Just a thought experiment:
if you could/had to make something like a NNTP 2.0 (with no need for backwards compatibility) and server and client software for it today, what would it be like?
In terms of specifications, technologies used, user interface, etc.
if you could/had to make something like a NNTP 2.0 (with no need for >backwards compatibility) and server and client software for it today, what >would it be like?
In terms of specifications, technologies used, user interface, etc.
...
news.software.nntp
and actually most of the code is from Jurgen Haible's excellent local mail- >and newsserver Hamster.[end quoted excerpt]
What is Scoring?
Scoring is the process of assigning a number between -9999 and +9999 to a >message by applying scoring rules to the message. A scoring rule usually >analyzes one header field of the message and if it this header field matches >a certain text, a score value is assigned. For example, you can create a >scoring rule that assign the highest score value +9999 to all messages that >have your email address in the From header field, so that your messages >always receive a score of +9999.
The score value is shown in the header list in green for positive scores
and in red for negative scores:
Note that the list of headers can be sorted by score (with or without >threading), so scoring can be used to visually organize and separate >important from unimportant messages.
...
Usenet articles are scored twice in Dialog. When you get headers in a
group the scoring rules are applied to the available, limited number of >headers, however when you retrieve the complete body of the message, the >message is scored again and this time all headers can be scored.
The scoring and action rules are stored together in one file, the score
file, which you can access by selecting Settings, Scoring and actions
from Dialog's main menu.
You could just use something like Mastodon, and move to the Fediverse.
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 21:52:14 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/7/24 20:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
You could just use something like Mastodon, and move to the Fediverse.
Mastodon / Fediverse isn't feature compatible.
It isn't limitation-compatible or bug-compatible either. It's a complete >rethinking of the way distributed social media is supposed to work.
On 2024-08-08, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/7/24 20:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:Every time I look at it, I get the feeling that mastodon/fediverse is a
You could just use something like Mastodon, and move to the Fediverse.Mastodon / Fediverse isn't feature compatible. Not the least of which
is that Usenet servers are local copies of things posted to servers.
half thought-out "hey wouldn't it be cool if ... " type thing that only
came about because people think "The Web" is synonymous with "The
Internet".
Or maybe it's just the marketing-speak on their websites ...
[...]
It's relatively easy to link two disconnected NNTP networks with
something like a mag' tape in a station wagon. You can't do that with
very many networking technologies.
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tape
hurtling down the freeway :)
(or however that went)
On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 07:32:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 21:52:14 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 8/7/24 20:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
You could just use something like Mastodon, and move to the
Fediverse.
Mastodon / Fediverse isn't feature compatible.
It isn't limitation-compatible or bug-compatible either. It's a complete >>rethinking of the way distributed social media is supposed to work.
social media is moderated; unmoderated newsgroups are unmoderated
In comp.misc Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 19:13:00 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
I mean something like ASN.1 ...
Bloody hell.
Where’s the garlic ...
Gentle reminder of the full text:
| I mean something like ASN.1 (although not ASN.1; far more complex |
than necessary).
ASN.1 is given as an example because it’s a well-known example of an
interface definition language, not because I’m suggesting using it, as
anyone capable of reading to the end of a sentence can tell.
Do note you are respondig to Lawrence. He exists soley to create
turmoil and strife. So if halting his reading comprehension at the
first part of your sentence would generate maximum turmoil and strife,
then that is just exactly what he will do.
NNTP (RFC 3977) does not support notification if something
interesting becomes available.
Michael Bauerle:
NNTP (RFC 3977) does not support notification if something
interesting becomes available.
Can't we consider it an advantage, a natural limit to the
monkey mind, facilitating better focus?
Chris Hennessy (chenness@enterprise.powerup.com.au) wrote:
The brothers Usas and Senda, despairing of the state of UseNet, went
unto the mountain at the feet of Net.God. "Oh Net.God, there is
confusion and sorrow in your place of UseNet. The people worship false
gods and knowst not your will."
Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> writes:
Chris Hennessy (chenness@enterprise.powerup.com.au) wrote:
The brothers Usas and Senda, despairing of the state of UseNet, went
unto the mountain at the feet of Net.God. "Oh Net.God, there is
confusion and sorrow in your place of UseNet. The people worship false
gods and knowst not your will."
Interesting to note that top-posting wasn't mentioned by Net.God in
His commandments.
I guess that the Commandments predate the deplorable appearance of
Outlook Excrete. It was that email prog. being pressed into service on Usenet that brought the execrable email habit of top posting to Usenet.
Interesting to note that top-posting wasn't mentioned by
Net.God in His commandments.
In the 00s (first decade), we had lots of very technical conversations.
I remember comp.lang.c. Wow. It was full of very knowledgeable C >programmers. You can hardly see that now.
Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> writes:
Chris Hennessy (chenness@enterprise.powerup.com.au) wrote:
The brothers Usas and Senda, despairing of the state of UseNet, went
unto the mountain at the feet of Net.God. "Oh Net.God, there is
confusion and sorrow in your place of UseNet. The people worship false
gods and knowst not your will."
Interesting to note that top-posting wasn't mentioned by Net.God in
His commandments.
Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> wrote or quoted:
In the 00s (first decade), we had lots of very technical conversations.
I remember comp.lang.c. Wow. It was full of very knowledgeable C >>programmers. You can hardly see that now.
Ben Bacarisse and James Kuyper are knowledgeable as all get-out.
Are they hanging out at comp.lang.c now?
I unsubscribed myself. Can't remember why. Very long conversations
about uninteresting things? Can't remember.
Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> wrote or quoted:They were both there at the time. Are they hanging out at comp.lang.c
In the 00s (first decade), we had lots of very technical conversations.Ben Bacarisse and James Kuyper are knowledgeable as all get-out.
I remember comp.lang.c. Wow. It was full of very knowledgeable C >>>programmers. You can hardly see that now.
now? I unsubscribed myself. Can't remember why. Very long
conversations about uninteresting things? Can't remember.
Interesting to note that top-posting wasn't mentioned by Net.God in His commandments.
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