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    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 13 08:28:16 2024
    A few more language blocks, plus a few more emojis, and some “legacy computing” symbols. Oh, and a bunch of extra Egyptian hieroglyphs.

    “Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the pyramid...”

    <http://blog.unicode.org/>

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  • From John McCue@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Sep 13 19:35:29 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    <snip>
    and some legacy computing symbols.

    I wonder what this means. Legacy to me means all these symbols
    were 7-bit ASCII. So now we have multiple encodings for '<'
    and '>' plus a whole host of others already represented in
    ASCII ?

    That is crazy, it is bad enough there are multiple symbols
    for single-dashes and quotes.

    <snip>
    <http://blog.unicode.org/>

    --
    csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
    - Paraphrasing Star Wars

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to John McCue on Fri Sep 13 22:02:49 2024
    On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 19:35:29 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:

    Legacy to me means all these symbols were 7-bit ASCII.

    ASCII was already included in Unicode from the beginning.

    So now we have multiple encodings for '<' and '>' plus a
    whole host of others already represented in ASCII ?

    I don’t see any such in the new Legacy Computing block.

    That is crazy, it is bad enough there are multiple symbols for
    single-dashes and quotes.

    Which ones do you think are not distinctly different?

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  • From John McCue@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat Sep 14 21:35:10 2024
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 19:35:29 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:

    <snip>

    That is crazy, it is bad enough there are multiple symbols for
    single-dashes and quotes.

    Which ones do you think are not distinctly different?

    See:

    https://jkorpela.fi/dashes.html

    To me there is no need for multiple '-' characters.
    One should be enough. I read it, but I will always
    say '-' is all that is needed. Same goes for double
    and single quotes :)

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to John McCue on Sat Sep 14 22:35:37 2024
    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 21:35:10 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Which ones do you think are not distinctly different?

    See:

    https://jkorpela.fi/dashes.html

    They all have different representations/meanings, which is why they’re
    there.

    To me there is no need for multiple '-' characters.

    Not good enough for typeset-quality text. Even if you want to confine
    yourself to English text in Roman script, which a lot of people don’t.

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com on Fri Sep 20 21:42:24 2024
    In comp.misc, John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> wrote:
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    <snip>
    and some legacy computing symbols.

    I wonder what this means. Legacy to me means all these symbols
    were 7-bit ASCII. So now we have multiple encodings for '<'
    and '>' plus a whole host of others already represented in
    ASCII ?

    In this case it's some checkboard patterns outside of U+0020 to U+007F
    "ASCII" range used by some legacy system.

    https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unicode-16.0/U160-2400.pdf

    U+2427, U+2428, and U+2429.

    U+2427 I know was used as a delete cursor on Apple IIe systems, I don't
    know about the others, but probably similar stories.

    Elijah
    ------
    sponsor of U+2417 in that same code block

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to John McCue on Sat Sep 21 19:59:04 2024
    John McCue <jmccue@reddwf.jmcunx.com> writes:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    <snip>
    and some legacy computing symbols.

    I wonder what this means. Legacy to me means all these symbols
    were 7-bit ASCII. So now we have multiple encodings for '<'
    and '>' plus a whole host of others already represented in
    ASCII ?

    That is crazy, it is bad enough there are multiple symbols
    for single-dashes and quotes.

    <snip>
    <http://blog.unicode.org/>

    The £ is obviously essential.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Richmond on Sun Sep 22 02:05:03 2024
    On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 19:59:04 +0100, Richmond wrote:

    The £ is obviously essential.

    €, ¢, ¥, ₩, ₦, ₢, ₹, ₺, ₯, ₮, ₽ ...

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