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    From Nomen Nescio@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 31 14:09:51 2015
    There is an announcement on the (broken) safe-mail webpage stating
    that a quarter million e-mail accounts will be deleted for activities
    involving ToS violations.

    That's vague. I don't suppose any insiders or the like have an idea
    of what that's about?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Luuk@21:1/5 to Nomen Nescio on Sat Oct 31 16:49:52 2015
    On 31-10-15 14:09, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    There is an announcement on the (broken) safe-mail webpage stating
    that a quarter million e-mail accounts will be deleted for activities involving ToS violations.

    That's vague. I don't suppose any insiders or the like have an idea
    of what that's about?


    It's not vague,
    it says:
    ".... accounts that were involved in activity which violates the
    Safe-mail.net Agreement and policy."

    If you are a customer of them, you should have read this...

    I never read it..... (i'm not a customer of them ;)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Fritz Wuehler@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 1 17:31:49 2015
    It's not vague,
    it says:
    ".... accounts that were involved in activity which violates the Safe-mail.net Agreement and policy."

    If you are a customer of them, you should have read this...

    I never read it..... (i'm not a customer of them ;)

    Of course it's vague. Even if you have the ToS memorized word for
    word it's still vague. There are potentially 500+ ways to violate the
    ToS. And if just one of the clauses references law, then that one
    clause brings in hundreds of thousands of possible rules, each of
    which can be a breech of terms.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Nomen Nescio@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 3 08:54:53 2015
    In trying to work out how they ended up with 250,000 accounts in
    violation of their agreement, and stumbled upon this clause in their
    ToS:

    ===8<----------------------------------------
    Disguising the origin of transmitted content is prohibited. ---------------------------------------->8===

    Yikes! They don't block tor, and they offer service that is likely to
    attract tor users, but then they bar it in the ToS. This has to be
    the reason for so many account deletions. They keep a log of IP
    addresses used to access mail, so a simple script can be used to
    compare IP history with the published tor exit node list.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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