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  • Re: waiting forever for the Cloudflare check

    From SH@21:1/5 to John McCue on Mon Oct 9 19:10:21 2023
    On 09/10/2023 19:06, John McCue wrote:
    Follow-ups trimmed to comp.misc

    In comp.misc Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote:
    <snip>

    It's the first time ever that I have seen this cloudflare thing
    and had to declare I wasn't a robot!!!!

    Lucky you, I have been getting that from them for over a year.
    Sometimes I am graced with a captha.

    How prevalent is it? I've tried deleting cookies etc and NOT managed
    to get it to ask again. Anyone explain?

    I do not know how cloudflare works, but if I get it I just
    bail, thinking going to that WEB Site is not worth my time.

    Now the interesting thing, I never get Cloudflare when I log
    into my Bank's site. That alone tells be Cloudflare is
    doing something I believe is something you would not want
    them to do. I almost suspect Cloudflare is examining your
    browser cache and maybe cookies. Yes I put my tinfoil hat
    on when Cloudflare prompts me :)




    cloudflare actually run some DNS as well, on 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 and
    provide websites with defences against DDoS attacks.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com on Sun Oct 29 17:37:48 2023
    John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> wrote:
    followups trimed to only: comp.misc
    In comp.misc Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    <snip>

    Does your bank use Cloudflare for caching at all? If they don't use it,
    you won't have any issues with it.

    I do not do any real on-line banking, I only login once per
    month to get the statement.

    That's nice but irrelvant. Do they cache with cloudflare?

    Cloudflare is likely setting cookies in your browser in order to keep track >> of connections, since you might have nultiple cloudflare-cached websites
    open at the same time.

    Cloudflare is not examining your browser cache, it is in part replacing it.

    You are probably correct, but the real question is "How can
    we prove it ?". Luckily OpenBSD has pledge(2) and unveil(2),
    so what ever Cloudflare examine is very limited :)

    You can read Cloudflare's documentation for their customers which explains
    how their caching system works and why web providers would want to employ
    it. It's all very well-documented. I have not read their stuff about
    cookie management since I have mostly been interested in how they determine which site you are trying to access through their system and how they make
    sure they send you the right website.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From John McCue@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Tue Oct 31 19:21:13 2023
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> wrote:
    followups trimed to only: comp.misc
    In comp.misc Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    <snip>

    Does your bank use Cloudflare for caching at all? If they don't use it, >>> you won't have any issues with it.

    I do not do any real on-line banking, I only login once per
    month to get the statement.

    That's nice but irrelvant. Do they cache with cloudflare?

    I have no idea, I do not get Cloudflare capthas from cloudflare
    when I go to the site. That is a big plus for me.

    <snip>

    --
    [t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
    - Paraphrasing Star Wars

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