the world against
    the deafening silence of their governments. They are all replying to
    all those who continue to deny our humanity.

    We won’t leave our land, and we won’t leave history because neither
    history nor geography would make any sense without us.

    We, the “human animals,” gave the world Christianity and with it, the
    values of compassion, justice, and human fraternity upon which all
    modern humanist philosophies were built. We are part of the Arab and
    Muslim civilizations that gave humanity mathematics, chemistry, and
    modern medicine. We, the “human animals” gave the Western imagination
    the names of Jerusalem, Bethlehem, and Nazareth, and continue to give
    these names, through our resilience, the life that makes them more
    than mere names in the Western imagination.

    We gave the world most of the traditions that mark most of your
    holidays, and continue to preserve the origins of these traditions in
    our everyday culture. We, the “human animals” gave the Arab world its
    first feminist movement, its first female radio anchor, its first
    female photographer, and its first women-led rally, and gave Arab and
    world literature Mai Zyadeh, Mahmoud Darwish, Samira Azzam, Hussein
    Barghouthi, Ghassan Kanafani, and Edward Said.

    And as the powerful of this world continue to try to erase our
    existence, they continue to destroy the foundations of the corrupted,
    inhumane world system that they built, excluding us. And before the
    new world, more humane and just, is fully born, with Palestine at its
    heart, they will see their world crumble before their eyes until
    nothing will be left of it to be sorry for. After all, what is any
    world worth without Palestine?

    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/10/after-a-year-of-extermination-palestine-is-still-alive/


    These good Palestinian men, wome, and children have earned the right
    to label themselves as 'Holocaust Survivors' and demand reparations
    from the Zio-nazis.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Thu Oct 10 15:38:07 2024
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    On 10/10/24 13:24, NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    By Qassam Muaddi October 9, 2024

    A year ago, Palestinians began to experience new levels of their
    ongoing catastrophe, the Nakba, which started 76 years ago. In
    response to the attack that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and caused a
    major embarrassment to the Israeli army and intelligence, Israel
    unleashed an extermination campaign on Gaza, leveling entire
    residential blocks, destroying education and health institutions,
    eliminating the basic infrastructure needed to sustain a society, and
    burying entire families under the rubble.

    Hey Qassam, do you agree it was a crime to not accept in 2000?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit#:~:text=The%20proposal%20demanded%20any%20territory,narrow%20strip%20of%20Israeli%20land.

    "Clinton's initiative led to the Taba negotiations in January 2001,
    where the two sides published a statement saying they had never been
    closer to agreement

    Clinton blamed Arafat after the failure of the talks, stating, "I regret
    that in 2000 Arafat missed the opportunity to bring that nation into
    being and pray for the day when the dreams of the Palestinian people for
    a state and a better life will be realized in a just and lasting peace."
    The failure to come to an agreement was widely attributed to Yasser
    Arafat, as he walked away from the table without making a concrete counter-offer and because Arafat did little to quell the series of
    Palestinian riots that began shortly after the summit.[56][57][58]
    Arafat was also accused of scuttling the talks by Nabil Amr, a former
    minister in the Palestinian Authority.[59] In My Life, Clinton wrote
    that Arafat once complimented Clinton by telling him, "You are a great
    man." Clinton responded, "I am not a great man. I am a failure, and you
    made me one."[60]

    Ross also quoted Saudi Prince Bandar as saying while negotiations were
    taking place: "If Arafat does not accept what is available now, it won't
    be a tragedy; it will be a crime."[62]

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Thu Oct 10 15:21:52 2024
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    On 10/10/24 13:24, NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    By Qassam Muaddi October 9, 2024
    A year ago, Palestinians began to experience new levels of their
    ongoing catastrophe, the Nakba, which started 76 years ago. In
    response to the attack that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and caused a
    major embarrassment to the Israeli army and intelligence, Israel
    unleashed an extermination campaign on Gaza, leveling entire
    residential blocks, destroying education and health institutions,
    eliminating the basic infrastructure needed to sustain a society, and
    burying entire families under the rubble.

    Quite stupid of the Palestinians to refuse the offer of their own
    country in 1947.
    Even stupider, refusing the offer arranged by POTUS Clinton in 2000.

    And now, to top all stupidity, start a war by massacring over 1,200
    and kidnapping over 200 in Oct. 2023 on an important Jewish Holiday.
    Lay down your weapons and release the hostages.

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  • From NefeshBarYochai@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Thu Oct 10 21:05:04 2024
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    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:21:52 -0700, a425couple
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/10/24 13:24, NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    By Qassam Muaddi October 9, 2024
    A year ago, Palestinians began to experience new levels of their
    ongoing catastrophe, the Nakba, which started 76 years ago. In
    response to the attack that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and caused a
    major embarrassment to the Israeli army and intelligence, Israel
    unleashed an extermination campaign on Gaza, leveling entire
    residential blocks, destroying education and health institutions,
    eliminating the basic infrastructure needed to sustain a society, and
    burying entire families under the rubble.

    Quite stupid of the Palestinians to refuse the offer of their own
    country in 1947.

    The offer they refused was to give up half of the land they had lived
    on for centuries, to Europeans and Americans who had no right to this
    place. To sign that away to intruders would have been treason.


    Even stupider, refusing the offer arranged by POTUS Clinton in 2000.

    Same reason as just explained above



    And now, to top all stupidity, start a war by massacring over 1,200
    and kidnapping over 200 in Oct. 2023 on an important Jewish Holiday.
    Lay down your weapons and release the hostages.

    The Zionist didn't like it when those they've imprisoned with an
    embargo and a brutal occupation force strike back. True to form, the
    Zio-nazis retaliated as the original Nazis did to Warsaw in August
    1944.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Fri Oct 11 09:19:28 2024
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    On 10/10/24 18:05, NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:21:52 -0700, a425couple
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/10/24 13:24, NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    By Qassam Muaddi October 9, 2024
    A year ago, Palestinians began to experience new levels of their
    ongoing catastrophe, the Nakba, which started 76 years ago. In
    response to the attack that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and caused a
    major embarrassment to the Israeli army and intelligence, Israel
    unleashed an extermination campaign on Gaza, leveling entire
    residential blocks, destroying education and health institutions,
    eliminating the basic infrastructure needed to sustain a society, and
    burying entire families under the rubble.

    Quite stupid of the Palestinians to refuse the offer of their own
    country in 1947.

    The offer they refused was to give up half of the land they had lived
    on for centuries, to Europeans and Americans who had no right to this
    place. To sign that away to intruders would have been treason.

    Jewish people had also lived there for thousands of years.
    But the Moslems always insisted that they had to be in charge.
    Surprise - the Palestinians mad too many serious mistakes
    to be left in charge of the whole area.
    Split it in half and let them each be in charge of their area.
    But fool Palestinians refused to do any compromise.

    Seventy six years later, how is that working out for you?

    It comes down to a pretty simple question.

    Do you trust the knowledge, judgement, and decision making of
    leaders like Winston Churchill and Harry Truman (or more recently
    on a rare topic that both Don Trump and Joe Biden agree on),
    joined by a super majority of the United Nations,

    I will go with our leaders who have done the best they knew
    how, to shape the world to be better than they found it.

    -----------

    Both groups, Jews and Palestinians had populations there.
    But it was a thinly populated area. Terraces that had been
    productive when Jews had the majority, but lost to military
    conquest to Muhammad lay mostly neglected.
    As many said, "A people without a land, for a land without a people."

    But the Palestinians continued to make bad choices.
    They picked the wrong side in WWI.
    They picked the wrong side in WWII.
    They refused to compromise, and refused the UN offer in 1947.
    They chose to fight, and even with 5 organized Arab Armies against
    the Jewish militia and, surprising all, lost in 1948-49.
    They made the bad choice to start a war in 1956.
    They made the bad choice to start a was in 1967, and lost much land.
    They made the bad choice to start a war in 1973.
    They made the bad choice to start a war in 1982.
    They made the bad choice to start a war in 2006.
    They made the bad choice to refuse what POTUS Carter negotiated.
    They made the bad choice to refuse what POTUS Clinton negotiated.
    ----------

    Yes, the Palestinians do deserve a right to a homeland.
    They were offered one, just as the Jews were offered one
    when the UK gave up it's UN mandate.
    The Jews accepted what was offered, even tho it was far
    from ideal. They created Israel, and have flourished
    and they made the desert bloom.
    The Palestinians refused to share, and decided to kill
    the Jews rather than share. Surprise! Even with the
    Armies of five nations helping the Palestinians,
    they failed.

    And have been consumed by hatred, and refusal to share
    for the last 75 years. Every time the Palestinians
    are offered a chance to have their own state and
    live in peace, they refuse.

    Please read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "Partition of Palestine" redirects here. For the partition of Palestine
    into Israel, the Gaza Strip, and the West Bank, see 1949 Armistice
    Agreements.
    UN General Assembly
    Resolution 181 (II)

    UNSCOP (3 September 1947; see green line) and UN Ad Hoc Committee (25
    November 1947) partition plans. The UN Ad Hoc Committee proposal was
    voted on in the resolution.
    Date 29 November 1947
    Meeting no. 128
    Code A/RES/181(II) (Document)
    Voting summary
    33 voted for
    13 voted against
    10 abstained
    Result Adopted
    The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a proposal by the
    United Nations, which recommended a partition of Mandatory Palestine at
    the end of the British Mandate. On 29 November 1947, the UN General
    Assembly adopted the Plan as Resolution 181 (II).[1]

    The resolution recommended the creation of independent Arab and Jewish
    States and a Special International Regime for the city of Jerusalem. The Partition Plan, a four-part document attached to the resolution,
    provided for the termination of the Mandate, the progressive withdrawal
    of British armed forces and the delineation of boundaries between the
    two States and Jerusalem. Part I of the Plan stipulated that the Mandate
    would be terminated as soon as possible and the United Kingdom would
    withdraw no later than 1 August 1948. The new states would come into
    existence two months after the withdrawal, but no later than 1 October
    1948. The Plan sought to address the conflicting objectives and claims
    of two competing movements, Palestinian nationalism and Jewish
    nationalism, or Zionism.[2][3] The Plan also called for Economic Union
    between the proposed states, and for the protection of religious and
    minority rights.[4] While Jewish organizations collaborated with UNSCOP
    during the deliberations, the Palestinian Arab leadership boycotted it.[5]

    The proposed plan is considered to have been pro-Zionist by its
    detractors, with 62% of the land allocated to the Jewish state despite
    the Palestinian Arab population numbering twice the Jewish
    population.[6] Consequently, the partition plan was accepted by Jewish
    Agency for Palestine and most Zionist factions who viewed it as a
    stepping stone to territorial expansion at an opportune time.[7][5] The
    Arab Higher Committee, the Arab League and other Arab leaders and
    governments rejected it on the basis that in addition to the Arabs
    forming a two-thirds majority, they owned a majority of the lands.[8][9]
    They also indicated an unwillingness to accept any form of territorial division,[10] arguing that it violated the principles of national self-determination in the UN Charter which granted people the right to
    decide their own destiny.[5][11] They announced their intention to take
    all necessary measures to prevent the implementation of the resolution.[12][13][14][15] Subsequently a civil war broke out in
    Palestine[16] and the plan was not implemented.[17]

    Background
    The British administration was formalized by the League of Nations under
    the Palestine Mandate in 1923, as part of the Partitioning of the
    Ottoman Empire following World War I. The Mandate reaffirmed the 1917
    British commitment to the Balfour Declaration, for the establishment in Palestine of a "National Home" for the Jewish people, with the
    prerogative to carry it out.[18][19] A British census of 1918 estimated
    700,000 Arabs and 56,000 Jews.[18]

    In 1937, following a six-month-long Arab General Strike and armed
    insurrection which aimed to pursue national independence and secure the
    country from foreign control, the British established the Peel
    Commission.[20] The Commission concluded that the Mandate had become unworkable, and recommended Partition into an Arab state linked to
    Transjordan; a small Jewish state; and a mandatory zone. To address
    problems arising from the presence of national minorities in each area,
    it suggested a land and population transfer[21] involving the transfer
    of some 225,000 Arabs living in the envisaged Jewish state and 1,250
    Jews living in a future Arab state, a measure deemed compulsory "in the
    last resort".[21][22][23] To address any economic problems, the Plan
    proposed avoiding interfering with Jewish immigration, since any
    interference would be liable to produce an "economic crisis", most of Palestine's wealth coming from the Jewish community. To solve the
    predicted annual budget deficit of the Arab State and reduction in
    public services due to loss of tax from the Jewish state, it was
    proposed that the Jewish state pay an annual subsidy to the Arab state
    and take on half of the latter's deficit.[21][22][24] The Palestinian
    Arab leadership rejected partition as unacceptable, given the inequality
    in the proposed population exchange and the transfer of one-third of
    Palestine, including most of its best agricultural land, to recent immigrants.[23] The Jewish leaders, Chaim Weizmann and David Ben-Gurion, persuaded the Zionist Congress to lend provisional approval to the Peel recommendations as a basis for further negotiations.[25][26][27][28] In
    a letter to his son in October 1937, Ben-Gurion explained that partition
    would be a first step to "possession of the land as a
    whole".[29][30][31] The same sentiment, that acceptance of partition was
    a temporary measure beyond which the Palestine would be "redeemed . . in
    its entirety,"[32] was recorded by Ben-Gurion on other occasions, such
    as at a meeting of the Jewish Agency executive in June 1938,[33] as well
    as by Chaim Weizmann.[31][34]

    The British Woodhead Commission was set up to examine the practicality
    of partition. The Peel plan was rejected and two possible alternatives
    were considered. In 1938 the British government issued a policy
    statement declaring that "the political, administrative and financial difficulties involved in the proposal to create independent Arab and
    Jewish States inside Palestine are so great that this solution of the
    problem is impracticable". Representatives of Arabs and Jews were
    invited to London for the St. James Conference, which proved
    unsuccessful.[35]

    With World War II looming, British policies were influenced by a desire
    to win Arab world support and could ill afford to engage with another
    Arab uprising.[36] The MacDonald White Paper of May 1939 declared that
    it was "not part of [the British government's] policy that Palestine
    should become a Jewish State", sought to limit Jewish immigration to
    Palestine and restricted Arab land sales to Jews. However, the League of Nations commission held that the White Paper was in conflict with the
    terms of the Mandate as put forth in the past. The outbreak of the
    Second World War suspended any further deliberations.[37][38] The Jewish
    Agency hoped to persuade the British to restore Jewish immigration
    rights, and cooperated with the British in the war against Fascism.
    Aliyah Bet was organized to spirit Jews out of Nazi controlled Europe,
    despite the British prohibitions. The White Paper also led to the
    formation of Lehi, a small Jewish organization which opposed the British.

    After World War II, in August 1945 President Truman asked for the
    admission of 100,000 Holocaust survivors into Palestine[39] but the
    British maintained limits on Jewish immigration in line with the 1939
    White Paper. The Jewish community rejected the restriction on
    immigration and organized an armed resistance. These actions and United
    States pressure to end the anti-immigration policy led to the
    establishment of the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry. In April 1946,
    the Committee reached a unanimous decision for the immediate admission
    of 100,000 Jewish refugees from Europe into Palestine, rescission of the
    white paper restrictions of land sale to Jews, that the country be
    neither Arab nor Jewish, and the extension of U.N. Trusteeship. The U.S. endorsed the Commission's findings concerning Jewish immigration and
    land purchase restrictions,[40] while the British made their agreement
    to implementation conditional on U.S. assistance in case of another Arab revolt.[40] In effect, the British continued to carry out their White
    Paper policy.[41] The recommendations triggered violent demonstrations
    in the Arab states, and calls for a Jihad and an annihilation of all
    European Jews in Palestine.[42]

    United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP)
    Further information: UNSCOP

    Map showing Jewish-owned land as of 31 December 1944, including land
    owned in full, shared in undivided land, and State Lands under
    concession. This constituted 6% of the total land area or 20% of
    cultivatable land,[43] of which more than half was held by the JNF and
    PICA[44]
    Under the terms of League of Nations A-class mandates each such
    mandatory territory was to become a sovereign state on termination of
    its mandate. By the end of World War II, this occurred with all such
    mandates except Palestine, however the League of Nations itself lapsed
    in 1946 leading to a legal quandary.[45][46] In February 1947, Britain announced its intent to terminate the Mandate for Palestine, referring
    the matter of the future of Palestine to the United Nations.[47][48] The
    hope was that a binational state would ensue, which meant an
    unpartitioned Palestine. British Foreign Secretary Ernest Bevin's policy
    was premised on the idea that an Arab majority would carry the day,
    which met difficulties with Harry S. Truman who, sensitive to Zionist
    electoral pressures in the United States, pressed for a British-Zionist compromise.[49] In May, the UN formed the United Nations Special
    Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) to prepare a report on recommendations
    for Palestine. The Jewish Agency pressed for Jewish representation and
    the exclusion of both Britain and Arab countries on the Committee,
    sought visits to camps where Holocaust survivors were interned in Europe
    as part of UNSCOP's brief, and in May won representation on the
    Political Committee.[50] The Arab states, convinced statehood had been subverted, and that the transition of authority from the League of
    Nations to the UN was questionable in law, wished the issues to be
    brought before an International Court, and refused to collaborate with
    UNSCOP, which had extended an invitation for liaison also to the Arab
    Higher Committee.[46][51] In August, after three months of conducting
    hearings and a general survey of the situation in Palestine, a majority
    report of the committee recommended that the region be partitioned into
    an Arab state and a Jewish state, which should retain an economic union.
    An international regime was envisioned for Jerusalem.

    The Arab delegations at the UN had sought to keep separate the issue of Palestine from the issue of Jewish refugees in Europe. During their
    visit, UNSCOP members were shocked by the extent of Lehi and Irgun
    violence, then at its apogee, and by the elaborate military presence
    attested by endemic barb-wire, searchlights, and armoured-car patrols. Committee members also witnessed the SS Exodus affair in Haifa and could
    hardly have remained unaffected by it. On concluding their mission, they dispatched a subcommittee to investigate Jewish refugee camps in Europe.[52][53] The incident is mentioned in the report in relation to
    Jewish distrust and resentment concerning the British enforcement of the
    1939 White Paper.[54]

    UNSCOP report
    On 3 September 1947, the Committee reported to the General Assembly.
    CHAPTER V: PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS (I), Section A of the Report
    contained eleven proposed recommendations (I – XI) approved unanimously. Section B contained one proposed recommendation approved by a
    substantial majority dealing with the Jewish problem in general (XI).
    CHAPTER VI: PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS (II) contained a Plan of Partition
    with Economic Union to which seven members of the Committee (Canada, Czechoslovakia, Guatemala, the Netherlands, Peru, Sweden and Uruguay), expressed themselves in favour. CHAPTER VII RECOMMENDATIONS (III)
    contained a comprehensive proposal that was voted upon and supported by
    three members (India, Iran, and Yugoslavia) for a Federal State of
    Palestine. Australia abstained. In CHAPTER VIII a number of members of
    the Committee expressed certain reservations and observations.[55]

    Proposed partition
    See also: Land ownership of the British Mandate of Palestine

    Land ownership

    Population distribution
    Two maps reviewed by UN Subcommittee 2 in considering partition
    The report of the majority of the Committee (CHAPTER VI) envisaged the
    division of Palestine into three parts: an Arab State, a Jewish State
    and the City of Jerusalem, linked by extraterritorial crossroads. The
    proposed Arab State would include the central and part of western
    Galilee, with the town of Acre, the hill country of Samaria and Judea,
    an enclave at Jaffa, and the southern coast stretching from north of
    Isdud (now Ashdod) and encompassing what is now the Gaza Strip, with a
    section of desert along the Egyptian border. The proposed Jewish State
    would include the fertile Eastern Galilee, the Coastal Plain, stretching
    from Haifa to Rehovot and most of the Negev desert,[56] including the
    southern outpost of Umm Rashrash (now Eilat). The Jerusalem Corpus
    Separatum included Bethlehem and the surrounding areas.

    The primary objectives of the majority of the Committee were political
    division and economic unity between the two groups.[4] The Plan tried
    its best to accommodate as many Jews as possible into the Jewish State.
    In many specific cases,[citation needed] this meant including areas of
    Arab majority (but with a significant Jewish minority) in the Jewish
    state. Thus the Jewish State would have an overall large Arab minority.
    Areas that were sparsely populated (like the Negev desert), were also
    included in the Jewish state to create room for immigration. According
    to the plan, Jews and Arabs living in the Jewish state would become
    citizens of the Jewish state and Jews and Arabs living in the Arab state
    would become citizens of the Arab state.

    By virtue of Chapter 3, Palestinian citizens residing in Palestine
    outside the City of Jerusalem, as well as Arabs and Jews who, not
    holding Palestinian citizenship, resided in Palestine outside the City
    of Jerusalem would, upon the recognition of independence, become
    citizens of the State in which they were resident and enjoy full civil
    and political rights.

    The Plan would have had the following demographics (data based on 1945).

    Territory Arab and other population % Arab and other Jewish
    population % Jewish Total population
    Arab State 725,000 99% 10,000 1% 735,000
    Jewish State 407,000 45% 498,000 55% 905,000
    International 105,000 51% 100,000 49% 205,000
    Total 1,237,000 67% 608,000 33% 1,845,000
    Data from the Report of UNSCOP: 3 September 1947: CHAPTER 4: A
    COMMENTARY ON PARTITION
    The land allocated to the Arab State in the final plan included about
    43% of Mandatory Palestine[57][58][59] and consisted of all of the
    highlands, except for Jerusalem, plus one-third of the coastline. The
    highlands contain the major aquifers of Palestine, which supplied water
    to the coastal cities of central Palestine, including Tel Aviv.[citation needed] The Jewish State allocated to the Jews, who constituted a third
    of the population and owned about 7% of the land, was to receive 56% of Mandatory Palestine, a slightly larger area to accommodate the
    increasing numbers of Jews who would immigrate there.[58][59][60] The
    Jewish State included three fertile lowland plains – the Sharon on the
    coast, the Jezreel Valley and the upper Jordan Valley. The bulk of the
    proposed Jewish State's territory, however, consisted of the Negev
    Desert,[56] which was not suitable for agriculture, nor for urban
    development at that time. The Jewish State would also be given sole
    access to the Sea of Galilee, crucial for its water supply, and the economically important Red Sea.

    The committee voted for the plan, 25 to 13 (with 17 abstentions and 2 absentees) on 25 November 1947 and the General Assembly was called back
    into a special session to vote on the proposal. Various sources noted
    that this was one vote short of the two-thirds majority required in the
    General Assembly.[60]

    Ad hoc Committee
    Map comparing the borders of the 1947 partition plan and the armistice
    of 1949.
    Boundaries defined in the 1947 UN Partition Plan for Palestine:

    Area assigned for a Jewish state
    Area assigned for an Arab state
    Planned Corpus separatum with the intention that Jerusalem would be neither Jewish nor Arab
    Armistice Demarcation Lines of 1949 (Green Line):

    Israeli controlled territory from 1949
    Egyptian and Jordanian controlled territory from 1948 until 1967
    Main article: Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question
    On 23 September 1947 the General Assembly established the Ad Hoc
    Committee on the Palestinian Question to consider the UNSCOP report. Representatives of the Arab Higher Committee and Jewish Agency were
    invited and attended.[61]

    During the committee's deliberations, the British government endorsed
    the report's recommendations concerning the end of the mandate,
    independence, and Jewish immigration.[citation needed] However, the
    British did "not feel able to implement" any agreement unless it was
    acceptable to both the Arabs and the Jews, and asked that the General
    Assembly provide an alternative implementing authority if that proved to
    be the case.

    The Arab Higher Committee rejected both the majority and minority recommendations within the UNSCOP report. They "concluded from a survey
    of Palestine history that Zionist claims to that country had no legal or
    moral basis". The Arab Higher Committee argued that only an Arab State
    in the whole of Palestine would be consistent with the UN Charter.

    The Jewish Agency expressed support for most of the UNSCOP
    recommendations, but emphasized the "intense urge" of the overwhelming
    majority of Jewish displaced persons to proceed to Palestine. The Jewish
    Agency criticized the proposed boundaries, especially in the Western
    Galilee and Western Jerusalem (outside of the old city), arguing that
    these should be included in the Jewish state. However, they agreed to
    accept the plan if "it would make possible the immediate
    re-establishment of the Jewish State with sovereign control of its own immigration."

    Arab states requested representation on the UN ad hoc subcommittees of
    October 1947, but were excluded from Subcommittee One, which had been
    delegated the specific task of studying and, if thought necessary,
    modifying the boundaries of the proposed partition.[62]

    Sub-Committee 2
    The Sub-Committee 2, set up on 23 October 1947 to draw up a detailed
    plan based on proposals of Arab states presented its report within a few weeks.[63]

    Based on a reproduced British report, the Sub-Committee 2 criticised the
    UNSCOP report for using inaccurate population figures, especially
    concerning the Bedouin population. The British report, dated 1 November
    1947, used the results of a new census in Beersheba in 1946 with
    additional use of aerial photographs, and an estimate of the population
    in other districts. It found that the size of the Bedouin population was greatly understated in former enumerations. In Beersheba, 3,389 Bedouin
    houses and 8,722 tents were counted. The total Bedouin population was
    estimated at approximately 127,000; only 22,000 of them normally
    resident in the Arab state under the UNSCOP majority plan. The British
    report stated:

    "the term Beersheba Bedouin has a meaning more definite than one would
    expect in the case of a nomad population. These tribes, wherever they
    are found in Palestine, will always describe themselves as Beersheba
    tribes. Their attachment to the area arises from their land rights there
    and their historic association with it."[64]

    In respect of the UNSCOP report, the Sub-Committee concluded that the
    earlier population "estimates must, however, be corrected in the light
    of the information furnished to the Sub-Committee by the representative
    of the United Kingdom regarding the Bedouin population. According to the statement, 22,000 Bedouins may be taken as normally residing in the
    areas allocated to the Arab State under the UNSCOP's majority plan, and
    the balance of 105,000 as resident in the proposed Jewish State. It will
    thus be seen that the proposed Jewish State will contain a total
    population of 1,008,800, consisting of 509,780 Arabs and 499,020 Jews.
    In other words, at the outset, the Arabs will have a majority in the
    proposed Jewish State."[65]

    The Sub-Committee 2 recommended to put the question of the Partition
    Plan before the International Court of Justice (Resolution No. I [66]).
    In respect of the Jewish refugees due to World War II, the Sub-Committee recommended to request the countries of which the refugees belonged to
    take them back as much as possible (Resolution No. II[67]). The
    Sub-Committee proposed to establish a unitary state (Resolution No.
    III[68]).

    Boundary changes
    The ad hoc committee made a number of boundary changes to the UNSCOP recommendations before they were voted on by the General Assembly.

    The predominantly Arab city of Jaffa, previously located within the
    Jewish state, was constituted as an enclave of the Arab State. The
    boundary of the Arab state was modified to include Beersheba and a strip
    of the Negev desert along the Egyptian border,[56] while a section of
    the Dead Sea shore and other additions were made to the Jewish State.
    This move increased the Jewish percentage in the Jewish state from 55%
    to 61%.[citation needed]

    The proposed boundaries would also have placed 54 Arab villages on the
    opposite side of the border from their farm land.[citation needed] In
    response, the United Nations Palestine Commission established in 1948
    was empowered to modify the boundaries "in such a way that village areas
    as a rule will not be divided by state boundaries unless pressing
    reasons make that necessary". These modifications never occurred.

    The vote

    Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on the Palestinian Question, document
    A/516, dated 25 November 1947. This was the document voted on by the UN
    General Assembly on 29 November 1947, and became known as the "United
    Nations Partition Plan for Palestine".[69]
    Passage of the resolution required a two-thirds majority of the valid
    votes, not counting abstaining and absent members, of the UN's then 57
    member states. On 26 November, after filibustering by the Zionist
    delegation, the vote was postponed by three days.[70][71] According to
    multiple sources, had the vote been held on the original set date, it
    would have received a majority, but less than the required two-thirds.[71][72][73] Various compromise proposals and variations on a
    single state, including federations and cantonal systems were debated (including those previously rejected in committee).[74][75] The delay
    was used by supporters of Zionism in New York to put extra pressure on
    states not supporting the resolution.[70]

    Reports of pressure for and against the Plan
    Reports of pressure for the Plan
    Zionists launched an intense White House lobby to have the UNSCOP plan endorsed, and the effects were not trivial.[76] The Democratic Party, a
    large part of whose contributions came from Jews,[77] informed Truman
    that failure to live up to promises to support the Jews in Palestine
    would constitute a danger to the party. The defection of Jewish votes in congressional elections in 1946 had contributed to electoral losses.
    Truman was, according to Roger Cohen, embittered by feelings of being a
    hostage to the lobby and its 'unwarranted interference', which he blamed
    for the contemporary impasse. When a formal American declaration in
    favour of partition was given on 11 October, a public relations
    authority declared to the Zionist Emergency Council in a closed meeting:
    'under no circumstances should any of us believe or think we had won
    because of the devotion of the American Government to our cause. We had
    won because of the sheer pressure of political logistics that was
    applied by the Jewish leadership in the United States'. State Department
    advice critical of the controversial UNSCOP recommendation to give the overwhelmingly Arab town of Jaffa, and the Negev, to the Jews was
    overturned by an urgent and secret late meeting organized for Chaim
    Weizman with Truman, which immediately countermanded the recommendation.
    The United States initially refrained from pressuring smaller states to
    vote either way, but Robert A. Lovett reported that America's U.N.
    delegation's case suffered impediments from high pressure by Jewish
    groups, and that indications existed that bribes and threats were being
    used, even of American sanctions against Liberia and Nicaragua.[78] When
    the UNSCOP plan failed to achieve the necessary majority on 25 November,
    the lobby 'moved into high gear' and induced the President to overrule
    the State Department, and let wavering governments know that the U.S.
    strongly desired partition.[79]

    Proponents of the Plan reportedly put pressure on nations to vote yes to
    the Partition Plan. A telegram signed by 26 US Senators with influence
    on foreign aid bills was sent to wavering countries, seeking their
    support for the partition plan.[80] The US Senate was considering a
    large aid package at the time, including 60 million dollars to
    China.[81][82] Many nations reported pressure directed specifically at them:

    United States (Vote: For): President Truman later noted, "The facts
    were that not only were there pressure movements around the United
    Nations unlike anything that had been seen there before, but that the
    White House, too, was subjected to a constant barrage. I do not think I
    ever had as much pressure and propaganda aimed at the White House as I
    had in this instance. The persistence of a few of the extreme Zionist leaders—actuated by political motives and engaging in political threats—disturbed and annoyed me."[83]
    India (Vote: Against): Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru spoke
    with anger and contempt for the way the UN vote had been lined up. He
    said the Zionists had tried to bribe India with millions and at the same
    time his sister, Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit, the Indian ambassador to the UN,
    had received daily warnings that her life was in danger unless "she
    voted right".[84] Pandit occasionally hinted that something might change
    in favour of the Zionists. But another Indian delegate, Kavallam
    Pannikar, said that India would vote for the Arab side, because of their
    large Muslim minority, although they knew that the Jews had a case.[85]
    Liberia (Vote: For): Liberia's Ambassador to the United States
    complained that the US delegation threatened aid cuts to several
    countries.[86] Harvey S. Firestone, Jr., President of Firestone Natural
    Rubber Company, with major holdings in the country, also pressured the
    Liberian government[72][80]
    Philippines (Vote: For): In the days before the vote, Philippines representative General Carlos P. Romulo stated "We hold that the issue
    is primarily moral. The issue is whether the United Nations should
    accept responsibility for the enforcement of a policy which is clearly repugnant to the valid nationalist aspirations of the people of
    Palestine. The Philippines Government holds that the United Nations
    ought not to accept such responsibility." After a phone call from
    Washington, the representative was recalled and the Philippines' vote changed.[80]
    Haiti (Vote: For): The promise of a five million dollar loan may or
    may not have secured Haiti's vote for partition.[87]
    France (Vote: For): Shortly before the vote, France's delegate to the
    United Nations was visited by Bernard Baruch, a long-term Jewish
    supporter of the Democratic Party who, during the recent world war, had
    been an economic adviser to President Roosevelt, and had latterly been appointed by President Truman as United States ambassador to the newly
    created UN Atomic Energy Commission. He was, privately, a supporter of
    the Irgun and its front organization, the American League for a Free
    Palestine. Baruch implied that a French failure to support the
    resolution might block planned American aid to France, which was badly
    needed for reconstruction, French currency reserves being exhausted and
    its balance of payments heavily in deficit. Previously, to avoid
    antagonising its Arab colonies, France had not publicly supported the

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    On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 09:19:28 -0700, a425couple
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/10/24 18:05, NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:21:52 -0700, a425couple
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/10/24 13:24, NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    By Qassam Muaddi October 9, 2024
    A year ago, Palestinians began to experience new levels of their
    ongoing catastrophe, the Nakba, which started 76 years ago. In
    response to the attack that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and caused a >>>> major embarrassment to the Israeli army and intelligence, Israel
    unleashed an extermination campaign on Gaza, leveling entire
    residential blocks, destroying education and health institutions,
    eliminating the basic infrastructure needed to sustain a society, and
    burying entire families under the rubble.

    Quite stupid of the Palestinians to refuse the offer of their own
    country in 1947.

    The offer they refused was to give up half of the land they had lived
    on for centuries, to Europeans and Americans who had no right to this
    place. To sign that away to intruders would have been treason.

    Jewish people had also lived there for thousands of years.
    But the Moslems always insisted that they had to be in charge.
    Surprise - the Palestinians mad too many serious mistakes
    to be left in charge of the whole area.
    Split it in half and let them each be in charge of their area.
    But fool Palestinians refused to do any compromise.

    The problen was never the Jewish people who had indeed lived there for thousands of years. There could have been a peaceful coexistence
    betwee the two peoples in a united Palestine. The issue became the
    swarms of Jews who came for Europe and North America and want to claim
    that land as their own. The Zionists should have demand a piece of
    German land to create their state and leave the Palestinian people
    alone.


    Seventy six years later, how is that working out for you?

    Time will tell



    It comes down to a pretty simple question.

    Do you trust the knowledge, judgement, and decision making of
    leaders like Winston Churchill and Harry Truman (or more recently
    on a rare topic that both Don Trump and Joe Biden agree on),
    joined by a super majority of the United Nations,

    I will go with our leaders who have done the best they knew
    how, to shape the world to be better than they found it.

    Your two 'reat leaders' Churchill and Truman are two of history's
    worse mass murderes. Truman nuked and Churchill carpetbombed civilian populations

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