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"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> disait le 10/01/20 que :
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Ok let's double the article number for this month.
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Les simplifications c'est trop compliqué
1 1 XanaNews 1Ok let's double the article number for this month.
* Erwan David, 2020-10-01 17:47 UTC:
1 1 XanaNews 1Ok let's double the article number for this month.
Done.
Eike
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Anyone here want to discuss a GUI port od Mutt call Xmutt?
* The Doctor, 2020-10-02 14:36 UTC:
Anyone here want to discuss a GUI port od Mutt call Xmutt?
Hell no, not even if there was such thing.
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I disagree! Mutt needs to be ported to something like X-Windows or
M$ Windows.
On 2020-10-03, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
I disagree! Mutt needs to be ported to something like X-Windows or
M$ Windows.
Done!
#!/bin/bash
exec urxvt -e mutt "$@"
On Sat, 2020-10-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2020-10-03, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
I disagree! Mutt needs to be ported to something like X-Windows or
M$ Windows.
Done!
#!/bin/bash
exec urxvt -e mutt "$@"
Which raises the question what it /means/ to port mutt to X.
(And no, I'm not interested in discussing it, either. Although I
think it's on topic here.)
/Jorgen
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\X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
On 2020-10-03, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
I disagree! Mutt needs to be ported to something like X-Windows or
M$ Windows.
Done!
-----8<--------------- xmutt -----8<---------------
#!/bin/bash
exec urxvt -e mutt "$@"
-----8<---------------------------8<---------------
;)
In article <slrnrng9vh.1hpq.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>,
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
On Sat, 2020-10-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2020-10-03, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
I disagree! Mutt needs to be ported to something like X-Windows or
M$ Windows.
Done!
#!/bin/bash
exec urxvt -e mutt "$@"
Which raises the question what it /means/ to port mutt to X.
(And no, I'm not interested in discussing it, either. Although I
think it's on topic here.)
/Jorgen
Sepearte project so that mutt works in a GUI environment.
On 2020-10-03, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <slrnrng9vh.1hpq.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>,
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
On Sat, 2020-10-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2020-10-03, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
I disagree! Mutt needs to be ported to something like X-Windows or
M$ Windows.
Done!
#!/bin/bash
exec urxvt -e mutt "$@"
Which raises the question what it /means/ to port mutt to X.
(And no, I'm not interested in discussing it, either. Although I
think it's on topic here.)
/Jorgen
Sepearte project so that mutt works in a GUI environment.
It does. I always use mutt in a GUI environment. See above.
On Sat, 2020-10-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2020-10-03, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
In article <slrnrng9vh.1hpq.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>,
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
On Sat, 2020-10-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2020-10-03, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
I disagree! Mutt needs to be ported to something like X-Windows or >>>>>> M$ Windows.
Done!
#!/bin/bash
exec urxvt -e mutt "$@"
Which raises the question what it /means/ to port mutt to X.
(And no, I'm not interested in discussing it, either. Although I
think it's on topic here.)
/Jorgen
Sepearte project so that mutt works in a GUI environment.
It does. I always use mutt in a GUI environment. See above.
The alternative would be a rewrite which keeps the features of Mutt
(and the config file) but renders in an X11 window. And maybe adds
some features ... but I have a hard time to see which GUI features
could be just bolted on. Which is why I asked.
Compare with Emacs, which I use in X11 mode. That mode is like the
terminal mode, plus some silly menus which I have disabled. I only
use it for the slightly better key bindings, better default colors,
and some mouse integration.
/Jorgen
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\X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
On 2020-10-03, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
It does. I always use mutt in a GUI environment. See above.
The alternative would be a rewrite which keeps the features of Mutt
(and the config file) but renders in an X11 window. And maybe adds
some features ... but I have a hard time to see which GUI features
could be just bolted on. Which is why I asked.
The only "GUI" features that would matter to me are good HTML+CSS
rendering and an easy way to produce HTML e-mails. That could be a
WYSIWYG editor or something like built-in support for markdown. I
very rarely write e-mails in mutt, and now use it mainly as a way to
quickly scan my inbox to sort and delete stuff I don't need. Anything
that needs to be read and/or responded to then gets handled in a
different app.
I prefer paintext e-mail but that war has been lost. Nobody with whom
I exchange email can deal with plaintext (either receiving it or
sending it).
Compare with Emacs, which I use in X11 mode. That mode is like the
terminal mode, plus some silly menus which I have disabled. I only
use it for the slightly better key bindings, better default colors,
and some mouse integration.
Same here.
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Grant
It does. I always use mutt in a GUI environment. See above.
The alternative would be a rewrite which keeps the features of Mutt
(and the config file) but renders in an X11 window. And maybe adds
some features ... but I have a hard time to see which GUI features
could be just bolted on. Which is why I asked.
Compare with Emacs, which I use in X11 mode. That mode is like the
terminal mode, plus some silly menus which I have disabled. I only
use it for the slightly better key bindings, better default colors,
and some mouse integration.
On 2020-10-03, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
It does. I always use mutt in a GUI environment. See above.
The alternative would be a rewrite which keeps the features of Mutt
(and the config file) but renders in an X11 window. And maybe adds
some features ... but I have a hard time to see which GUI features
could be just bolted on. Which is why I asked.
The only "GUI" features that would matter to me are good HTML+CSS
rendering and an easy way to produce HTML e-mails. That could be a
WYSIWYG editor or something like built-in support for markdown. I
very rarely write e-mails in mutt, and now use it mainly as a way to
quickly scan my inbox to sort and delete stuff I don't need. Anything
that needs to be read and/or responded to then gets handled in a
different app.
I prefer paintext e-mail but that war has been lost. Nobody with whom
I exchange email can deal with plaintext (either receiving it or
sending it).
On Sat, 2020-10-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2020-10-03, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
It does. I always use mutt in a GUI environment. See above.
The alternative would be a rewrite which keeps the features of Mutt
(and the config file) but renders in an X11 window. And maybe adds
some features ... but I have a hard time to see which GUI features
could be just bolted on. Which is why I asked.
The only "GUI" features that would matter to me are good HTML+CSS
rendering and an easy way to produce HTML e-mails. That could be a
WYSIWYG editor or something like built-in support for markdown. I
very rarely write e-mails in mutt, and now use it mainly as a way to quickly scan my inbox to sort and delete stuff I don't need. Anything
that needs to be read and/or responded to then gets handled in a
different app.
I prefer paintext e-mail but that war has been lost. Nobody with whom
I exchange email can deal with plaintext (either receiving it or
sending it).
I can see that many cannot send text/plain, but how can they all fail
to /read/ it?
I happily send plain text mail, and have had no complaints[1].
The only problem I know about is MS Outlook, which by default is
configured to undo the formatting ("We removed some extra line
breaks").
And of course there's the related problem with quoting in responses,
but mainstream MUAs like Outlook simply don't have support for that.
/Jorgen
[1] Although I get very little real mail these days. Internet mail
seems to have deteriorated to a way for organizations to push out
non-vital notifications and newsletters.
Nobody with whom
I exchange email can deal with plaintext (either receiving it or
sending it).
* Grant Edwards, 2020-10-03 23:26 UTC:
Nobody with whom
I exchange email can deal with plaintext (either receiving it or
sending it).
? every email client can handle received plaintext emails.
On Sat, 2020-10-03, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2020-10-03, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
It does. I always use mutt in a GUI environment. See above.
The alternative would be a rewrite which keeps the features of Mutt
(and the config file) but renders in an X11 window. And maybe adds
some features ... but I have a hard time to see which GUI features
could be just bolted on. Which is why I asked.
The only "GUI" features that would matter to me are good HTML+CSS
rendering and an easy way to produce HTML e-mails. That could be a
WYSIWYG editor or something like built-in support for markdown. I
very rarely write e-mails in mutt, and now use it mainly as a way to
quickly scan my inbox to sort and delete stuff I don't need. Anything
that needs to be read and/or responded to then gets handled in a
different app.
I prefer paintext e-mail but that war has been lost. Nobody with whom
I exchange email can deal with plaintext (either receiving it or
sending it).
I can see that many cannot send text/plain, but how can they all fail
to /read/ it?
I happily send plain text mail, and have had no complaints[1].
The only problem I know about is MS Outlook,
On 2020-10-04, Eike Rathke <erack+nutznetz.o@posteo.de> wrote:
* Grant Edwards, 2020-10-03 23:26 UTC:
Nobody with whom
I exchange email can deal with plaintext (either receiving it or
sending it).
? every email client can handle received plaintext emails.
Sure, they can _receive_ it. But the Outlook often displays it in a
less that readable manner, and sending e-mails that are hard to read
and appear to be badly formatted is unprofessional and unacceptable
when I'm supposed to be a "computer person".
On 2020-10-04, Eike Rathke <erack+nutznetz.o@posteo.de> wrote:'Outside' in the real world (i.e. away from business) 99% of people
* Grant Edwards, 2020-10-03 23:26 UTC:
Nobody with whom
I exchange email can deal with plaintext (either receiving it or
sending it).
? every email client can handle received plaintext emails.
Sure, they can _receive_ it. But the Outlook often displays it in a
less that readable manner, and sending e-mails that are hard to read
and appear to be badly formatted is unprofessional and unacceptable
when I'm supposed to be a "computer person".
are reading their E-Mail on a phone of some sort. Outlook is no
longer the issue with nearly all of my recipients. The issue is a tiny
screen and a 'poke it with your squishy fingertips' user interface.
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