• email message will not wrap at edge of window

    From Alek@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 18 18:48:33 2017
    I get email messages from one person and they seem to be fixed line
    length. That is, if I shrink the window that has the message body, the
    message gets cut off at the edge of the window.

    What causes this?

    What can I tell this person to do so that her emails wrap?

    Thanks.

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to alek.trishan@gmail.com on Fri Oct 20 21:23:03 2017
    In comp.mail.misc, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
    I get email messages from one person and they seem to be fixed line
    length. That is, if I shrink the window that has the message body, the message gets cut off at the edge of the window.

    What causes this?

    Could be a bunch of things. What do the message headers (and part
    headers, if multipart) say? Is it text/plain with "format=fixed"?
    Or text/html with <pre> or what?

    What can I tell this person to do so that her emails wrap?

    MUA options are beyond my expertise.

    Elijah
    ------
    mailx is a fine program

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  • From Alek@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Sat Oct 21 14:29:20 2017
    Headers below:

    From - Wed Oct 18 11:01:56 2017
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    Return-Path: <srs0=bu76=br=associationvoice.com=messenger@bounce2.pobox.com> Delivered-To: xxxxx@comcast.net
    Received: from dovdir3-asa-04o.email.comcast.net ([69.252.207.28])
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    From: "Four Seasons at Mapleton HOA Inc" <Messenger@AssociationVoice.com>
    To: "xxxxx@pobox.com" <xxxxx@pobox.com>
    Reply-To: "xxxxx" <xxxxx@premiermanagement.net>
    Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 08:57:23 -0600
    Subject: Community Voice Alert System
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    Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
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    X-Mailer: aspNetEmail ver 3.7.0.0
    msg_id: 5525177
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    X-Pobox-Client-Name: ewrapp01.gh.associationvoice.com
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    Eli the Bearded wrote on 10/20/2017 5:23 PM:
    In comp.mail.misc, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
    I get email messages from one person and they seem to be fixed line
    length. That is, if I shrink the window that has the message body, the
    message gets cut off at the edge of the window.

    What causes this?

    Could be a bunch of things. What do the message headers (and part
    headers, if multipart) say? Is it text/plain with "format=fixed"?
    Or text/html with <pre> or what?

    What can I tell this person to do so that her emails wrap?

    MUA options are beyond my expertise.

    Elijah
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    mailx is a fine program


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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to alek.trishan@gmail.com on Sun Oct 22 00:04:00 2017
    In comp.mail.misc, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
    Headers below:
    ...
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="_=aspNetEmail=_4fbe7268c12542b1b9bec01e71d8ecde" --_=aspNetEmail=_4fbe7268c12542b1b9bec01e71d8ecde
    ...
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="utf-8"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Very ordinary headers, not sure why that would display funny.

    Do they used only non-breaking spaces or something crazy like that?

    Elijah
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  • From Alek@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Sat Oct 21 21:04:45 2017
    Eli the Bearded wrote on 10/21/2017 8:04 PM:
    In comp.mail.misc, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
    Headers below:
    ...
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="_=aspNetEmail=_4fbe7268c12542b1b9bec01e71d8ecde"
    --_=aspNetEmail=_4fbe7268c12542b1b9bec01e71d8ecde
    ...
    Content-Type: text/plain;
    charset="utf-8"
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Very ordinary headers, not sure why that would display funny.

    Do they used only non-breaking spaces or something crazy like that?

    Elijah
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    removed all the non-MIME headers


    Thanks, Eli. How could I tell if they used non-breaking spaces?

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to alek.trishan@gmail.com on Mon Oct 23 19:43:02 2017
    In comp.mail.misc, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
    Thanks, Eli. How could I tell if they used non-breaking spaces?

    In the HTML part it would look something like this:

    In&nbsp;the&nbsp;HTML&nbsp;part&nbsp;it&nbsp;would&nbsp;look&nbsp;something&nbsp;like&nbsp;this:

    In the text part it would have the Unicode character for non-breaking
    space, which is a lot harder to "see". Some sort of character
    deconstructor would work, like the "Show Unicode Character" tool at

    http://qaz.wtf/u/

    Just paste a line in, leaving the default "raw string" setting. It can
    tell you exactly which whitespace characters were used, and there are a
    lot of them:

    http://qaz.wtf/u/grep.cgi?grep=+space

    In practice, most are rarely used, but non-breaking and zero-width are
    fairly common. I see zero-width spaces often used to break up phrases to computer parsers while not visually breaking them for humans, things
    like "make this URL not get automatically linked" stuff.

    Elijah
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    but it could still be something else not yet thought of, like css rules

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 7 20:29:43 2017
    On
    10/18/2017
    04:48
    PM,
    Alek
    wrote:
    I get email messages from one person and they seem to be fixed line
    length. That is, if I shrink the window that has the message body, the message gets cut off at the edge of the window.

    What causes this?

    What can I tell this person to do so that her emails wrap?

    Based
    on
    the
    headers
    of
    your
    first
    reply
    to
    Eli,
    I
    am
    guessing
    that
    the
    sender
    (or
    thier
    mail
    system)
    is
    not
    using
    format=flowed
    text.

    I
    am
    typing
    my
    reply
    with
    one
    word
    per
    line,
    and
    letting
    format=flowed
    dynamically
    re-flow
    the
    message
    in
    your
    client.

    (Based
    on
    your
    User-Agent:
    header,
    you
    are
    using
    Thunderbird
    which
    should
    show
    this
    properly.)

    Research
    format=flowed
    for
    text
    messages.

    I
    love
    format=flowed
    and
    go
    out
    of
    my
    way
    to
    use
    it.



    --

    Grant.
    .
    .
    .
    unix
    ||
    die

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