• Re: Recent spam on comp.lang.c (was Re: bart again (UCX64))

    From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Dan Purgert on Fri Sep 8 08:36:02 2023
    On 9/8/23 08:32, Dan Purgert wrote:
    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.lang.c.]
    On 2023-09-08, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

    [...] People on comp.misc don't bite , I promise.

    ... much ;)


    Oh no!
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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 8 14:06:16 2023
    On 2023-09-08, candycanearter07 wrote:
    On 9/8/23 08:32, Dan Purgert wrote:
    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.lang.c.]
    On 2023-09-08, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

    [...] People on comp.misc don't bite , I promise.

    ... much ;)


    Oh no!

    Se you posted that with tbird. Did you give up on that BBS-as-usenet
    client?


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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Fri Sep 8 13:32:03 2023
    XPost: comp.lang.c

    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.lang.c.]
    On 2023-09-08, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

    [...] People on comp.misc don't bite , I promise.

    ... much ;)


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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Dan Purgert on Fri Sep 8 18:32:37 2023
    On 9/8/23 09:06, Dan Purgert wrote:
    Se you posted that with tbird. Did you give up on that BBS-as-usenet
    client?


    Ye, I didn't know where to find a Usenet server. Tbird just looks nicer ^^

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Sat Sep 9 09:42:51 2023
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:

    On 9/8/23 09:06, Dan Purgert wrote:
    Se you posted that with tbird. Did you give up on that BBS-as-usenet client?


    Ye, I didn't know where to find a Usenet server. Tbird just looks nicer ^^


    It certainly looks much nicer here!

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  • From Anton Shepelev@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 13:54:34 2023
    candycanearter07:

    Tbird just looks nicer

    If you care, try any GNKSA-compliant[1] newsreader. If you
    are on Windows, I personally recommend XNews:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20141227184804/http://xnews.newsguy.com/

    This being an old program, Windows might blur its windows
    using the ugly high-DPI upscaling mechanism, which should be
    turned off for XNews in the label properties or manifest
    file.

    `slrn' is a cross-platform text-mode newsreader, works on
    Windows:
    https://www.slrn.org/
    ____________________
    1. https://web.archive.org/web/20160417105503/http://www.gnksa.org/gnksa.txt

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Anton Shepelev on Sat Sep 9 12:10:48 2023
    Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> wrote:

    candycanearter07:

    Tbird just looks nicer

    If you care, try any GNKSA-compliant[1] newsreader. If you
    are on Windows, I personally recommend XNews:

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20141227184804/http://xnews.newsguy.com/>


    Many Newsreaders have been abandoned by their authors, but Gravity
    is a Windows GUI 'reader still being actively supported. Find it here:

    <https://www.grc.com/freepopular.htm>





    This being an old program, Windows might blur its windows
    using the ugly high-DPI upscaling mechanism, which should be
    turned off for XNews in the label properties or manifest
    file.

    `slrn' is a cross-platform text-mode newsreader, works on
    Windows:
    https://www.slrn.org/
    ____________________
    1. https://web.archive.org/web/20160417105503/http://www.gnksa.org/gnksa.txt


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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 16:04:58 2023
    On 9/9/23 06:10, Sn!pe wrote:
    Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> wrote:

    candycanearter07:

    Tbird just looks nicer

    If you care, try any GNKSA-compliant[1] newsreader. If you
    are on Windows, I personally recommend XNews:

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20141227184804/http://xnews.newsguy.com/>


    Many Newsreaders have been abandoned by their authors, but Gravity
    is a Windows GUI 'reader still being actively supported. Find it here:

    <https://www.grc.com/freepopular.htm>





    This being an old program, Windows might blur its windows
    using the ugly high-DPI upscaling mechanism, which should be
    turned off for XNews in the label properties or manifest
    file.

    `slrn' is a cross-platform text-mode newsreader, works on
    Windows:
    https://www.slrn.org/
    ____________________
    1. https://web.archive.org/web/20160417105503/http://www.gnksa.org/gnksa.txt



    I'm on Linux, but thanks. I'll check out slrn.

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to no@thanks.net on Sat Sep 9 22:33:45 2023
    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:

    On 9/9/23 06:10, Sn!pe wrote:
    Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> wrote:

    candycanearter07:

    Tbird just looks nicer

    If you care, try any GNKSA-compliant[1] newsreader. If you
    are on Windows, I personally recommend XNews:

    <https://web.archive.org/web/20141227184804/http://xnews.newsguy.com/>


    Many Newsreaders have been abandoned by their authors, but Gravity
    is a Windows GUI 'reader still being actively supported. Find it here:

    <https://www.grc.com/freepopular.htm>





    This being an old program, Windows might blur its windows
    using the ugly high-DPI upscaling mechanism, which should be
    turned off for XNews in the label properties or manifest
    file.

    `slrn' is a cross-platform text-mode newsreader, works on
    Windows:
    https://www.slrn.org/
    ____________________
    <1.
    <https://web.archive.org/web/20160417105503/http://www.gnksa.org/gnksa.txt>


    I'm on Linux, but thanks. I'll check out slrn.


    Pan is often the GUI choice for Linux users.

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  • From Lafe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 11 03:23:23 2023
    On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 22:33:45 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

    candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
    <snips>
    I'm on Linux, but thanks. I'll check out slrn.

    Pan is often the GUI choice for Linux users.

    As windows user that has used XNews, slrn, Gravity (by GRC), and Pan for Windows, I'll add that all of these clients are excellent, but each has
    their own weaknesses. I was affected by the bugs for Pan for Windows that result in the various panes being turned black and becoming unusable.

    XNews would be my perfect newsreader, but it's so dated now, and can't
    handle more modern usages well, such as double-byte character sets
    (unicode, utf8). Also, no modern tls. (yes, I'm aware of stunnel
    approaches, but I'm also lazy)

    slrn I think of more as an "online" reader. It's ability to hold onto downloaded bodies and show them intelligently in a "show full threads with
    new messages" sort of way is... doable but awkward. I acutally kind of
    like that it's a console-only client, but for my normal usage it's just slightly clunky. It's also 'almost' perfect, and I still use it regularly
    when I get bored and read usenet over ssh from work (or other places I
    probably shouldn't). Also no modern tls.

    Gravity by GRC has been updated *just enough* to be viable, but it departs
    from the truly excellent scorefile approach shared by xnews/slrn/pan. It's perfectly usable, but its overall philosophy is really "one reader, one
    news server". It lacks the same *easy* mutlti-server/identity flexibility
    of the other clients.

    Each of these clients have their own "approach". I like all of them, and
    have used each extensively.

    Ultimately, recently, I have landed on Pan for Linux, but using WSL2
    (windows subsystem for Linux) under Windows 11, which lets me use Pan for
    linux on a windows machine. It does not suffer from the same bugs that the
    2019 build of Pan for Windows does. And I am happiest with this, for now!

    Pan is an excellent gui, supports modern TLS, handles multi-identity, multi-server, and handles unicode just fine. It also tries to add a GUI in front of the score file, but I prefer to edit that manually, and it
    supports it fantastically. I'd move to Pan for Windows again if an updated build fixed the bugs for me, to avoid the cost of virtualization, but
    honestly WSL2 is good enough that I'm ok with the tradeoffs for now
    (haven't yet figured out how to make links clickable... gnome link
    handlers aren't integerated with my windows browser, but I don't care that much, the clipboard is seamless so I can just copy/paste).

    I wish more effort was put into maintaining modern windows *text based* newsreaders these days. I'm not a binaries fellow. But for now this is
    working for me.

    Lafe

    ps - sorry, what was meant to be a quick follow up turned into a minor
    essay.

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