How did we get to the point where one has to do a web search just to be
able to answer the infernal device?
On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 15:13:50 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver wrote:
This phone is running "Android Go Edition", which was designed to run on
reduced memory phones for poor people. It has all kinds of
not-so-helpful restrictions.
Why do I suddenly hear the phrase “you pays yer money, and you takes yer choice” ... ?
This phone is running "Android Go Edition", which was designed to run on reduced memory phones for poor people. It has all kinds of
not-so-helpful restrictions.
Turns out it is trivially easy to accidentally disable the ability to
answer the phone on the smartphone model I own (Motorolla e22i), and
one only discovers that the next time someone calls.
How did we get to the point where one has to do a web search just to
be able to answer the infernal device?
On 09-Apr-24 8:23 am, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 15:13:50 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver wrote:
This phone is running "Android Go Edition", which was designed to run on >>> reduced memory phones for poor people. It has all kinds ofWhy do I suddenly hear the phrase “you pays yer money, and you takes
not-so-helpful restrictions.
yer
choice” ... ?
It's a nice theory, but these days one doesn't expect to know about
these issues until one discovers them later.
How did we get to the point where one has to do a web search just to be
able to answer the infernal device?
Sylvia.
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
How did we get to the point where one has to do a web search just to be
able to answer the infernal device?
No kidding! Also I have a hard time hanging up the "smart"
phone. These phones do not make using it as a phone easy.
I am not far from tossing it out the window and going to a
dumb phone.
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024, John McCue wrote:
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
How did we get to the point where one has to do a web search just to be
able to answer the infernal device?
No kidding! Also I have a hard time hanging up the "smart"
phone. These phones do not make using it as a phone easy.
I am not far from tossing it out the window and going to a
dumb phone.
Do it! I haven't had a smartphone for about 5 years or so and I love it!
The highest price I pay is not being able to get ?ber taxis so I pay about
3x the price with a regular taxi
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024, John McCue wrote:
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
How did we get to the point where one has to do a web search just to be >>>> able to answer the infernal device?
No kidding! Also I have a hard time hanging up the "smart"
phone. These phones do not make using it as a phone easy.
I am not far from tossing it out the window and going to a
dumb phone.
Do it! I haven't had a smartphone for about 5 years or so and I love it!
The highest price I pay is not being able to get ?ber taxis so I pay about >> 3x the price with a regular taxi
I never started using a smartphone, and I recently ran into my
first financial disadvantage resulting from that. I got a
Mastercard gift card as part of a promotion, which I'd made a
deliberate effort to obtain, and it turns out I need a smartphone
app to activate it. Old forum threads suggest that there used to be
a way to do it on their mastercardgift.com.au website, but that
seems to have gone because of course everyone has a smartphone now.
To be fair, so far I've only established that it can't be used
online without setting it up in the app, I still need to find an
appropriate time and place to try using it in-store.
But I'm still sticking to dumb phones. Only I stuffed up trying to
find a cheap 4G one with good reception - it won't talk to the
telco I use. Previous network-locked phones didn't care whether the
network they were locked to was accessed via an account with a
reseller using that phone network, but apparantly they've been
silently shifting the goalposts.
On Sun, 14 Apr 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Do it! I haven't had a smartphone for about 5 years or so and I love it! >>> The highest price I pay is not being able to get ?ber taxis so I pay about >>> 3x the price with a regular taxi
I never started using a smartphone, and I recently ran into my
You are very strong with the force! Much respect.
first financial disadvantage resulting from that. I got a
Mastercard gift card as part of a promotion, which I'd made a
deliberate effort to obtain, and it turns out I need a smartphone
app to activate it. Old forum threads suggest that there used to be
a way to do it on their mastercardgift.com.au website, but that
seems to have gone because of course everyone has a smartphone now.
To be fair, so far I've only established that it can't be used
online without setting it up in the app, I still need to find an
appropriate time and place to try using it in-store.
Well, if you won it as a reward, then I'm sure you can just ask your
company to add it to your salary? The card they can just reuse the next
time someone does something good. =)
But I'm still sticking to dumb phones. Only I stuffed up trying to
find a cheap 4G one with good reception - it won't talk to the
telco I use. Previous network-locked phones didn't care whether the
network they were locked to was accessed via an account with a
reseller using that phone network, but apparantly they've been
silently shifting the goalposts.
I've had a nokia 220 4g and a nokia 110 4g and both work great with 3g and 4g. Actually I turn off the 4g to save on battery. But maybe you tried
those already?
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Sun, 14 Apr 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Do it! I haven't had a smartphone for about 5 years or so and I love it! >>>> The highest price I pay is not being able to get ?ber taxis so I pay about >>>> 3x the price with a regular taxi
I never started using a smartphone, and I recently ran into my
You are very strong with the force! Much respect.
first financial disadvantage resulting from that. I got a
Mastercard gift card as part of a promotion, which I'd made a
deliberate effort to obtain, and it turns out I need a smartphone
app to activate it. Old forum threads suggest that there used to be
a way to do it on their mastercardgift.com.au website, but that
seems to have gone because of course everyone has a smartphone now.
To be fair, so far I've only established that it can't be used
online without setting it up in the app, I still need to find an
appropriate time and place to try using it in-store.
Well, if you won it as a reward, then I'm sure you can just ask your
company to add it to your salary? The card they can just reuse the next
time someone does something good. =)
Oh not that sort of "promotion", I mean the reward was for not
buying someone else's product. :)
Actually it was a bribe to make me switch away from a service that
the provider wanted to discontinue, onto one which will cost me
more than the gift card's value in the long run of course. Actually
in my case it was a reward for dragging my heels for as long as I
possibly could, ignoring previous warnings if impending
discontinuation. I can hope that a similar thing will happen with
the 3G turn-off, but it probably won't with the cheap telcos at
least.
But I'm still sticking to dumb phones. Only I stuffed up trying to
find a cheap 4G one with good reception - it won't talk to the
telco I use. Previous network-locked phones didn't care whether the
network they were locked to was accessed via an account with a
reseller using that phone network, but apparantly they've been
silently shifting the goalposts.
I've had a nokia 220 4g and a nokia 110 4g and both work great with 3g and >> 4g. Actually I turn off the 4g to save on battery. But maybe you tried
those already?
I haven't tried those but at the moment I'm comparing reception
between a Nokia 2660 Flip and an Alcatel 3080T, the latter being
the network-locked one but I can buy them unlocked from Ebay.
The Alcatel claims to have two more reception bars than the Nokia
most of the time, but I think its bars might be deceptively scaled.
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024, John McCue wrote:
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
How did we get to the point where one has to do a web search just to be
able to answer the infernal device?
No kidding! Also I have a hard time hanging up the "smart"
phone. These phones do not make using it as a phone easy.
I am not far from tossing it out the window and going to a
dumb phone.
Do it! I haven't had a smartphone for about 5 years or so and I love it!
The highest price I pay is not being able to get Über taxis so I pay
about 3x the price with a regular taxi, and I also miss the wireless
sharing functionality.
But in many cases it is possible to Stallman yourself an Übertaxi.
On 13/04/2024 7:44 pm, D wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024, John McCue wrote:
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
How did we get to the point where one has to do a web search just to be >>>> able to answer the infernal device?
No kidding! Also I have a hard time hanging up the "smart"
phone. These phones do not make using it as a phone easy.
I am not far from tossing it out the window and going to a
dumb phone.
Do it! I haven't had a smartphone for about 5 years or so and I love it!
The highest price I pay is not being able to get Über taxis so I pay about >> 3x the price with a regular taxi, and I also miss the wireless sharing
functionality.
But in many cases it is possible to Stallman yourself an Übertaxi.
Increasingly many things just assume you have a smart phone, and that you want to use it to control your purchase. The Tesla Powerwall 2 is one such.
As originally supplied it also had a web interface to which one could connect directly, and which could be used to exert some control over it, but Tesla have increasingly locked that down, and now it's pretty much smartphone or nothing.
Sylvia.
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