Dear comp.miscers,
Does anyone of you know of a modern single board computer with wireless,
hdmi out and with the same form factor as the raspberry pi 3a?
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB
or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
Dear comp.miscers,
Does anyone of you know of a modern single board computer with wireless,
hdmi out and with the same form factor as the raspberry pi 3a?
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB
or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
Best regards,
Daniel
Does anyone of you know of a modern single board computer with wireless,
hdmi out and with the same form factor as the raspberry pi 3a?
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB
or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB
or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Does anyone of you know of a modern single board computer with wireless,
hdmi out and with the same form factor as the raspberry pi 3a?
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB >> or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
No USB will be tricky, that's one of the most common features for
modern SBCs. Is it due to some security concern that USB and
Ethernet can't be available in any form? Or do you just want a
thinner board than the RPi 3a, without the connectors sticking up?
If it's the latter then the RPi Zero 2W fits the bill, except that
it has a different footprint to the RPi 3.
If you can't have USB at all and it has to be the same footprint as
the RPi 3a, then that's a difficult ask.
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 22:01:00 +0100, D wrote:
Dear comp.miscers,
Does anyone of you know of a modern single board computer with wireless,
hdmi out and with the same form factor as the raspberry pi 3a?
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB >> or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
Best regards,
Daniel
idk lol https://hackerboards.com/?formfactor=Raspberry+Pi&video_hdmi_slots=1&wireless_wifi_onboard=Ok
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Dear comp.miscers,
Does anyone of you know of a modern single board computer with wireless,
hdmi out and with the same form factor as the raspberry pi 3a?
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB >> or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
A jail-broken Amazon 'fire tv' stick?
D wrote:
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB >> or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
RPi compute module? https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/compute-module-4/?variant=raspberry-pi-cm4001000
-jw-
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024, George Musk wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 22:01:00 +0100, D wrote:
Dear comp.miscers,
Does anyone of you know of a modern single board computer with wireless, >>> hdmi out and with the same form factor as the raspberry pi 3a?
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB >>> or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
Best regards,
Daniel
idk lol
https://hackerboards.com/?formfactor=Raspberry+Pi&video_hdmi_slots=1&wireless_wifi_onboard=Ok
Sadly too big. =( So far the Firestick idea is the winner I think.
The space where I have my
raspberry 3a+ is very tight, so a 3a+ fits, but nothing bigger than
that. So the reason for not having USB+ethernet is that it makes the
board thinner and it will fit.
The Zero would be perfect, but it is under powered for my purposes. The
3a+ _barely_ works, so having something similar to a 4a+ or 5a+ would be perfect.
D wrote:
The space where I have my raspberry 3a+ is very tight, so a 3a+ fits, but
nothing bigger than that. So the reason for not having USB+ethernet is that >> it makes the board thinner and it will fit.
The Zero would be perfect, but it is under powered for my purposes. The 3a+ >> _barely_ works, so having something similar to a 4a+ or 5a+ would be
perfect.
De-solder the USB/Eth ports from a Pi4 or 5 ?
On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 11:02:43 +0100, D wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024, George Musk wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 22:01:00 +0100, D wrote:
Dear comp.miscers,
Does anyone of you know of a modern single board computer with wireless, >>>> hdmi out and with the same form factor as the raspberry pi 3a?
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB >>>> or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
Best regards,
Daniel
idk lol
https://hackerboards.com/?formfactor=Raspberry+Pi&video_hdmi_slots=1&wireless_wifi_onboard=Ok
Sadly too big. =( So far the Firestick idea is the winner I think.
There are some smaller ones if you omit formfactor search filter https://hackerboards.com/?video_hdmi_slots=1&wireless_wifi_onboard=Ok
On Sun, 3 Mar 2024, Andy Burns wrote:
De-solder the USB/Eth ports from a Pi4 or 5 ?
That is one option but I do not have the equipment. I thought about
just using a dremel to cut them off, do you think that would work?
Or does it have to be de-soldered?
Hello, the reason is the form factor. The space where I have my raspberry
3a+ is very tight, so a 3a+ fits, but nothing bigger than that. So the
reason for not having USB+ethernet is that it makes the board thinner and
it will fit.
The Zero would be perfect, but it is under powered for my purposes. The
3a+ _barely_ works, so having something similar to a 4a+ or 5a+ would be >perfect.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Hello, the reason is the form factor. The space where I have my raspberry
3a+ is very tight, so a 3a+ fits, but nothing bigger than that. So the
reason for not having USB+ethernet is that it makes the board thinner and
it will fit.
There's no reason you can't just desolder the USB and Ethernet jacks to reduce the height a bit
The Zero would be perfect, but it is under powered for my purposes. The
3a+ _barely_ works, so having something similar to a 4a+ or 5a+ would be
perfect.
I like the Zero a lot but agreed it is not super fast. But then, I liked
the Beaglebone a lot, and those seem to have disappeared.
--scott
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Sun, 3 Mar 2024, Andy Burns wrote:
De-solder the USB/Eth ports from a Pi4 or 5 ?
That is one option but I do not have the equipment. I thought about
just using a dremel to cut them off, do you think that would work?
Or does it have to be de-soldered?
If you are not interested in ever returning it to original spec, and
provided you do not dremel into the PC board itself, cutting off the
ports mechanically (demel) is no different than via heat (desolder).
The danger is it will be all too easy for a small slip to slice into
the board, and /possibly/ cut a critical inner trace that happens to
run under/nearby the usb/ethernet ports. This of course is only
important if critical traces on inner layers run under/nearby either
port. Something we don't know without a PCB layout diagram.
"Dremeling" off the ports seems easier than de-soldering them.
On Sun, 3 Mar 2024, Rich wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
On Sun, 3 Mar 2024, Andy Burns wrote:
De-solder the USB/Eth ports from a Pi4 or 5 ?
That is one option but I do not have the equipment. I thought
about just using a dremel to cut them off, do you think that would
work? Or does it have to be de-soldered?
If you are not interested in ever returning it to original spec, and
provided you do not dremel into the PC board itself, cutting off the
ports mechanically (demel) is no different than via heat (desolder).
The danger is it will be all too easy for a small slip to slice into
the board, and /possibly/ cut a critical inner trace that happens to
run under/nearby the usb/ethernet ports. This of course is only
important if critical traces on inner layers run under/nearby either
port. Something we don't know without a PCB layout diagram.
Hmm, interesting. So this might also be a good option. "Dremeling"
off the ports seems easier than de-soldering them.
D wrote:
"Dremeling" off the ports seems easier than de-soldering them.
Using a "disposable" pair of diagonal cutters would be safer.
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Hmm, interesting. So this might also be a good option. "Dremeling"
off the ports seems easier than de-soldering them.
Ah, no, desoldering is by far the easier way. But "desolder" does
require you have at a minimum an iron and desolder braid.
Dremeling them away will be by far much more difficult overall. It
will achieve the same end result, if done carefully enough, but it will requre by far more care to not damage something else in the process.
The Radxa Zero (https://hackerboards.com/board/radxa-radxa-zero) looks exactly like what I'm looking for! =)
Now the last step is to find a reputable store somewhere that sells one,
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
The Radxa Zero (https://hackerboards.com/board/radxa-radxa-zero) looks
exactly like what I'm looking for! =)
Yes that's the most powerful Pi Zero clone around at the moment.
Now the last step is to find a reputable store somewhere that sells one,
They're stocked by RS Components who are very reputable, although
they're aimed at selling to businesses:
UK - https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rock-sbc-boards/2564696
USA - https://us.rs-online.com/product/okdo/rs107-d1e0h0w15/74907427/
Other distributors are listed at the end of this article: https://linuxgizmos.com/affordable-radxa-zero-3w-featuring-up-to-8gb-ram-and-onboard-emmc-storage/
On Sat, 2 Mar 2024, Rich wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
Dear comp.miscers,
Does anyone of you know of a modern single board computer with wireless, >>> hdmi out and with the same form factor as the raspberry pi 3a?
I'm looking for a board that is as small as possible and does not have USB >>> or ethernet ports. Only hdmi and wireless for networking.
A jail-broken Amazon 'fire tv' stick?
Never thought of that! I will definitely look into this. Thank you very
much.
Best regards,
Daniel
On Sun, 4 Mar 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
The Radxa Zero (https://hackerboards.com/board/radxa-radxa-zero) looks
exactly like what I'm looking for! =)
Yes that's the most powerful Pi Zero clone around at the moment.
Now the last step is to find a reputable store somewhere that sells one,
They're stocked by RS Components who are very reputable, although
they're aimed at selling to businesses:
UK - https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rock-sbc-boards/2564696
USA - https://us.rs-online.com/product/okdo/rs107-d1e0h0w15/74907427/
Other distributors are listed at the end of this article:
https://linuxgizmos.com/affordable-radxa-zero-3w-featuring-up-to-8gb-ram-and-onboard-emmc-storage/
Done! Radxa was the winner in the end! Found a store I bought from before
and they had 12 in stock, so I bought a Radxa with 4 Gb RAM and 16 GB
storage for about 90 EUR! =)
Will be very exciting to see if I'll be able to install raspbian (or equivalent) + kodi in as quick and smooth a way as it was to get it going
on Radpberry pi.
I'm a little bit worried that there will be some HW incompatibilities or
that raspbian/equivalent won't run for some reason, but we'll see in 1-2 weeks depending on delivery time.
Thank you very much for the recommendation! Been waiting for this a long time!
Best regards,
Daniel
D <nospam@example.net> wrote at 10:36 this Monday (GMT):
On Sun, 4 Mar 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
The Radxa Zero (https://hackerboards.com/board/radxa-radxa-zero) looks >>>> exactly like what I'm looking for! =)
Yes that's the most powerful Pi Zero clone around at the moment.
Now the last step is to find a reputable store somewhere that sells one, >>>They're stocked by RS Components who are very reputable, although
they're aimed at selling to businesses:
UK - https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rock-sbc-boards/2564696
USA - https://us.rs-online.com/product/okdo/rs107-d1e0h0w15/74907427/
Other distributors are listed at the end of this article:
https://linuxgizmos.com/affordable-radxa-zero-3w-featuring-up-to-8gb-ram-and-onboard-emmc-storage/
Done! Radxa was the winner in the end! Found a store I bought from before
and they had 12 in stock, so I bought a Radxa with 4 Gb RAM and 16 GB
storage for about 90 EUR! =)
Will be very exciting to see if I'll be able to install raspbian (or
equivalent) + kodi in as quick and smooth a way as it was to get it going
on Radpberry pi.
I'm a little bit worried that there will be some HW incompatibilities or
that raspbian/equivalent won't run for some reason, but we'll see in 1-2
weeks depending on delivery time.
Thank you very much for the recommendation! Been waiting for this a long
time!
Best regards,
Daniel
Good luck! Let us know if it works well.
On Sun, 3 Mar 2024, Joerg Walther wrote:
RPi compute module?
But how does that work? Doesn't it require a carrier board that increases
the size? And I would then have to buy a carrier board with hdmi?
I'm sure you will hear if I manage to scratch this itch! ;) If it works, I think it will also become my bastion host for sharing the files on my NAS with "the world". My current raspberry pi 3a+ is too overloaded with kodi
to make for a good bastion, but this one has 4 GB of ram and 4 cores, so I hope it will significantly speed up access.
Can't wait until it is delivered!
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
I'm sure you will hear if I manage to scratch this itch! ;) If it works, I >> think it will also become my bastion host for sharing the files on my NAS
with "the world". My current raspberry pi 3a+ is too overloaded with kodi
to make for a good bastion, but this one has 4 GB of ram and 4 cores, so I >> hope it will significantly speed up access.
Can't wait until it is delivered!
You can't run Raspberry Pi OS on these boards, since they have a different chip.
Support for these third party boards is often patchy - typically the vendors throw up an OS image on Google Drive and call it done (never getting any updates).
Since the 3W is new the vendor images are quite recent so you may be OK, but don't expect them to support it long term (eg port to newer Debian/Ubuntu releases).
Armbian is trying to make it a nicer experience, but it appears they don't support the Radxa Zero 3W. Maybe that will change in time.
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