• Apple Has Really Jumped The Shark This Time

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 10 05:57:58 2024
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    Seems its new ad, showing a pile of musical instruments and other artistic equipment being destroyed and replaced with an Ipad, has really pissed off
    many in the creative community.

    <https://www.computerworld.com/article/2099740/apples-worst-ad-ever.html>

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri May 10 18:16:40 2024
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    On 2024-05-10 05:57:58 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:

    Seems its new ad, showing a pile of musical instruments and other artistic equipment being destroyed and replaced with an Ipad,

    iPad, not "Ipad".


    has really pissed off many in the creative community.

    <https://www.computerworld.com/article/2099740/apples-worst-ad-ever.html>

    Because the whiners are brainless idiots, as usual.

    The advert is likely CGI animation (it would be impossible to get that
    rubber ball face to be in the correct position for a start), so "no
    musical or art materials were harmed in the making of this advert". :-p

    Not that that is even the point of the advert. It's simply saying you
    can replace all those things with an iPad ... **IF YOU WANT TO!!**

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri May 10 19:30:24 2024
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    On 2024-05-10 07:23:25 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:
    On Fri, 10 May 2024 18:16:40 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    Because the whiners are brainless idiots, as usual.

    If that’s Apple’s attitude to its customers, then I can’t see these new Ipads selling very well.

    It isn't "Apple's attitude" ... it's simply a clever advert that a
    small bunch of brainless idiots with nothing better to do decided they
    would whine about to get their 2secs of fame.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to BungleBob on Fri May 10 07:32:52 2024
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    On Fri, 10 May 2024 19:30:24 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    It isn't "Apple's attitude" ... it's simply a clever advert that a small bunch of brainless idiots with nothing better to do decided they would
    whine about to get their 2secs of fame.

    Ah, I see. Apple is the proverbial “misunderstood genius”, eh? It’s the customers’ fault the company’s marketing approach is failing to resonate this time!

    Maybe they need to get better customers ...

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri May 10 20:05:36 2024
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    On 2024-05-10 07:32:52 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:
    On Fri, 10 May 2024 19:30:24 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    It isn't "Apple's attitude" ... it's simply a clever advert that a small
    bunch of brainless idiots with nothing better to do decided they would
    whine about to get their 2secs of fame.

    Ah, I see. Apple is the proverbial “misunderstood genius”, eh? It’s the customers’ fault the company’s marketing approach is failing to resonate this time!

    Maybe they need to get better customers ...

    Count the number of whiners and compare it to the number of happy
    customers ... the whiners are a tiny microscopic minority. The vast
    majority of people are either happy with the advert or don't care and
    realise it's just an advert, and in either case simply aren't bothering
    to open their mouths all over the internet / news media. As always,
    it's the squeaky wheel that gets the oil, while the other 99% of wheels
    simply keep going along.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to BungleBob on Fri May 10 07:23:25 2024
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    On Fri, 10 May 2024 18:16:40 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    Because the whiners are brainless idiots, as usual.

    If that’s Apple’s attitude to its customers, then I can’t see these new Ipads selling very well.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to BungleBob on Fri May 10 21:21:35 2024
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    On Fri, 10 May 2024 20:05:36 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    Count the number of whiners and compare it to the number of happy
    customers ... the whiners are a tiny microscopic minority.

    Of course they are. That’s why Apple didn’t need to apologize and withdraw the ad, isn’t it?

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat May 11 10:17:53 2024
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    On 2024-05-10 21:21:35 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:
    On Fri, 10 May 2024 20:05:36 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    Count the number of whiners and compare it to the number of happy
    customers ... the whiners are a tiny microscopic minority.

    Of course they are. That’s why Apple didn’t need to apologize and withdraw
    the ad, isn’t it?

    Unfortunately in these days of Political Correctness idiocy, it's
    always "the needs of the few loudmouthed whining idiots outweigh the
    needs of the many" (to mis-paraphrase Star Trek's Spock). :-\

    Apple shouldn’t have apologized for its iPad Pro ‘Crush’ ad
    Apple's iPad ad isn't heartbreaking destruction, it's just harmless fun. <https://www.macworld.com/article/2328855/ipad-ad-harmless-fun.html>

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to BungleBob on Sat May 11 00:08:50 2024
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    On Sat, 11 May 2024 10:17:53 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    Unfortunately in these days of Political Correctness idiocy, it's always
    "the needs of the few loudmouthed whining idiots outweigh the needs of
    the many" (to mis-paraphrase Star Trek's Spock). :-\

    Why do you think Apple felt the need to do it? Was it because it might
    hurt its share price? Hurt its sales? No particular reason at all? None of
    the above?

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  • From John McCue@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat May 11 01:56:43 2024
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    follow-ups trimmed to: comp.misc

    In comp.misc Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Seems its new ad, showing a pile of musical instruments and other artistic equipment being destroyed and replaced with an Ipad, has really pissed off many in the creative community.

    <https://www.computerworld.com/article/2099740/apples-worst-ad-ever.html>

    I saw the ad but did not understand it, then I heard how
    people hated it but not why. I did think it was real dumb.

    Anyway, thanks for the post, at least I understand what it
    was trying to say :) And yes, I can see why many Apple
    users were upset. Many like to be thought of as creative
    and destroying the tools they would like to use would be
    upsetting to them.

    --
    [t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
    - Paraphrasing Star Wars

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat May 11 14:00:54 2024
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    On 2024-05-11 00:08:50 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:
    On Sat, 11 May 2024 10:17:53 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    Unfortunately in these days of Political Correctness idiocy, it's always
    "the needs of the few loudmouthed whining idiots outweigh the needs of
    the many" (to mis-paraphrase Star Trek's Spock). :-\

    Why do you think Apple felt the need to do it? Was it because it might
    hurt its share price? Hurt its sales? No particular reason at all? None of the above?

    As above, to appease the Politically Correct whiners.

    Similarly, they've stopped now putting the free Apple stickers in the
    device boxes to appease the eco-police.

    Pretty much everything businesses and governments do these days is
    about appeasing the few loudmouthed whining idiots.

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to John McCue on Sat May 11 18:16:33 2024
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    On 2024-05-11 01:56:43 +0000, John McCue said:
    follow-ups trimmed to: comp.misc
    In comp.misc Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Seems its new ad, showing a pile of musical instruments and other artistic >> equipment being destroyed and replaced with an Ipad, has really pissed off >> many in the creative community.

    <https://www.computerworld.com/article/2099740/apples-worst-ad-ever.html>

    I saw the ad but did not understand it, then I heard how
    people hated it but not why. I did think it was real dumb.

    Anyway, thanks for the post, at least I understand what it
    was trying to say :) And yes, I can see why many Apple
    users were upset. Many like to be thought of as creative
    and destroying the tools they would like to use would be
    upsetting to them.

    The copncept of the advert is basically that the iPad can (if you want
    it to) replace any/all of those other objects - you can use the iPad to
    make music, paint images, do animations, etc.

    A true "creative" chooses the appropriate tool for the job. That might
    be the iPad, it might be one of the many other objects, or it might be
    a combination of the two (e.g. sketching drawings by hand to then scan
    into the iPad for cleaning up and completing).

    The whiners are simply a bunch of brainless morons with nothing better
    to do trying to get their 2secs of fame ... people are dying in Gaza
    and the Ukraine, and all these fools can do is complain about a f'ing
    advert. :-\

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to BungleBob on Sat May 11 05:38:37 2024
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    On Sat, 11 May 2024 14:00:54 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    On 2024-05-11 00:08:50 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:

    On Sat, 11 May 2024 10:17:53 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    Unfortunately in these days of Political Correctness idiocy, it's
    always "the needs of the few loudmouthed whining idiots outweigh the
    needs of the many" (to mis-paraphrase Star Trek's Spock). :-\

    Why do you think Apple felt the need to do it? Was it because it might
    hurt its share price? Hurt its sales? No particular reason at all? None
    of the above?

    As above, to appease the Politically Correct whiners.

    You think that Apple’s market is dominated by “Politically Correct
    whiners?

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat May 11 18:21:06 2024
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    On 2024-05-11 05:38:37 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:

    On Sat, 11 May 2024 14:00:54 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    On 2024-05-11 00:08:50 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:

    On Sat, 11 May 2024 10:17:53 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    Unfortunately in these days of Political Correctness idiocy, it's
    always "the needs of the few loudmouthed whining idiots outweigh the
    needs of the many" (to mis-paraphrase Star Trek's Spock). :-\

    Why do you think Apple felt the need to do it? Was it because it might
    hurt its share price? Hurt its sales? No particular reason at all? None
    of the above?

    As above, to appease the Politically Correct whiners.

    You think that Apple’s market is dominated by “Politically Correct whiners?

    Another braindead troll joins the killfile. :-\

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  • From Rich@21:1/5 to BungleBob on Sat May 11 15:05:19 2024
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    In comp.misc BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    On 2024-05-11 01:56:43 +0000, John McCue said:
    follow-ups trimmed to: comp.misc
    In comp.misc Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Seems its new ad, showing a pile of musical instruments and other artistic >>> equipment being destroyed and replaced with an Ipad, has really pissed off >>> many in the creative community.

    <https://www.computerworld.com/article/2099740/apples-worst-ad-ever.html> >>
    I saw the ad but did not understand it, then I heard how
    people hated it but not why. I did think it was real dumb.

    Anyway, thanks for the post, at least I understand what it
    was trying to say :) And yes, I can see why many Apple
    users were upset. Many like to be thought of as creative
    and destroying the tools they would like to use would be
    upsetting to them.

    The copncept of the advert is basically that the iPad can (if you want
    it to) replace any/all of those other objects - you can use the iPad to
    make music, paint images, do animations, etc.

    I did not see the ad itself until after reading the complaint reports.
    Hunting down a playable video and watching it, knowing full well the
    intended concept, the ad itself fell flat on its face anyway. There
    was no connection made by the ad to the actual intended concept. It
    was an interesting CGI animation of crushing a lot of things, and then
    an ipad appeared. So even without the whiners the ad agency really
    missed the mark on conveying their intended meaning.

    The whiners are simply a bunch of brainless morons with nothing better
    to do trying to get their 2secs of fame

    From the very long HN comments thread on the ad, it appears that a
    significant number of the whining creatives actually thought the ad was
    showing a real physical press crushing actual physical objects. There
    were numerous comments from folks complaining about how it was such a
    waste to crush "so and so favorite item" instead of donating it to an underprivlidged school or "low on the econimic totem pole foreign
    country". Other comments were of the form of "so sad to crush an X of
    such good condition when few X's of that 'nick are left in the world".
    This one was often in relation to the video game in the middle that was "crushed" early on in the ad. These folks thought they were seeing
    actual physical objects being destroyed before there eyes, and could
    not separate fantasy from reality sufficient to recognize that the
    entire ad was well done CGI. I suspect a lot of the whiners are also
    in the same group that thought they were watching real physical objects
    being crushed to nothing.

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to Rich on Sun May 12 10:45:39 2024
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    On 2024-05-11 15:05:19 +0000, Rich said:
    In comp.misc BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    On 2024-05-11 01:56:43 +0000, John McCue said:
    follow-ups trimmed to: comp.misc
    In comp.misc Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Seems its new ad, showing a pile of musical instruments and other
    artistic equipment being destroyed and replaced with an Ipad, has
    really pissed off many in the creative community.

    <https://www.computerworld.com/article/2099740/apples-worst-ad-ever.html> >>>
    I saw the ad but did not understand it, then I heard how
    people hated it but not why. I did think it was real dumb.

    Anyway, thanks for the post, at least I understand what it
    was trying to say :) And yes, I can see why many Apple
    users were upset. Many like to be thought of as creative
    and destroying the tools they would like to use would be
    upsetting to them.

    The copncept of the advert is basically that the iPad can (if you want
    it to) replace any/all of those other objects - you can use the iPad to
    make music, paint images, do animations, etc.

    I did not see the ad itself until after reading the complaint reports. Hunting down a playable video and watching it, knowing full well the
    intended concept, the ad itself fell flat on its face anyway. There
    was no connection made by the ad to the actual intended concept. It
    was an interesting CGI animation of crushing a lot of things, and then
    an ipad appeared. So even without the whiners the ad agency really
    missed the mark on conveying their intended meaning.

    Literally, all those objects are compressed down into one iPad ...
    hence the meaning: one iPad can do what all those seperate things can
    do (if you want to of course).



    The whiners are simply a bunch of brainless morons with nothing better
    to do trying to get their 2secs of fame

    From the very long HN comments thread on the ad, it appears that a significant number of the whining creatives actually thought the ad was showing a real physical press crushing actual physical objects. There
    were numerous comments from folks complaining about how it was such a
    waste to crush "so and so favorite item" instead of donating it to an underprivlidged school or "low on the econimic totem pole foreign
    country". Other comments were of the form of "so sad to crush an X of
    such good condition when few X's of that 'nick are left in the world".
    This one was often in relation to the video game in the middle that was "crushed" early on in the ad. These folks thought they were seeing
    actual physical objects being destroyed before there eyes, and could
    not separate fantasy from reality sufficient to recognize that the
    entire ad was well done CGI. I suspect a lot of the whiners are also
    in the same group that thought they were watching real physical objects
    being crushed to nothing.

    Probably further prove that "creatives" don't use their logical side of
    their brain very much. ;-)

    Most adverts require numerous takes and scenes, so if it had been real,
    they would likely have had to destroy hundreds of the same objects.
    Just getting those multiple versions of the same object in the exact
    same positions for continuity would be pretty much impossible, let
    alone getting them to follow the same path when the crusher is
    operating.

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to BungleBob on Sun May 12 11:14:31 2024
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    On 2024-05-11 22:45:39 +0000, BungleBob said:
    On 2024-05-11 15:05:19 +0000, Rich said:
    In comp.misc BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    On 2024-05-11 01:56:43 +0000, John McCue said:
    follow-ups trimmed to: comp.misc
    In comp.misc Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Seems its new ad, showing a pile of musical instruments and other
    artistic equipment being destroyed and replaced with an Ipad, has
    really pissed off many in the creative community.

    <https://www.computerworld.com/article/2099740/apples-worst-ad-ever.html> >>>>
    I saw the ad but did not understand it, then I heard how
    people hated it but not why. I did think it was real dumb.

    Anyway, thanks for the post, at least I understand what it
    was trying to say :) And yes, I can see why many Apple
    users were upset. Many like to be thought of as creative
    and destroying the tools they would like to use would be
    upsetting to them.

    The copncept of the advert is basically that the iPad can (if you want
    it to) replace any/all of those other objects - you can use the iPad to
    make music, paint images, do animations, etc.

    I did not see the ad itself until after reading the complaint reports.
    Hunting down a playable video and watching it, knowing full well the
    intended concept, the ad itself fell flat on its face anyway. There
    was no connection made by the ad to the actual intended concept. It
    was an interesting CGI animation of crushing a lot of things, and then
    an ipad appeared. So even without the whiners the ad agency really
    missed the mark on conveying their intended meaning.

    Literally, all those objects are compressed down into one iPad ...
    hence the meaning: one iPad can do what all those seperate things can
    do (if you want to of course).

    There's even a second unintended meaning which should appease the
    eco-greenies. Instead of all those things going into landfill garbage
    dumps, they've been recycled to make an iPad ... although isn't
    probably true that *all* those things actually go into making an iPad.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to BungleBob on Sun May 12 00:59:05 2024
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    On Sun, 12 May 2024 11:14:31 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    There's even a second unintended meaning which should appease the eco-greenies.

    Boy, you are really desperate to try to spin this whole “unintended meaning” in Apple’s favour, aren’t you?

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to BungleBob on Sun May 12 23:39:47 2024
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    On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:21:06 +1200, BungleBob wrote:

    On 2024-05-11 05:38:37 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said:

    You think that Apple’s market is dominated by “Politically Correct
    whiners?

    [Yes]

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  • From BungleBob@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Tue May 14 16:00:25 2024
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    On 2024-05-14 02:30:31 +0000, The Real Bev said:
    On 5/11/24 4:14 PM, BungleBob wrote:
    On 2024-05-11 22:45:39 +0000, BungleBob said:

    Literally, all those objects are compressed down into one iPad ...
    hence the meaning: one iPad can do what all those seperate things can
    do (if you want to of course).

    There's even a second unintended meaning which should appease the
    eco-greenies. Instead of all those things going into landfill garbage
    dumps, they've been recycled to make an iPad ... although isn't
    probably true that *all* those things actually go into making an iPad.

    Pollyanna strikes again!

    I don't think there's much wood in an iPad.

    No, but there is carbon and/or the wood could be used for the fires
    melting the metal parts down. ;-)

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