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    From Robert@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 5 19:51:40 2023
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    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Oregonian Haruspex@21:1/5 to Robert on Tue Sep 5 20:56:05 2023
    Robert <monstoor@spammedia.com> wrote:
    Evening all,

    <https://www.pcgamesn.com/postal/denuvo>

    Quote from the article:
    “The inclusion of intrusive DRM softwares [sic] like Denuvo is a choice that yields an unfair punishment on the consumer,” Running With Scissors says. “Respect the consumer, make a game they want to play, and you will never feel the need to fight piracy. The gaming industry deserves a
    better future, fight for that.”

    Cheers,

    Games are such horrid trash these days that I fail to see why anybody would play them, let alone go to the trouble of cracking them. I also feel it’s hilarious because Denuvo is (iirc) Windows only - why would you complain
    about a game being abusive toward you if you’ve already shown you don’t mind abuse by using Windows? We were warned decades ago to avoid
    proprietary software. Some of us listened.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From rdh@21:1/5 to Oregonian Haruspex on Wed Sep 6 00:11:35 2023
    On 9/5/23 15:56, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
    Games are such horrid trash these days that I fail to see why anybody would play them, let alone go to the trouble of cracking them.

    Well, aside from other people not being you, and thus having different
    opinions on what is and isn't trash, some people crack software for the
    fun of it.

    --
    ~rdh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 6 12:59:53 2023
    Am 05.09.2023 um 20:56:05 Uhr schrieb Oregonian Haruspex:

    Robert <monstoor@spammedia.com> wrote:
    Evening all,

    <https://www.pcgamesn.com/postal/denuvo>

    Quote from the article:
    “The inclusion of intrusive DRM softwares [sic] like Denuvo is a
    choice that yields an unfair punishment on the consumer,” Running
    With Scissors says. “Respect the consumer, make a game they want to
    play, and you will never feel the need to fight piracy. The gaming
    industry deserves a better future, fight for that.”

    Cheers,

    Games are such horrid trash these days that I fail to see why anybody
    would play them, let alone go to the trouble of cracking them.

    For some people the latter is the real challenge.

    We were warned decades ago to avoid proprietary software. Some of us listened.

    Most don't care even if Windows forces them to create MS accounts,
    display ads etc.
    Most people don't care when they are abused by software.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Robert@21:1/5 to Oregonian Haruspex on Wed Sep 6 22:18:17 2023
    On 05/09/2023 21:56, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:

    Games are such horrid trash these days that I fail to see why anybody would play them, let alone go to the trouble of cracking them.

    There are some excellent games out there, but not of the AAA variety.
    I'm currently really enjoying Baldur's Gate 3 via wine/Proton, but
    fortunately it has no DRM.

    Ironically, Denuvo works in wine/Proton but some of the cracks don't!

    Cheers,
    --
    Rob
    "I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational
    in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary
    to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From candycane@21:1/172 to Marco Moock on Wed Sep 6 19:53:56 2023
    Most don't care even if Windows forces them to create MS accounts,
    display ads etc.
    Most people don't care when they are abused by software.

    Path of least resistane is strong, and people are familiar with it / the company makes it as simple as possible

    ---------------
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

    ... I am NOT a tagline THIEF. I am a tagline CONSERVATIONIST.
    ___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52

    --- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
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  • From candycane@21:1/172 to Marco Moock on Thu Sep 7 08:10:45 2023
    Most don't care even if Windows forces them to create MS accounts,
    display ads etc.
    Most people don't care when they are abused by software.

    Path of least resistane is strong, and people are familiar with it / the company makes it as simple as possible

    ---------------
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

    ... I am NOT a tagline THIEF. I am a tagline CONSERVATIONIST.
    ___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52

    --- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: The Bottomless Abyss BBS * bbs.bottomlessabyss.net (21:1/172)