I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at inbox mail. All I see now is the From field. I have touched my options a few times recently, so maybe I munged something. Anyideas? Or is my memory faulty? I'd like to be able to see the To field and the subject.
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:06:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:ideas? Or is my memory faulty? I'd like to be able to see the To field and the subject.
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at inbox mail. All I see now is the From field. I have touched my options a few times recently, so maybe I munged something. Any
See PreviewHeaders on Page 459 of the manual.
--
Ajo Wissink
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:ideas? Or is my memory faulty? I'd like to be able to see the To field and the subject.
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:06:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at inbox mail. All I see now is the From field. I have touched my options a few times recently, so maybe I munged something. Any
See PreviewHeaders on Page 459 of the manual.
--
Ajo Wissink
I don't have a manual. Never did. Where would I find that?
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:30:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:ideas? Or is my memory faulty? I'd like to be able to see the To field and the subject.
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:06:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at inbox mail. All I see now is the From field. I have touched my options a few times recently, so maybe I munged something. Any
See PreviewHeaders on Page 459 of the manual.
--
Ajo Wissink
I don't have a manual. Never did. Where would I find that? https://fossies.org/windows/mail/eudora/Eudora_71_User_Manual.pdf
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:46:21 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:Any ideas? Or is my memory faulty? I'd like to be able to see the To field and the subject.
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:30:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:06:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at inbox mail. All I see now is the From field. I have touched my options a few times recently, so maybe I munged something.
https://fossies.org/windows/mail/eudora/Eudora_71_User_Manual.pdfSee PreviewHeaders on Page 459 of the manual.
--
Ajo Wissink
I don't have a manual. Never did. Where would I find that?
Ok, great! Thanks
I don't see a clear explanation of the syntax and I don't want to randomly poke at my .ini file. Would it be this?
PreviewHeaders=To:,From:,Subject:,Cc:
If a specified header is not present in the email, does that field get ignored or displayed blank?
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:31:51 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:Any ideas? Or is my memory faulty? I'd like to be able to see the To field and the subject.
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:46:21 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:30:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:06:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at inbox mail. All I see now is the From field. I have touched my options a few times recently, so maybe I munged something.
https://fossies.org/windows/mail/eudora/Eudora_71_User_Manual.pdfSee PreviewHeaders on Page 459 of the manual.
--
Ajo Wissink
I don't have a manual. Never did. Where would I find that?
Ok, great! Thanks
I don't see a clear explanation of the syntax and I don't want to randomly poke at my .ini file. Would it be this?
PreviewHeaders=To:,From:,Subject:,Cc:That would be fine. You don't have to go poking around in Eudora.ini.
You can do it with an X-Eudora-Option without the need to first close Eudora. Copy the following link and paste it in a new Eudora message.
<X-Eudora-Option:PreviewHeaders>
Save the message and click on the link while holding the Alt key. A
Change Option window will appear where you can edit the New Value
field with the headers you want to show.
If a specified header is not present in the email, does that field get ignored or displayed blank?I think you will only sea the chosen headers.
I don't know how your newsreader works. It is possible that it will
also work here. You can try to click the link in this message. It
works in my Agent.
[]I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be
more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at
Something is rotten in Denmark. I did as you suggested and the current >setting is the default which contains...
To:,Subject:,Cc:,Bcc:,X-Attachments:
Yet, the only thing I see is the From: field in the inbox. Other
mailboxes show From: To: and Subject: fields. There must be some other
I guess that's still not too bad for a program from 20 years ago! Back
then I was lucky if my computer ran for a day without crashing. I
recall Win95 could get into a condition where it would have trouble
running more than an hour before crashing. Windows has come a long way
since then and Eudora seems to keep right up with it! Amazing.
But my vision is nowhere near what it was 20 years ago. I wish it was
easier to adjust the size of text when editing a message. I have to
set the font size to large while typing and remember to set it back to
normal before sending. I forget 1 time in 10 or so. It must look odd
to the recipient to see such large text. Eudora also has issues
displaying some emails and has trouble making the quoted email readable
when replying.
Thanks for the help. This is a great community.
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 00:41:21, "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote (my responses usually follow
points raised):
[]
[]I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be
more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at
Something is rotten in Denmark. I did as you suggested and the current >setting is the default which contains...
To:,Subject:,Cc:,Bcc:,X-Attachments:
Yet, the only thing I see is the From: field in the inbox. OtherYou originally asked about the preview pane, now you're talking about
mailboxes show From: To: and Subject: fields. There must be some other
the inbox. I think they can have different headers showing.
I guess that's still not too bad for a program from 20 years ago! Back >then I was lucky if my computer ran for a day without crashing. IYes, great, isn't it! Though Pandora is worth a look: https://pandoramail.com/
recall Win95 could get into a condition where it would have trouble >running more than an hour before crashing. Windows has come a long way >since then and Eudora seems to keep right up with it! Amazing.
But my vision is nowhere near what it was 20 years ago. I wish it was >easier to adjust the size of text when editing a message. I have toI think Pandora, since it's still current, handles some modern mails
set the font size to large while typing and remember to set it back to >normal before sending. I forget 1 time in 10 or so. It must look odd
to the recipient to see such large text. Eudora also has issues
displaying some emails and has trouble making the quoted email readable >when replying.
better; not sure about the font size question though.
Why not switch to sending plain text? Then, you can (I think) play with
font size as seen by you when composing, but that setting will not be
sent in the email, so the recipient won't see it.
On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:41:33 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:Any ideas? Or is my memory faulty? I'd like to be able to see the To field and the subject.
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:31:51 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:46:21 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:30:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:06:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at inbox mail. All I see now is the From field. I have touched my options a few times recently, so maybe I munged something.
this limited before. Maybe I need to restart the program. Yes, that seems to have fixed it.That would be fine. You don't have to go poking around in Eudora.ini.https://fossies.org/windows/mail/eudora/Eudora_71_User_Manual.pdfSee PreviewHeaders on Page 459 of the manual.
--
Ajo Wissink
I don't have a manual. Never did. Where would I find that?
Ok, great! Thanks
I don't see a clear explanation of the syntax and I don't want to randomly poke at my .ini file. Would it be this?
PreviewHeaders=To:,From:,Subject:,Cc:
You can do it with an X-Eudora-Option without the need to first close
Eudora. Copy the following link and paste it in a new Eudora message.
<X-Eudora-Option:PreviewHeaders>
Save the message and click on the link while holding the Alt key. A
Change Option window will appear where you can edit the New Value
field with the headers you want to show.
If a specified header is not present in the email, does that field get ignored or displayed blank?I think you will only sea the chosen headers.
I don't know how your newsreader works. It is possible that it will
also work here. You can try to click the link in this message. It
works in my Agent.
Something is rotten in Denmark. I did as you suggested and the current setting is the default which contains...
To:,Subject:,Cc:,Bcc:,X-Attachments:
Yet, the only thing I see is the From: field in the inbox. Other mailboxes show From: To: and Subject: fields. There must be some other setting that is overriding this. As I mentioned this seems to have changed as I don't recall the In mailbox being
I guess that's still not too bad for a program from 20 years ago! Back then I was lucky if my computer ran for a day without crashing. I recall Win95 could get into a condition where it would have trouble running more than an hour before crashing.Windows has come a long way since then and Eudora seems to keep right up with it! Amazing.
But my vision is nowhere near what it was 20 years ago. I wish it was easier to adjust the size of text when editing a message. I have to set the font size to large while typing and remember to set it back to normal before sending. I forget 1 time in10 or so. It must look odd to the recipient to see such large text. Eudora also has issues displaying some emails and has trouble making the quoted email readable when replying.
Thanks for the help. This is a great community.
I don't recall if this is the redo of Thunderbird, so it is only like Eudora superficially. I tried using T-bird for reading newsgroups and it worked "ok"... just, but after using it for a year or two crapped out in a way I could not figure out how torecover from. I switched over to Seamonkey with is on the same code base and after a year that one also crapped out. So I'm not willing to trust my email to a program with such issues. Email is vital to me and my business.
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 6:10:40 AM UTC-5, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:[]
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 00:41:21, "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote (my responses usually follow
points raised):
[]
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be
more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at
Yet, the only thing I see is the From: field in the inbox. OtherYou originally asked about the preview pane, now you're talking about
mailboxes show From: To: and Subject: fields. There must be some other
the inbox. I think they can have different headers showing.
I am confused. What preview pane are you talking about? Maybe this is
just terminology. I'm talking about the preview pane for the inbox. My >Eudora is set up so every mailbox has a preview pane. What setup are
you referring to?
I guess that's still not too bad for a program from 20 years ago! BackYes, great, isn't it! Though Pandora is worth a look:
then I was lucky if my computer ran for a day without crashing. I
recall Win95 could get into a condition where it would have trouble
running more than an hour before crashing. Windows has come a long way
since then and Eudora seems to keep right up with it! Amazing.
https://pandoramail.com/
I don't recall if this is the redo of Thunderbird, so it is only like
Eudora superficially.
I tried using T-bird for reading newsgroups and it worked "ok"...
just, but after using it for a year or two crapped out in a way I could
not figure out how to recover from. I switched over to Seamonkey with
is on the same code base and after a year that one also crapped out.
So I'm not willing to trust my email to a program with such issues.
Email is vital to me and my business.
But my vision is nowhere near what it was 20 years ago. I wish it wasI think Pandora, since it's still current, handles some modern mails
easier to adjust the size of text when editing a message. I have to
set the font size to large while typing and remember to set it back to
normal before sending. I forget 1 time in 10 or so. It must look odd
to the recipient to see such large text. Eudora also has issues
displaying some emails and has trouble making the quoted email readable
when replying.
better; not sure about the font size question though.
Why not switch to sending plain text? Then, you can (I think) play with
font size as seen by you when composing, but that setting will not be
sent in the email, so the recipient won't see it.
I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe that's what I am doing. I know I've
made the mistake of forgetting to remove the formatting before sending
and it seems to now show up on replies. I like Eudora a lot, but it
does have various issues like this where it does unintuitive things.
Things like Gmail may change according to the whims of the developer
but it is always easy to use and intuitive. I don't think I've ever
lost an email through Gmail either. I did loose an important email in
Eudora once in 20 years, so not too bad. Now I forward emails through
Gmail so that creates a backup copy always without effort on my part.
Just no records of my outbox. So I still backup my Eudora mailboxes,
all 4 GB.
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 00:41:21 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:something. Any ideas? Or is my memory faulty? I'd like to be able to see the To field and the subject.
On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:41:33 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:31:51 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:46:21 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:30:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:06:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" >> >> >> <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at inbox mail. All I see now is the From field. I have touched my options a few times recently, so maybe I munged
this limited before. Maybe I need to restart the program. Yes, that seems to have fixed it.That would be fine. You don't have to go poking around in Eudora.ini.https://fossies.org/windows/mail/eudora/Eudora_71_User_Manual.pdfSee PreviewHeaders on Page 459 of the manual.
--
Ajo Wissink
I don't have a manual. Never did. Where would I find that?
Ok, great! Thanks
I don't see a clear explanation of the syntax and I don't want to randomly poke at my .ini file. Would it be this?
PreviewHeaders=To:,From:,Subject:,Cc:
You can do it with an X-Eudora-Option without the need to first close
Eudora. Copy the following link and paste it in a new Eudora message.
<X-Eudora-Option:PreviewHeaders>
Save the message and click on the link while holding the Alt key. A
Change Option window will appear where you can edit the New Value
field with the headers you want to show.
If a specified header is not present in the email, does that field get ignored or displayed blank?I think you will only sea the chosen headers.
I don't know how your newsreader works. It is possible that it will
also work here. You can try to click the link in this message. It
works in my Agent.
Something is rotten in Denmark. I did as you suggested and the current setting is the default which contains...
To:,Subject:,Cc:,Bcc:,X-Attachments:
Yet, the only thing I see is the From: field in the inbox. Other mailboxes show From: To: and Subject: fields. There must be some other setting that is overriding this. As I mentioned this seems to have changed as I don't recall the In mailbox being
Aha..! Now that we know that you have other mailboxes which don't
behave in the same way the explanation for your problem is simple. You
have been using the Content Concentrator which can be individually set
for each mailbox. Your In mailbox was set for "terse" and the other
one for "compact". (The 3 choices are none, terse and compact). You
can change the setting at the bottom of the mailbox, to the right of
the box with the 3 or 4 numbers. If you don't want to use the Content Concentrator you can change that in the Options.
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 11:10:41, "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote (my responses usually follow
points raised):
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 6:10:40 AM UTC-5, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >> On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 00:41:21, "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"[]
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote (my responses usually follow
points raised):
[]
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be >> >> >> >> >more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at
Yet, the only thing I see is the From: field in the inbox. Otherthe inbox. I think they can have different headers showing.
mailboxes show From: To: and Subject: fields. There must be some other >> You originally asked about the preview pane, now you're talking about
I am confused. What preview pane are you talking about? Maybe this is
just terminology. I'm talking about the preview pane for the inbox. My >Eudora is set up so every mailbox has a preview pane. What setup are
you referring to?
Ah. I was confused whether you meant the headings you see in the preview pane, or the column headings in the inbox list of messages.
I guess that's still not too bad for a program from 20 years ago! Back >> >then I was lucky if my computer ran for a day without crashing. IYes, great, isn't it! Though Pandora is worth a look:
recall Win95 could get into a condition where it would have trouble
running more than an hour before crashing. Windows has come a long way >> >since then and Eudora seems to keep right up with it! Amazing.
https://pandoramail.com/
I don't recall if this is the redo of Thunderbird, so it is only like >Eudora superficially.Ah, "Eudora OSE" - open source edition. No, that was based on a very
early TB - about v5, I think. Unfortunately the superficiality didn't
extend to use by blind people. It has been abandoned anyway. No, Pandora appears to be a good attempt to retain as much of Eudora as possible -
do read the above page, though it does seem to have been written by a
fan.
I tried using T-bird for reading newsgroups and it worked "ok"...I see you're using "G2/1.0", which I think means Google Groups - surely that's worse than _any_ proper news client! If TB's no good for you, how about one of the others - Free Agent still has lots of followers (and
just, but after using it for a year or two crapped out in a way I could >not figure out how to recover from. I switched over to Seamonkey with
is on the same code base and after a year that one also crapped out.
may be of similar vintage to Eudora!).
So I'm not willing to trust my email to a program with such issues.OK.
Email is vital to me and my business.
For what it's worth: I told a blind friend of mine about Pandora, as I
knew she used Eudora but was aware of some recent problems (security certificates and the like). I think she had sorted those (might have
been the Hermes patch, I can't remember), but she was open to something
more modern; she tried Pandora, and likes it. (OK, she had teething
troubles - could receive but not send - but that was just a settings fiddle.)
But my vision is nowhere near what it was 20 years ago. I wish it wasI think Pandora, since it's still current, handles some modern mails
easier to adjust the size of text when editing a message. I have to
set the font size to large while typing and remember to set it back to >> >normal before sending. I forget 1 time in 10 or so. It must look odd
to the recipient to see such large text. Eudora also has issues
displaying some emails and has trouble making the quoted email readable >> >when replying.
better; not sure about the font size question though.
Why not switch to sending plain text? Then, you can (I think) play with >> font size as seen by you when composing, but that setting will not be
sent in the email, so the recipient won't see it.
I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe that's what I am doing. I know I'veIf you send plain text, that's what is sent - no size information is conveyed. In Eudora, I _think_ that's Tools | Options | Styled Text,
made the mistake of forgetting to remove the formatting before sending
and it seems to now show up on replies. I like Eudora a lot, but it
does have various issues like this where it does unintuitive things.
then ensure "Show formatting toolbar" is _un_ticked. To change the font _you_ see while composing, I _think_ it's Tools | Options | Fonts |
Screen. (Sorry to sound vague: I don't use Eudora myself, though I have
it installed to help others.)
Things like Gmail may change according to the whims of the developer
but it is always easy to use and intuitive. I don't think I've ever
lost an email through Gmail either. I did loose an important email in >Eudora once in 20 years, so not too bad. Now I forward emails through >Gmail so that creates a backup copy always without effort on my part.
Just no records of my outbox. So I still backup my Eudora mailboxes,
all 4 GB.
Probably worth shrinking that - can you save and then remove attachments
in Eudora?
Someone is supposedly working on getting Eudora up and running again in
a more modern development environment, but I haven't heard any news of >progress for ages. I think maybe it's going down for the third time.
Yeah, GG is the pits, but I barely use newsgroups anymore. The
technical groups here seem to have withered on the vine. This one is
one of the few sources of info on Eudora, so I hang around. I'm just
not interested in newsgroups enough to try to keep a reader working.
In general email is pretty simple. Once working it keeps working
unless the tools has issues like T-bird. The real problem with T-bird
was the near lack of support. It's just not worth the effort. GG
sucks totally, then sucked some more when they changed it again. I
would say each time they change it, it gets a little worse, but that
would be a lie, it got a LOT worse this last time. They strip out
multiple spaces between words so you can't sen ascii art, aka, text
based line drawings anymore on top of literally the worst UI I have
ever seen since pine.
It's hard to imaging Google practically owning the world and continuing
to make this interface worse every time they touch it!
The other day I was kindof bitching out my insurance company for having
their heads up their bureaucratic asses and actually said, "If Google
sold insurance they would make this easy". lol I say stuff like that
to my bank too. Banks don't understand the "online" part of online
banking. Anything past online 101 they want you to come into an
office. I guess these are two very conservative industries.
If you send plain text, that's what is sent - no size information is
conveyed. In Eudora, I _think_ that's Tools | Options | Styled Text,
then ensure "Show formatting toolbar" is _un_ticked. To change the font
_you_ see while composing, I _think_ it's Tools | Options | Fonts |
Screen. (Sorry to sound vague: I don't use Eudora myself, though I have
it installed to help others.)
I'd like to be able to send HTML which is what I think you are calling
"styled text" in order to preserve in my replies the HTML others have
sent. It is set for "both" on sending.
I changed the fonts to large under "message" and left it medium on
printer and screen. Is "screen" reading mail and "message" writing?
Just no records of my outbox. So I still backup my Eudora mailboxes,Probably worth shrinking that - can you save and then remove attachments
all 4 GB.
in Eudora?
Don't care. 4 GB is not so much. I have 8 GB in my work directory and
tons under the downloads folder which is 90% useful stuff... or at
least stuff I don't want to toss out for fear of making a mistake.
FOMM
Thanks for the help. It makes a difference.
On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 2:58:11 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:something. Any ideas? Or is my memory faulty? I'd like to be able to see the To field and the subject.
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 00:41:21 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:41:33 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:31:51 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:46:21 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:30:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com"
<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-5, Ajo Wissink wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:06:44 -0800 (PST), "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" >> >> >> >> <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
I may be having a brain cramp, but I thought there used to be more header info visible in the preview pane when looking at inbox mail. All I see now is the From field. I have touched my options a few times recently, so maybe I munged
this limited before. Maybe I need to restart the program. Yes, that seems to have fixed it.That would be fine. You don't have to go poking around in Eudora.ini.https://fossies.org/windows/mail/eudora/Eudora_71_User_Manual.pdfSee PreviewHeaders on Page 459 of the manual.
--
Ajo Wissink
I don't have a manual. Never did. Where would I find that?
Ok, great! Thanks
I don't see a clear explanation of the syntax and I don't want to randomly poke at my .ini file. Would it be this?
PreviewHeaders=To:,From:,Subject:,Cc:
You can do it with an X-Eudora-Option without the need to first close
Eudora. Copy the following link and paste it in a new Eudora message.
<X-Eudora-Option:PreviewHeaders>
Save the message and click on the link while holding the Alt key. A
Change Option window will appear where you can edit the New Value
field with the headers you want to show.
If a specified header is not present in the email, does that field get ignored or displayed blank?I think you will only sea the chosen headers.
I don't know how your newsreader works. It is possible that it will
also work here. You can try to click the link in this message. It
works in my Agent.
Something is rotten in Denmark. I did as you suggested and the current setting is the default which contains...
To:,Subject:,Cc:,Bcc:,X-Attachments:
Yet, the only thing I see is the From: field in the inbox. Other mailboxes show From: To: and Subject: fields. There must be some other setting that is overriding this. As I mentioned this seems to have changed as I don't recall the In mailbox being
Aha..! Now that we know that you have other mailboxes which don't
behave in the same way the explanation for your problem is simple. You
have been using the Content Concentrator which can be individually set
for each mailbox. Your In mailbox was set for "terse" and the other
one for "compact". (The 3 choices are none, terse and compact). You
can change the setting at the bottom of the mailbox, to the right of
the box with the 3 or 4 numbers. If you don't want to use the Content
Concentrator you can change that in the Options.
Would that have been reset by restarting the program? Is this not remembered by the program when changed in the drop down list in the window?
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 22:16:55, "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" ><gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote (my responses usually follow
points raised):
I'd like to be able to send HTML which is what I think you are calling
(Not me - Eudora calls it that.)
"styled text" in order to preserve in my replies the HTML others have
I see. I have no solution for that, I'm afraid!
sent. It is set for "both" on sending.
Which means I think that your emails contain both a plain text part and
an HTML part; however, you probably only get to see the HTML one while >composing, if you have it set!
I changed the fonts to large under "message" and left it medium on printer and screen. Is "screen" reading mail and "message" writing?
Don't care. 4 GB is not so much. I have 8 GB in my work directory and tons under the downloads folder which is 90% useful stuff... or at least stuff I don't want to toss out for fear of making a mistake. FOMM
Many sins have been blamed on Microsoft's code that displays the HTML,
but it's much worse than that. Eudora just munges anything other than
plain text when replying. In business emails people will cut and paste >things from spread sheets and word docs. Eudora displays them ok on
the inbound, but in a reply the text often becomes illegible.
I wonder if you could see things bigger by changing a setting in Windows
- there's something about percentage text size up to 125% or 150%;
Already done that. You would think that would help everthing, but it
seems this is just info for the applications and many ignore it. So
dialog boxes and image based icons often don't change.
whether that would work with Eudora, I don't know. Something that would
work of course would be reducing your screen resolution, but that's
drastic, and gives you less space to do everything. (Or same resolution
but a bigger monitor!)
Hard to make the laptop screen bigger. I have thought about getting a
four foot TV and hanging it from the ceiling about six feet away, but
that's still not bigger than my laptop in my... lap!
Don't care. 4 GB is not so much. I have 8 GB in my work directory andNot by modern standards, no. I was wondering if Eudora might be groaning
under it, but if it isn't, fine.
tons under the downloads folder which is 90% useful stuff... or atAh, if Eudora keeps attachments in a separate folder called downloads,
that's probably fine. (Though if that means you have 4 or 8 GB of
emails _excluding_ attachments, that's impressive!)
least stuff I don't want to toss out for fear of making a mistake.I don't toss out attachments, just take them out of emails.
Oddly enough Eudora puts all attachments in a directory called, >"attachments". Who'd have thought? Actually this creates some issues
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 22:16:55, "gnuarm.del...@gmail.com" <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote (my responses usually follow
points raised):
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Someone is supposedly working on getting Eudora up and running again in
a more modern development environment, but I haven't heard any news of >progress for ages. I think maybe it's going down for the third time.
Do give Pandora a look; I've just checker her last message, and my blind friend is still using it after her switch a week or three ago.
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Yeah, GG is the pits, but I barely use newsgroups anymore. TheI still get useful help in the Windows 'groups, and one I follow
technical groups here seem to have withered on the vine. This one is
(nominally about a radio soap, but now just a group of friends
[basically social media predating - it started in 1995! - all the
others], though we do still discuss the soap some of the time) is still pretty active. And one about broadcast technology is still well. But
yes, usenet is a shadow of what it once was.
one of the few sources of info on Eudora, so I hang around. I'm justFairy Nuff. (Though I wouldn't say there's a lot of "keeping it going" involved with most of news clients - it's only if the server introduces changes, which they don't often.)
not interested in newsgroups enough to try to keep a reader working.
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In general email is pretty simple. Once working it keeps workingStrange; I've always thought TB was one of those with _good_ support -
unless the tools has issues like T-bird. The real problem with T-bird
was the near lack of support. It's just not worth the effort. GG
not from mozilla, who are hopeless (and keep breaking it if you have "up"dates enabled, but from other people - and most email and news
providers have a page specific to it, and to few others (other than
Outlook of course).
I've little experience of it as a newsreader, mind.
sucks totally, then sucked some more when they changed it again. IPretty dire that! (I too remember pine.) I wouldn't know what to suggest other than TB _for news_; there still does seem to be support/enthusiasm
would say each time they change it, it gets a little worse, but that
would be a lie, it got a LOT worse this last time. They strip out
multiple spaces between words so you can't sen ascii art, aka, text
based line drawings anymore on top of literally the worst UI I have
ever seen since pine.
for (Free) Agent (from users).
It's hard to imaging Google practically owning the world and continuingI don't know; increasing degradation in many spheres seems to be our
to make this interface worse every time they touch it!
fate! )-:
The other day I was kindof bitching out my insurance company for having >their heads up their bureaucratic asses and actually said, "If Google
sold insurance they would make this easy". lol I say stuff like that
to my bank too. Banks don't understand the "online" part of online >banking. Anything past online 101 they want you to come into an
office. I guess these are two very conservative industries.
Where are you? I'm in UK, and I get the opposite impression: they _want_
you to do everything online, and make it awkward to do things "in
branch"!
If you send plain text, that's what is sent - no size information is
conveyed. In Eudora, I _think_ that's Tools | Options | Styled Text,
then ensure "Show formatting toolbar" is _un_ticked. To change the font >> _you_ see while composing, I _think_ it's Tools | Options | Fonts |
Screen. (Sorry to sound vague: I don't use Eudora myself, though I have >> it installed to help others.)
I'd like to be able to send HTML which is what I think you are calling(Not me - Eudora calls it that.)
"styled text" in order to preserve in my replies the HTML others haveI see. I have no solution for that, I'm afraid!
sent. It is set for "both" on sending.Which means I think that your emails contain both a plain text part and
an HTML part; however, you probably only get to see the HTML one while composing, if you have it set!
I changed the fonts to large under "message" and left it medium on
printer and screen. Is "screen" reading mail and "message" writing?
Sorry, I don't know. It may also be that one of those settings (I'd
guess "screen") is ignored if you have "Styled text" enabled.
I wonder if you could see things bigger by changing a setting in Windows
- there's something about percentage text size up to 125% or 150%;
whether that would work with Eudora, I don't know. Something that would
work of course would be reducing your screen resolution, but that's
drastic, and gives you less space to do everything. (Or same resolution
but a bigger monitor!)
Just no records of my outbox. So I still backup my Eudora mailboxes,Probably worth shrinking that - can you save and then remove attachments >> in Eudora?
all 4 GB.
Don't care. 4 GB is not so much. I have 8 GB in my work directory andNot by modern standards, no. I was wondering if Eudora might be groaning under it, but if it isn't, fine.
tons under the downloads folder which is 90% useful stuff... or atAh, if Eudora keeps attachments in a separate folder called downloads, that's probably fine. (Though if that means you have 4 or 8 GB of
emails _excluding_ attachments, that's impressive!)
least stuff I don't want to toss out for fear of making a mistake.I don't toss out attachments, just take them out of emails.
FOMM
(I don't know that one - is it like YMMV?)
Thanks for the help. It makes a difference.
Glad to chat; sorry if I can't help that much, as I don't use Eudora!
(If you're wondering, I use Turnpike, for both email and news - that
died in 2007! But I just have muscle memory for it [not to mention
emails and news posts back to 199x, though I think I could transfer
those if I had to.])
But my vision is nowhere near what it was 20 years ago.
I wish it was easier to adjust the size of text when editing a
message. I have to set the font size to large while typing
and remember to set it back to normal before sending. I forget
1 time in 10 or so. It must look odd to the recipient to see such large text.
But my vision is nowhere near what it was 20 years ago.
I wish it was easier to adjust the size of text when editing a
message. I have to set the font size to large while typing
and remember to set it back to normal before sending. I forget
1 time in 10 or so. It must look odd to the recipient to see such large text.
You don't need to set it back if you send as PLAIN TEXT. When sending
as plain text the HTML that makes the font look larger to you isn't
sent with the message.
Try it by sending mail to yourself. I just did and it works. You may
have to set Eudora to ask you how to send in order to run this test if
HTML is currently your default.
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