It was very hard to believe that Coherent and its basic
applications were not created without considerable study of the OS
code and details of its applications. Looking at various corners
convinced me that I couldn't find anything that was copied. It
might have been that some parts were written with our source
nearby, but at least the effort had been made to rewrite. If it
came to it, I could never honestly testify that my opinion was that
what they generated was irreproducible from the manual.
COHERENT version 4 was released in May of 1992 for $100 (around $219
in 2024). This version made COHERENT a fully 32 bit operating system
and required at least an Intel 80386 CPU and 1MB of RAM. This version
also brought official support for X Windows and MGR to COHERENT for
the first time. This version was roughly compatible with UNIX SVR3.
COHERENT version 4 was released in May of 1992 for $100 (around $219
in 2024). This version made COHERENT a fully 32 bit operating system
and required at least an Intel 80386 CPU and 1MB of RAM. This version
also brought official support for X Windows and MGR to COHERENT for
the first time. This version was roughly compatible with UNIX SVR3.
The Mark Williams Company
And the COHERENT operating system
=================================
Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote or quoted:
COHERENT version 4 was released in May of 1992 for $100 (around $219
in 2024). This version made COHERENT a fully 32 bit operating system
and required at least an Intel 80386 CPU and 1MB of RAM. This version
also brought official support for X Windows and MGR to COHERENT for
the first time. This version was roughly compatible with UNIX SVR3.
BTW: Probably "X Window" (the X Window System) is meant above,
not "X Windows".
Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote or quoted:
COHERENT version 4 was released in May of 1992 for $100 (around $219
in 2024). This version made COHERENT a fully 32 bit operating system
and required at least an Intel 80386 CPU and 1MB of RAM. This version >>>also brought official support for X Windows and MGR to COHERENT for
the first time. This version was roughly compatible with UNIX SVR3.
BTW: Probably "X Window" (the X Window System) is meant above,
not "X Windows".
BTDT: it was known as "X Windows", not "X Window".
But officially, it was (and still is) "X" or "The X Window System".
(I've been seeing a lot of folks refer to it as "X Window"
on Usenet lately -- you kids get off my lawn!)
BTDT: it was known as "X Windows", not "X Window".
But officially, it was (and still is) "X" or "The X Window System".
In article <utsq5g$14tqr$2@dont-email.me>, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
On 25 Mar 2024 06:54:48 GMT, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote in ><X-20240325075426@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>:
Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote or quoted:
COHERENT version 4 was released in May of 1992 for $100 (around $219
in 2024). This version made COHERENT a fully 32 bit operating system >>>and required at least an Intel 80386 CPU and 1MB of RAM. This version >>>also brought official support for X Windows and MGR to COHERENT for
the first time. This version was roughly compatible with UNIX SVR3.
BTW: Probably "X Window" (the X Window System) is meant above,
not "X Windows".
BTDT: it was known as "X Windows", not "X Window".
But officially, it was (and still is) "X" or "The X Window System".
(I've been seeing a lot of folks refer to it as "X Window"
on Usenet lately -- you kids get off my lawn!)
I thought it was the windows system known as X?
... but the Linux juggernaut got too much for MWC :(
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 12:23:58 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:
... but the Linux juggernaut got too much for MWC :(
I wonder how you could call a rag-tag bunch of volunteers a
“juggernaut” ...
On 2024-03-28, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 12:23:58 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:
... but the Linux juggernaut got too much for MWC :(
I wonder how you could call a rag-tag bunch of volunteers a
“juggernaut” ...
One could argue that Linux ate commercial *nix's lunch.
On 2024-03-28, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 12:23:58 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:
... but the Linux juggernaut got too much for MWC :(
I wonder how you could call a rag-tag bunch of volunteers a
“juggernaut” ...
One could argue that Linux ate commercial *nix's lunch.
Linux (free of cost) plus the rather rapid performance increases of the
Intel x86 arch over those years were what ate commerical Unix's lunch.
When one could buy a commodity x86 system for a couple grand, which had
more compute performance than a five or six figure unix workstation,
and get 'Unix' (Linux) on the x86 for free, the commerical unix
workstation vendors no longer had a market they could sell into.
One, without the other, would not have had the same devastating effect
on the unix workstation market.
Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> writes:
The Mark Williams Company
And the COHERENT operating system
=================================
Feb 17, 2024
Thanks for writing. And for posting. I had never heard of COHERENT.
The Mark Williams Company
And the COHERENT operating system
=================================
Feb 17, 2024
Linux (free of cost) plus the rather rapid performance increases of the
Intel x86 arch over those years were what ate commerical Unix's lunch.
When one could buy a commodity x86 system for a couple grand ...
I think XFree86 was the final piece of the puzzle.
In article <uu2ob8$3bcot$2@dont-email.me>, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: >>Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> wrote:
On 2024-03-28, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 12:23:58 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:
... but the Linux juggernaut got too much for MWC :(
I wonder how you could call a rag-tag bunch of volunteers a
“juggernaut” ...
One could argue that Linux ate commercial *nix's lunch.
Linux (free of cost) plus the rather rapid performance increases of the >>Intel x86 arch over those years were what ate commerical Unix's lunch.
When one could buy a commodity x86 system for a couple grand, which had >>more compute performance than a five or six figure unix workstation,
and get 'Unix' (Linux) on the x86 for free, the commerical unix
workstation vendors no longer had a market they could sell into.
One, without the other, would not have had the same devastating effect
on the unix workstation market.
I remember vividly back in the mid-late 90's a sysadmin I knew
showing me a COTS PC running Linux; nothing I hadn't seen before
but he made an offhand comment that blew me away: "Yeah, it's
about half the speed of a SPARCstation-whatever, but a quarter
of the cost."
That's when I knew Linux on x86 had won.
- Dan C.
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