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  • Microsoft thinks everyone should upgrade their hardware

    From RS Wood@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 8 19:40:43 2021
    From the «not happening here for sure» department:
    Feed: The Register
    Title: Microsoft: Many workers are stuck on old computers and should probably upgrade
    Author: Richard Speed
    Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 12:28:31 -0400
    Link: https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/11/04/microsoft_device_decisions/

    What was that, Brad Smith? You're at climate summit COP26 talking about sustainability plans? You're breaking up... Going in a tunnel

    Microsoft published a report[1] today that highlights the "problem" of users sticking with ageing devices.…

    Links:
    [1]: https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/ (link)



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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to rsw@therandymon.com on Tue Nov 9 04:54:04 2021
    It's not just Microsoft. :( Bah to frequent upgrades!


    RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
    From the not happening here for sure department:
    Feed: The Register
    Title: Microsoft: Many workers are stuck on old computers and should probably upgrade
    Author: Richard Speed
    Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 12:28:31 -0400
    Link: https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/11/04/microsoft_device_decisions/

    What was that, Brad Smith? You're at climate summit COP26 talking about sustainability plans? You're breaking up... Going in a tunnel

    Microsoft published a report[1] today that highlights the "problem" of users sticking with ageing devices.???

    Links:
    [1]: https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/ (link)




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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 9 14:03:07 2021
    Am Tue, 09 Nov 2021 04:54:04 -0600
    schrieb ant@zimage.comANT (Ant):

    https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/
    (link)

    Why should they?
    Because Microsoft wants that?
    This was also a problem with XP computers not being able to run Vista
    or 7, they got replaced because they were to slow for modern web. MS
    also didn't manage to get rid of them for many years.

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  • From Richard Kettlewell@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Tue Nov 9 13:18:22 2021
    Marco Moock <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
    schrieb ant@zimage.comANT (Ant):

    https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/
    (link)

    Why should they?
    Because Microsoft wants that?

    According to the article, it’s the employees that want upgrades.

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to Richard Kettlewell on Tue Nov 9 17:08:35 2021
    On 2021-11-09, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Marco Moock <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
    Why should they?
    Because Microsoft wants that?

    According to the article, it’s the employees that want upgrades.

    The penultimate paragraph shows it's both sides. I have trouble seeing
    how a device given me at the beginning of the pandemic (so, 20 months
    ago, more or less) would be stifling my productivity.

    Microsoft's new trusted boot chip is going to put a lot of laptops on
    the used market. Good for me - I typically buy older kit for a few
    hundred bucks and it works astonishingly well for everything I do. I
    look forward to buying some used equipment for pennies on the dollar.

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  • From Richard Kettlewell@21:1/5 to Retrograde on Tue Nov 9 17:29:37 2021
    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> writes:
    Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Marco Moock <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
    Why should they?
    Because Microsoft wants that?

    According to the article, it’s the employees that want upgrades.

    The penultimate paragraph shows it's both sides. I have trouble
    seeing how a device given me at the beginning of the pandemic (so, 20
    months ago, more or less) would be stifling my productivity.

    It’s about devices they already had prior to switching to remote work,
    so potentially a lot older than that.

    Microsoft's new trusted boot chip is going to put a lot of laptops on
    the used market. Good for me - I typically buy older kit for a few
    hundred bucks and it works astonishingly well for everything I do. I
    look forward to buying some used equipment for pennies on the dollar.

    I think you mean the Windows 11 requirement for TPM 2.0. It’s not “Microsoft’s chip”.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Richard Kettlewell on Tue Nov 9 21:19:46 2021
    Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Marco Moock <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
    schrieb ant@zimage.comANT (Ant):

    https://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2021/11/04/most-uk-workers-havent-changed-their-device-during-the-pandemic-heres-why-thats-a-big-problem/
    (link)

    Why should they?
    Because Microsoft wants that?

    According to the article, it's the employees that want upgrades.

    The article is obvious marketing. The computers that businesses
    would buy for those workers will usually come with a Windows
    licence (even if that licence isn't used in preference for an
    existing corporate licence), so the manufacturer will have paid
    M$ for those licences. More computer sales, more licence sales,
    more money to M$.

    So I guess M$ have discovered that they're not getting as many
    licence sales due to a lack of office computer upgrades over the
    pandemic. Hence someone got the job of writing an article that
    tries to convince employers that their workers want upgrades.

    Possibly part of the same strategy that had them arbitrarily
    lift the system requirements bar for W11.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 10 15:40:15 2021
    Am Tue, 9 Nov 2021 21:19:46 -0000 (UTC)
    schrieb not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev):

    The article is obvious marketing. The computers that businesses
    would buy for those workers will usually come with a Windows
    licence (even if that licence isn't used in preference for an
    existing corporate licence), so the manufacturer will have paid
    M$ for those licences. More computer sales, more licence sales,
    more money to M$.

    As I know, MS volume licenses need a base operating system on each
    computer, that can be Windows Home or an older version, but you need a
    normal Windows license too to meet the requirements. This is the reason
    why businesses still buy computers with Windows included (even if that
    is Win 7/10 Home/Starter etc.).

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to Richard Kettlewell on Thu Nov 11 12:28:51 2021
    Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> writes:
    Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I think you mean the Windows 11 requirement for TPM 2.0. It’s not “Microsoft’s chip”.

    Yes, you are correct, my mistake. More like, "the chip that Win11 will
    now require."

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