• I have to replace Eudora, but with which email client?

    From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 4 12:07:58 2021
    Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Thu Nov 4 05:19:54 2021
    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 11:08:02 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks
    Pandora is designed specifically to be as much like Eudora as possible, and is kept up to date with modern formats and protocols.
    It will also import all the information form Eudora, messages and contacts. It's not free (although pretty cheap), but there is a free version you can use to try it out.
    https://pandoramail.com/

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  • From Dennis Lee Bieber@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 4 13:14:45 2021
    On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:39:59 +0100, ijones@jejejeje.it declaimed the
    following:

    https://pandoramail.com/

    Thanks for you news. If I remember well, you need to install an old
    version of Pandora if you want to import the messages from Eudora to
    Pandora. Is it right?

    Not that I recall.

    BUT...

    You will need a PAID version to import more than one personality, one signature, etc.

    The "Importing Witch" (apparently the author doesn't like wizards) allows for
    accounts
    contacts
    filters
    labels
    messages
    (though only one at a time, meaning you'll need five passes -- biggest confusion is that [I just started the "witch"] it wants UAC privileges, and that means it defaults to your admin account when selecting the mail
    program -- choice of Eudora, Outlook, Thunderbird, Windows Live [Outlook Express, Windows Mail, and Unix Mailboxes are ghosted/disabled] -- I didn't
    go further to see if I can change it to import from my user account; of
    course, one could use the admin account to change the user account to
    admin, do the imports, then revoke admin from user <G> )


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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 4 17:39:59 2021
    https://pandoramail.com/

    Thanks for you news. If I remember well, you need to install an old
    version of Pandora if you want to import the messages from Eudora to
    Pandora. Is it right?

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Thu Nov 4 17:27:42 2021
    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 16:40:00 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    https://pandoramail.com/

    Thanks for you news. If I remember well, you need to install an old
    version of Pandora if you want to import the messages from Eudora to
    Pandora. Is it right?
    Not as far as I know, all versions should import.
    I don't use it so I can't really comment on it.
    One way to find out, download it and try it!

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 5 09:08:33 2021
    I have only one problem with Eudora. When Eudora checks messages
    automatically many account I see many page like it that I attach. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ilp668ufemxom5/CatturaEudora.JPG?dl=0
    But if I check messages manually, Eudora works fine.
    In your opinion can I solve this problem?

    Thanks for you news. If I remember well, you need to install an old
    version of Pandora if you want to import the messages from Eudora to
    Pandora. Is it right?
    Not as far as I know, all versions should import.
    I don't use it so I can't really comment on it.
    One way to find out, download it and try it!

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  • From Jim H@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 5 15:35:00 2021
    On Fri, 05 Nov 2021 09:08:33 +0100, in <thp9og927f4ai5qju7kfbakjff8d1130oi@4ax.com>, ijones@jejejeje.it
    wrote:

    I have only one problem with Eudora. When Eudora checks messages >automatically many account I see many page like it that I attach. >https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ilp668ufemxom5/CatturaEudora.JPG?dl=0
    But if I check messages manually, Eudora works fine.
    In your opinion can I solve this problem?

    It asks if you want to trust this certificate in the future. Since you
    continue to get mail at these locations, maybe click YES?

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    Jim H

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Fri Nov 5 11:42:35 2021
    On Friday, 5 November 2021 at 08:08:35 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    I have only one problem with Eudora. When Eudora checks messages automatically many account I see many page like it that I attach. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ilp668ufemxom5/CatturaEudora.JPG?dl=0
    But if I check messages manually, Eudora works fine.
    In your opinion can I solve this problem?
    Thanks for you news. If I remember well, you need to install an old
    version of Pandora if you want to import the messages from Eudora to
    Pandora. Is it right?
    Not as far as I know, all versions should import.
    I don't use it so I can't really comment on it.
    One way to find out, download it and try it!
    I'm not sure why there would be any difference between an automatic check and a manual check.
    Presumably you've tried just saying yes to trusting the certificate in future sessions?

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 6 14:22:48 2021
    It asks if you want to trust this certificate in the future. Since you >continue to get mail at these locations, maybe click YES?

    OK, but I have always to click on "yes" on all my accounts every time
    I turn on the computer. Then I have no problems anymore. But when the
    computer goes also into hibernation I have always to click on "yes",
    because I don't work with my computer for 30 minutes.
    I don't know what I can do to solve this problem.

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 6 16:12:21 2021
    Presumably you've tried just saying yes to trusting the certificate in future sessions?

    I always clkick on yes, but the next time I get the same problem.
    U use Eudora in a noteboo and in a PC but I get the same problem with
    both. It seems incredible. May be the problem is I have 25 account.
    In your opinion could be it the problem?

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  • From Dennis Lee Bieber@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 6 11:26:35 2021
    On Sat, 06 Nov 2021 14:22:48 +0100, ijones@jejejeje.it declaimed the
    following:

    OK, but I have always to click on "yes" on all my accounts every time
    I turn on the computer. Then I have no problems anymore. But when the >computer goes also into hibernation I have always to click on "yes",
    because I don't work with my computer for 30 minutes.
    I don't know what I can do to solve this problem.

    This is unclear... Unless you have Eudora configured as some "autostart" service, just powering up the computer should not affect
    anything doing with Eudora accounts. Starting Eudora, however, may produce prompts, but it is not clear just what prompt/dialog-box to which you are referring.

    Depending upon configuration, Eudora may prompt for account passwords when starting up (meaning one does not have Eudora configured to save
    passwords between sessions).

    If you are getting certificate errors, you need to follow the chain of certificates and approve any with a "skull" icon -- and repeat that process until you get to the bottom of the chain (which could mean multiple "fetch mails" to trigger the next level down).

    Regrets, I've been using Pandora for something like three years now, and don't actually recall how to access the certificate chain (I did just
    start Eudora, but it fetched mail with no problem, and the "last ssl info" button on the personality configuration is just stating "no ssl
    performed"...)

    A 30-minute or so time-out also seems to imply configuration -- as if your email login information is not saved permanently. However, the manual states that if you don't have "save password" set, the passwords are saved
    for the session, not timed out. Don't know how coming out of hibernation affects Eudora -- if it treats it (somehow) as a fresh start-up it would
    then forget passwords.


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    Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 6 18:21:07 2021
    Regrets, I've been using Pandora for something like three years now,
    and don't actually recall how to access the certificate chain (I did just >start Eudora, but it fetched mail with no problem, and the "last ssl info" >button on the personality configuration is just stating "no ssl >performed"...)

    Unfortunately myEudora has a good config. with HermSSL.
    Anyway it is configures in an automatic Check when I open Eudora.
    I do't have any "skull" icon and I saved the passwords ... if I
    understand you well. I don't know if I have to config. Eudora in
    Tools/Options.

    Out of curiosity: the latest Pandora version can import accounts,
    messages, mailboxes, filters, etc. etc.
    Thank you for some info.

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Sun Nov 7 04:37:29 2021
    On Saturday, 6 November 2021 at 17:21:09 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Regrets, I've been using Pandora for something like three years now,
    and don't actually recall how to access the certificate chain (I did just >start Eudora, but it fetched mail with no problem, and the "last ssl info" >button on the personality configuration is just stating "no ssl >performed"...)

    Unfortunately myEudora has a good config. with HermSSL.
    Anyway it is configures in an automatic Check when I open Eudora.
    I do't have any "skull" icon and I saved the passwords ... if I
    understand you well. I don't know if I have to config. Eudora in Tools/Options.

    Out of curiosity: the latest Pandora version can import accounts,
    messages, mailboxes, filters, etc. etc.
    Thank you for some info.
    Did you say that you never see the certificate error if you check mail manually on the accounts?
    Does any mail download when you see the error?
    It's probably only one account that has the problem.

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 7 19:35:21 2021
    My problem is very strange because I never got this problem.

    Did you say that you never see the certificate error if you check mail manually on the accounts?
    Yes, if I check email clicking manually on every account, I don't see
    any problem. Every account works fine.

    Does any mail download when you see the error?
    No, Eudora Eudora remains blocked and does not download emails until I
    click "YES" on each certificate.

    It's probably only one account that has the problem.
    I don't know because very account works fine if I check manually
    emails.

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Sun Nov 7 15:19:53 2021
    On Sunday, 7 November 2021 at 18:35:23 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    My problem is very strange because I never got this problem.
    Did you say that you never see the certificate error if you check mail manually on the accounts?
    Yes, if I check email clicking manually on every account, I don't see
    any problem. Every account works fine.
    Does any mail download when you see the error?
    No, Eudora Eudora remains blocked and does not download emails until I
    click "YES" on each certificate.
    It's probably only one account that has the problem.
    I don't know because very account works fine if I check manually
    emails.
    Is "Check Mail" checked on the properties of every account?
    If so try removing them all and then adding them back one by one.
    If they all cause the error then we need to look elsewhere, but at least that will eliminate whether there are a particular account or accounts causing the problem.

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 8 06:44:20 2021
    Is "Check Mail" checked on the properties of every account?
    If so try removing them all and then adding them back one by one.
    If they all cause the error then we need to look elsewhere, but at least that will eliminate whether there are a particular account or accounts causing the problem.

    Yes, "Check Mail" is checked on every account.
    I have unchecked all them and then checked again. But I get the same
    problem.

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Mon Nov 8 04:12:49 2021
    On Monday, 8 November 2021 at 05:44:21 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Is "Check Mail" checked on the properties of every account?
    If so try removing them all and then adding them back one by one.
    If they all cause the error then we need to look elsewhere, but at least that will eliminate whether there are a particular account or accounts causing the problem.
    Yes, "Check Mail" is checked on every account.
    I have unchecked all them and then checked again. But I get the same
    problem.
    That is very strange, as if all the "Check Mail" options are unchecked, it shouldn't be doing any checking of course!
    Looking again at the screen shot of the error message, that doesn't actually look like a message from Eudora.
    I wonder if it's coming from something else. Do you have any security software installed? If so, try disabling it temporarily and see if that makes any difference.

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 8 16:47:46 2021
    That is very strange, as if all the "Check Mail" options are unchecked, it shouldn't be doing any checking of course!
    Looking again at the screen shot of the error message,

    I have to correct myself:
    when Eudora gets stucks on Accounts, if I click "Yes", everything is
    fine and mails are downloaded with manual check. But even when and if
    I click "YES", I am noticing a strange thing, in fact I have a bad
    certificate. In fact, if I go to "Certificate information manager", I
    have to manually add it to the secure certificates. But I repeat: even
    if I don't do this, it's okay if I do the manual check.
    I attach the pics.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yytkmd3qmyibpk/CatturaEuddora%201.JPG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/vw818i5vr9zn13n/CatturaEudora%202.JPG?dl=0

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Mon Nov 8 10:39:53 2021
    On Monday, 8 November 2021 at 15:47:48 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    That is very strange, as if all the "Check Mail" options are unchecked, it shouldn't be doing any checking of course!
    Looking again at the screen shot of the error message,
    I have to correct myself:
    when Eudora gets stucks on Accounts, if I click "Yes", everything is
    fine and mails are downloaded with manual check. But even when and if
    I click "YES", I am noticing a strange thing, in fact I have a bad certificate. In fact, if I go to "Certificate information manager", I
    have to manually add it to the secure certificates. But I repeat: even
    if I don't do this, it's okay if I do the manual check.
    I attach the pics.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yytkmd3qmyibpk/CatturaEuddora%201.JPG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/vw818i5vr9zn13n/CatturaEudora%202.JPG?dl=0
    Are those two screenshots showing a connection to the same account?
    They appear to both be pop3.live.com, but are using different IP addresses.

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 9 00:17:39 2021
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yytkmd3qmyibpk/CatturaEuddora%201.JPG?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/vw818i5vr9zn13n/CatturaEudora%202.JPG?dl=0
    Are those two screenshots showing a connection to the same account?
    They appear to both be pop3.live.com, but are using different IP addresses.

    It always refers to the same "hotmail.com" account. Even now Eudora
    blocks due to the certificate error, but then when I go to check in
    Account Settings / Incoming mail / Last SS Info, I see that everything
    is fine. I can also delete that account, it's not important for me,
    but what I don't understand is, why do I have to click "YES" on all
    the other certificates as well?

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Mon Nov 8 16:08:46 2021
    On Monday, 8 November 2021 at 23:17:42 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/1yytkmd3qmyibpk/CatturaEuddora%201.JPG?dl=0
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/vw818i5vr9zn13n/CatturaEudora%202.JPG?dl=0
    Are those two screenshots showing a connection to the same account?
    They appear to both be pop3.live.com, but are using different IP addresses. It always refers to the same "hotmail.com" account. Even now Eudora
    blocks due to the certificate error, but then when I go to check in
    Account Settings / Incoming mail / Last SS Info, I see that everything
    is fine. I can also delete that account, it's not important for me,
    but what I don't understand is, why do I have to click "YES" on all
    the other certificates as well?
    Perhaps it's a system certificate failure, which is affecting everything.
    Have you tried installing it to the system as well as trusting it in Eudora?

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 9 10:46:27 2021
    I'm doing more and more careful tests.
    The problem with automatic check is with all accounts. I get the
    certificate problem with every account. But even if I don't click
    "Yes" and do the manual check, then Eudora is able to download the
    mail normally (even if on "Last SSL Info" there is the skull, Eudora
    is enabled to download mail normally, if I do the manual check, the
    skull automatically disappears). But if I don't click "Yes" at first, everything is blocked.

    Perhaps it's a system certificate failure, which is affecting everything. >Have you tried installing it to the system as well as trusting it in Eudora?

    I don't understand well what I have to do. Maybe HermSSL is not
    working well? But I have the same problema with both computers.

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 10 09:25:36 2021
    I FINALLY DISCOVERED THE PROBLEM: it is BitDefender that created those certificate problems on Eubora. In recent days I had tried to disable
    it but maybe it was working in the background. Now I don't load
    BitDefender anymore when I turn on the computer and Eudora works
    fine. All this seems incredible to me. In fact I had configured
    BitDefender correctly. On BitDefender there is the Option to check
    emails "in and out" and I had removed the flag (disabled). But
    evidently BitDefender was working on Eudora.
    At this point I think I should change the AV or call the BitDefender
    help desk to be able to configure BitDefender better.

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 10 11:32:16 2021
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web
    scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Wed Nov 10 04:35:26 2021
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web
    scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 10 16:01:08 2021
    I write again only to conffirm now Eudora works very well.
    In your opinion, disabling that encrypted web
    scanning, I will get some safety issues?
    Thank you!

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Wed Nov 10 08:00:52 2021
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 15:01:10 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    I write again only to conffirm now Eudora works very well.
    In your opinion, disabling that encrypted web
    scanning, I will get some safety issues?
    Thank you!
    I really don't know, but frankly if switching it off enables Eudora to work properly, and you still want to carry on using Eudora, leave it switched off!
    I would very much doubt that it would open up a big security hole in your system, it's very common for some facilities on security software to cause issues with some other software and have to be disabled. I really wouldn't worry about it.

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  • From Dennis Lee Bieber@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 10 11:35:04 2021
    On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 08:00:52 -0800 (PST), DaveH2 <dave-h@sky.com> declaimed
    the following:

    I really don't know, but frankly if switching it off enables Eudora to work properly, and you still want to carry on using Eudora, leave it switched off!
    I would very much doubt that it would open up a big security hole in your system, it's very common for some facilities on security software to cause issues with some other software and have to be disabled. I really wouldn't worry about it.

    Note that Eudora uses a two-step system for inbound email. The first step saves the message in the spool directory. THEN the spooled messages
    are processed into the IN box (or filtered to other boxes).

    As a result, one seldom needs to have virus checkers checking the network traffic -- they only need to check the spooled file WHEN Eudora
    starts processing it into a mailbox.


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    Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 15 12:11:21 2021
    I would just like to inform you that a very strange thing has just
    happened to me.
    Eudora hasn't downloaded one message that is in my account on the web.
    It is not in a Junk folder.
    I had to go online to be able to read mymessage that Eudora didn't
    download.
    The same email was sent to ....@gmail.com and ....@tin.it
    I didn't get both.
    Such a thing had never happened to me.

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Mon Nov 15 16:04:13 2021
    On Monday, 15 November 2021 at 11:11:26 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    I would just like to inform you that a very strange thing has just
    happened to me.
    Eudora hasn't downloaded one message that is in my account on the web.
    It is not in a Junk folder.
    I had to go online to be able to read mymessage that Eudora didn't
    download.
    The same email was sent to ....@gmail.com and ....@tin.it
    I didn't get both.
    Such a thing had never happened to me.
    I've never had that happen to me either, but I have heard of it happening occasionally to other people.
    Unfortunately I don't think the cause was ever determined.
    I would think it's possible that the message won't work with the POP message retrieval system for some reason (assuming that's what you're using) rather than an actual problem in Eudora. No other POP e-mail client would retrieve it either if that were
    the case.
    Is there anything odd at all about the message? Is it just plain text or does it contain HTML and/or embedded images?

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  • From ijones@jejejeje.it@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 16 14:56:10 2021
    Is there anything odd at all about the message? Is it just plain text or does it contain HTML and/or embedded images?

    It's a message youtube sent me. Nothing in particular. But the
    strangest thing is that the other Eudora I have in another laptop
    managed to download it. It is incredible but true.

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Tue Nov 16 06:24:36 2021
    On Tuesday, 16 November 2021 at 13:56:11 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Is there anything odd at all about the message? Is it just plain text or does it contain HTML and/or embedded images?
    It's a message youtube sent me. Nothing in particular. But the
    strangest thing is that the other Eudora I have in another laptop
    managed to download it. It is incredible but true.
    That is strange, I've had loads of e-mails from YouTube over the years, and they've always been delivered fine.
    We'll probably never know, but it could have been something with had nothing to do with Eudora at all.

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  • From Pamela@21:1/5 to Dennis Lee Bieber on Tue Feb 15 12:13:54 2022
    On 17:14 4 Nov 2021, Dennis Lee Bieber said:

    On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:39:59 +0100, ijones@jejejeje.it declaimed the following:

    https://pandoramail.com/

    Thanks for you news. If I remember well, you need to install an old
    version of Pandora if you want to import the messages from Eudora to >>Pandora. Is it right?

    Not that I recall.

    BUT...

    You will need a PAID version to import more than one
    personality, one
    signature, etc.

    The "Importing Witch" (apparently the author doesn't like
    wizards)
    allows for
    accounts
    contacts
    filters
    labels
    messages
    (though only one at a time, meaning you'll need five passes --
    biggest confusion is that [I just started the "witch"] it wants UAC privileges, and that means it defaults to your admin account when
    selecting the mail program -- choice of Eudora, Outlook, Thunderbird,
    Windows Live [Outlook Express, Windows Mail, and Unix Mailboxes are ghosted/disabled] -- I didn't go further to see if I can change it to
    import from my user account; of course, one could use the admin
    account to change the user account to admin, do the imports, then
    revoke admin from user <G> )

    The names of my Eudora 7.1 mailboxes and folders have special
    characters. Would they get corrupted in an automatic port to Pandora?

    I vaguely recall hitting a problem like this years ago. It may have
    been from an earlier version of Eudora to a later version - or
    something like that. Anyway it didn't go entirely smoothly and I recall
    some names gave trouble.

    Does a migration to Pandora go smoother than that?

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  • From Dennis Lee Bieber@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 15 13:25:32 2022
    On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:13:54 GMT, Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> declaimed the following:

    The names of my Eudora 7.1 mailboxes and folders have special
    characters. Would they get corrupted in an automatic port to Pandora?

    I couldn't say... But Pandora is supposed to be UTF-8 compatible...

    Does a migration to Pandora go smoother than that?

    Again -- it was a one time action that I did back with Pandora 1.x; I'm now running 3.x (4.x is out, but I haven't made the major version change payment, so installing 4.x would revert me to demo mode with 1 personality, etc.)


    --
    Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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  • From Nick Werner-Matavka@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Sun Jun 19 00:26:58 2022
    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 07:08:02 UTC-4, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks

    Why don't you try HERMES Mail? We have a real continuation of Eudora for Windows running on a modern PC; if you have been following our story, we have had to change the name but we are running the historic Eudora 7.1 code base, improved to work with
    Unicode and modern OpenSSL. This is not a re-creation, but a real revival of QUALCOMM Eudora.

    We did a few little fundraisers before Covid hit, and that bought us time to get running, but until now our finances have been essentially a blank slate. The software is now, for all intents and purposes, complete. This time, we have a FIRM commitment to
    release to our testers on 1 AUGUST of THIS YEAR!

    As proof positive that we have a product to release, please see our screenshots: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aLvQTdHW3x01RJG52oPaw-ujni09XyhC/view?usp=sharing and https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmTxCRbEPdhAPOHJzMrZ5ovtimvDkEFB/view?usp=sharing

    If you wish to become a tester and be among the first to get access to this product, please chip in here: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hermes-mail-8-0-the-final-stretch#/ Throw in a dollar, ten, or a hundred; any amount will get you access when we
    release in August.

    In view of our proven success in this area (albeit delayed), we're aiming for five thousand Canadian dollars this time. That'll allow us to continue developing the Windows version (which will also run on Linux), and begin development on HERMES Mail for
    Mac.

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  • From Techi Zino@21:1/5 to n.theodore.m...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 13 10:56:27 2022
    On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 12:57:00 PM UTC+5:30, n.theodore.m...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 07:08:02 UTC-4, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks

    Why don't you try HERMES Mail? We have a real continuation of Eudora for Windows running on a modern PC; if you have been following our story, we have had to change the name but we are running the historic Eudora 7.1 code base, improved to work with
    Unicode and modern OpenSSL. This is not a re-creation, but a real revival of QUALCOMM Eudora.

    We did a few little fundraisers before Covid hit, and that bought us time to get running, but until now our finances have been essentially a blank slate. The software is now, for all intents and purposes, complete. This time, we have a FIRM commitment
    to release to our testers on 1 AUGUST of THIS YEAR!

    As proof positive that we have a product to release, please see our screenshots: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aLvQTdHW3x01RJG52oPaw-ujni09XyhC/view?usp=sharing and https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmTxCRbEPdhAPOHJzMrZ5ovtimvDkEFB/view?usp=sharing

    If you wish to become a tester and be among the first to get access to this product, please chip in here: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hermes-mail-8-0-the-final-stretch#/ Throw in a dollar, ten, or a hundred; any amount will get you access when
    we release in August.

    In view of our proven success in this area (albeit delayed), we're aiming for five thousand Canadian dollars this time. That'll allow us to continue developing the Windows version (which will also run on Linux), and begin development on HERMES Mail for
    Mac.



    25dollarsupport.com can help you migrate from Eudora to Mozilla thunderbird or any other email clients

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  • From Techi Zino@21:1/5 to n.theodore.m...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 13 10:57:58 2022
    On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 12:57:00 PM UTC+5:30, n.theodore.m...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 07:08:02 UTC-4, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks

    Why don't you try HERMES Mail? We have a real continuation of Eudora for Windows running on a modern PC; if you have been following our story, we have had to change the name but we are running the historic Eudora 7.1 code base, improved to work with
    Unicode and modern OpenSSL. This is not a re-creation, but a real revival of QUALCOMM Eudora.

    We did a few little fundraisers before Covid hit, and that bought us time to get running, but until now our finances have been essentially a blank slate. The software is now, for all intents and purposes, complete. This time, we have a FIRM commitment
    to release to our testers on 1 AUGUST of THIS YEAR!

    As proof positive that we have a product to release, please see our screenshots: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aLvQTdHW3x01RJG52oPaw-ujni09XyhC/view?usp=sharing and https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmTxCRbEPdhAPOHJzMrZ5ovtimvDkEFB/view?usp=sharing

    If you wish to become a tester and be among the first to get access to this product, please chip in here: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hermes-mail-8-0-the-final-stretch#/ Throw in a dollar, ten, or a hundred; any amount will get you access when
    we release in August.

    In view of our proven success in this area (albeit delayed), we're aiming for five thousand Canadian dollars this time. That'll allow us to continue developing the Windows version (which will also run on Linux), and begin development on HERMES Mail for
    Mac.



    25dollarsupport.com can help you migrate from Eudora to Mozilla thunderbird or any other email clients

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  • From Magus Tools@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Wed Oct 5 02:39:21 2022
    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 16:38:02 UTC+5:30, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks


    In my opinion, you should migrate from Eudora to MS Outlook. It is easy, updated, feature rich and easily available for everyone. Supports multiple file types and it is extremely simple to migrate Eudora to MS Outlook. You only need a reliable tool to
    read Eudora mailboxes and one such solution is https://www.magustools.com/mbox-conversion/pst.php

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 08:26:25 2022
    Magus Tools <support@magustools.com> on Wed, 5 Oct 2022 02:39:21 -0700
    (PDT) typed in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 16:38:02 UTC+5:30, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote: >> Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks


    In my opinion, you should migrate from Eudora to MS Outlook. It is easy, updated, feature rich and easily available for everyone. Supports multiple file types and it is extremely simple to migrate Eudora to MS Outlook. You only need a reliable tool to
    read Eudora mailboxes and one such solution is https://www.magustools.com/mbox-conversion/pst.php

    Question: is MS Outlook on my computer, storing my files "here"?
    Or is my email being stored on Microsoft's computer?
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
    Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
    Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

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  • From Dennis Lee Bieber@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 5 14:20:25 2022
    On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 02:39:21 -0700 (PDT), Magus Tools
    <support@magustools.com> declaimed the following:

    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 16:38:02 UTC+5:30, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote: >> Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks


    In my opinion, you should migrate from Eudora to MS Outlook. It is easy, updated, feature rich and easily available for everyone. Supports multiple file types and it is extremely simple to migrate Eudora to MS Outlook. You only need a reliable tool to
    read Eudora mailboxes and one such solution is https://www.magustools.com/mbox-conversion/pst.php


    Pandora http://www.drivehq.com/web/brana/pandora.htm (small cost for major upgrades and initial version if one wants to unlock all features --
    demo only supports one personality/server) is a work-alike for Eudora
    (there are some minor things that behave differently).

    It has capability to directly import personalities, mailboxes, etc. from Eudora -- no conversion tool required.


    My experience with Outlook is that it is focused on corporate mail structure, wherein replies use top-posting, with quoted material treated as
    a "courtesy copy". I don't think I ever managed to get it to work with interspersed and/or bottom posting, which is most common for general email.


    --
    Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 6 08:18:17 2022
    Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> on Wed, 05 Oct 2022 14:20:25
    -0400 typed in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 02:39:21 -0700 (PDT), Magus Tools
    <support@magustools.com> declaimed the following:

    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 16:38:02 UTC+5:30, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote: >>> Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks


    In my opinion, you should migrate from Eudora to MS Outlook. It is easy, updated, feature rich and easily available for everyone. Supports multiple file types and it is extremely simple to migrate Eudora to MS Outlook. You only need a reliable tool to
    read Eudora mailboxes and one such solution is https://www.magustools.com/mbox-conversion/pst.php


    Pandora http://www.drivehq.com/web/brana/pandora.htm (small cost for
    major upgrades and initial version if one wants to unlock all features -- >demo only supports one personality/server) is a work-alike for Eudora
    (there are some minor things that behave differently).

    It has capability to directly import personalities, mailboxes, etc.
    from Eudora -- no conversion tool required.


    My experience with Outlook is that it is focused on corporate mail
    structure, wherein replies use top-posting, with quoted material treated as
    a "courtesy copy". I don't think I ever managed to get it to work with >interspersed and/or bottom posting, which is most common for general email.

    Thanks.

    I may migrate - some day. But for now, Eudora works.
    --
    pyotr filipivich
    This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
    Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
    Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

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  • From Carles M.@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 28 12:15:22 2022
    What do you think about the new Eudora 8.0.0 beta-9 announced at https://eudora.en.softonic.com/
    Did anyone do a test?

    El dia dijous, 6 d’octubre de 2022 a les 17:18:13 UTC+2, pyotr filipivich va escriure:
    Dennis Lee Bieber <wlf...@ix.netcom.com> on Wed, 05 Oct 2022 14:20:25
    -0400 typed in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows the following:
    On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 02:39:21 -0700 (PDT), Magus Tools ><sup...@magustools.com> declaimed the following:

    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 16:38:02 UTC+5:30, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks

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  • From Carles M.@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 29 03:02:35 2022
    Eudora 8 is a fake. It's just the same Thunderbird that has been redressed with Eudora clothes. Nothing new.

    El dia divendres, 28 d’octubre de 2022 a les 21:15:24 UTC+2, Carles M. va escriure:
    What do you think about the new Eudora 8.0.0 beta-9 announced at https://eudora.en.softonic.com/
    Did anyone do a test?

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  • From Techi Zino@21:1/5 to wino...@gmail.com on Mon Dec 12 08:13:07 2022
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 3:32:36 PM UTC+5:30, wino...@gmail.com wrote:
    Eudora 8 is a fake. It's just the same Thunderbird that has been redressed with Eudora clothes. Nothing new.

    El dia divendres, 28 d’octubre de 2022 a les 21:15:24 UTC+2, Carles M. va escriure:
    What do you think about the new Eudora 8.0.0 beta-9 announced at https://eudora.en.softonic.com/
    Did anyone do a test?
    just go for Mozilla Thunderbird and 25dollarsupport.com can help you migrate from Eudora to Mozilla Thunderbird

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  • From Dean Calvert@21:1/5 to pann...@gmail.com on Thu Dec 29 13:05:15 2022
    On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 11:13:08 AM UTC-5, pann...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 3:32:36 PM UTC+5:30, wino...@gmail.com wrote:
    Eudora 8 is a fake. It's just the same Thunderbird that has been redressed with Eudora clothes. Nothing new.

    El dia divendres, 28 d’octubre de 2022 a les 21:15:24 UTC+2, Carles M. va escriure:
    What do you think about the new Eudora 8.0.0 beta-9 announced at https://eudora.en.softonic.com/
    Did anyone do a test?
    just go for Mozilla Thunderbird and 25dollarsupport.com can help you migrate from Eudora to Mozilla Thunderbird

    Sorry but I think Mozilla Thunderbird is the WORST idea i've seen here.

    Used it for about a month and got tired of waiting for it all the time.

    It's a major STEP BACKWARD from Eudora, as far as I'm concerned.

    I've switched to Mailbird, but still can't say I'm completely happy. The searching functions are very limited.

    I was just thinking this morning that I'd switch back to Eudora in a second, if that choice was available (which I know isn't) so i decided to check out the latest "buzz" on replacements.

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  • From Mutley@21:1/5 to Dean Calvert on Sat Dec 31 08:41:08 2022
    Dean Calvert <dmcalvert@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 11:13:08 AM UTC-5, pann...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 3:32:36 PM UTC+5:30, wino...@gmail.com wrote:
    Eudora 8 is a fake. It's just the same Thunderbird that has been redressed with Eudora clothes. Nothing new.

    El dia divendres, 28 d’octubre de 2022 a les 21:15:24 UTC+2, Carles M. va escriure:
    What do you think about the new Eudora 8.0.0 beta-9 announced at https://eudora.en.softonic.com/
    Did anyone do a test?
    just go for Mozilla Thunderbird and 25dollarsupport.com can help you migrate from Eudora to Mozilla Thunderbird

    Sorry but I think Mozilla Thunderbird is the WORST idea i've seen here.

    Used it for about a month and got tired of waiting for it all the time.

    It's a major STEP BACKWARD from Eudora, as far as I'm concerned.

    I've switched to Mailbird, but still can't say I'm completely happy. The searching functions are very limited.

    I was just thinking this morning that I'd switch back to Eudora in a second, if that choice was available (which I know isn't) so i decided to check out the latest "buzz" on replacements.

    I went thru the same excersize about 5 years ago. Finally bit the
    bullet and bought a Office 365 personal license and shared with the
    wife and now use Outlook 365. It works well for me as I use 4
    outlook.com and hotmail accounts for work and home.

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  • From gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Magus Tools on Wed Jan 4 11:57:44 2023
    On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 5:39:23 AM UTC-4, Magus Tools wrote:
    On Thursday, 4 November 2021 at 16:38:02 UTC+5:30, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks
    In my opinion, you should migrate from Eudora to MS Outlook. It is easy, updated, feature rich and easily available for everyone. Supports multiple file types and it is extremely simple to migrate Eudora to MS Outlook. You only need a reliable tool to
    read Eudora mailboxes and one such solution is https://www.magustools.com/mbox-conversion/pst.php

    I've used Outlook in the past and it is the biggest piece of... let's just say it's not for me. ;)

    Mostly it's problem is being Microsoft, they want to own you, and never really tell you what they are doing. Eudora may be a piece of crap as well, but it's *my* piece of crap that I *know* and love... well love/hate.

    I really am ready for an update. Something has happened over the last year that many emails won't really show. I have to open them in the browser. The weird thing is, I thought it was new emails that use modern HTML features, but even older emails
    that used to display in Eudora have to be opened in the browser as if Eudora took at step backwards.

    Anyone know the current status of Hermes? I've been tired of waiting for a couple of years now. Mostly it bugs me that there isn't more reporting of what needs to be done and where the project is currently. Sometimes I wonder if Hermes is about
    anything more than beer money. Anyone seen a real sign of life? Above, Theodore said they would be shipping to "testers" in August. I think we are past that point, no?

    This time, we have a FIRM commitment to release to our testers on 1 AUGUST of THIS YEAR!

    My real problem is, I have no way to test a new tool, without risking the continuity of my email archives. I guess I would need to set up something where I continue to use Eudora as usual, and run Hermes without deleting any email from the server. So
    Hermes could read all my email all the time, then I run Eudora once in a while to download the emails and remove them from the server. Or I could do it the other way around and send my replies from Hermes. Either way, very messy.

    --

    Rick C.

    - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From Hi Lo@21:1/5 to ijo...@jejejeje.it on Wed Feb 8 10:46:58 2023
    If you really like Eudora 7.1 (I've been using it since the early 90s) There are new files that you can use to update it to modern security features. Google "Hermes Project" and download the .zip file from Sourceforge, follow the instructions and Voila.
    Your Eudora is good for at least a couple more years.


    On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 7:08:02 AM UTC-4, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    Hi friends,
    unfortunatelyI think the time has come to replace Eudora 7.1 with
    another more modern email client. I love Eudora but I get problems.
    I have problems with the Check. I would not want to lose all the
    messages I have and they are very many with many accounts.
    Can you recommend a good and modern email client?
    Thanks

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  • From Barbara Lewandowska@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 16:35:54 2023
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web
    scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to Barbara Lewandowska on Sun Apr 9 07:57:20 2023
    On Friday, 7 April 2023 at 00:35:56 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Hi Barbara, sorry for the delay in replying.
    How did you apply the Hermes update, did you use the full installer or the zip file which just contains the updated files?
    If the latter, as you seem to be saying, you should have replaced the libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, ssleay32.dll, and rootcerts.p7b files in the Eudora program files folder with the versions in the zip file. Did you also extract the vcredist.exe file and run
    it? It contains a system update which you may need. If you just get an error message when you run it, just close it. It means that the update is already installed.
    HTH. Dave.

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  • From Barbara Lewandowska@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 16 08:03:32 2023
    On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:57:21 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Friday, 7 April 2023 at 00:35:56 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Hi Barbara, sorry for the delay in replying.
    How did you apply the Hermes update, did you use the full installer or the zip file which just contains the updated files?
    If the latter, as you seem to be saying, you should have replaced the libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, ssleay32.dll, and rootcerts.p7b files in the Eudora program files folder with the versions in the zip file. Did you also extract the vcredist.exe file and
    run it? It contains a system update which you may need. If you just get an error message when you run it, just close it. It means that the update is already installed.
    HTH. Dave.

    Hi Dave,
    Thank you for your reply!
    I extracted the files and run the vcredist, but it says it's already installed on my computer, and that I should uninstall the existing one first. I am not sure if it's needed.
    I copied the files you listed above into the eudora folder, and still does not work.
    I will contact my hosting company again tomorrow, but they were no help last three times I called them (they don't even understand why would anyone want to keep their mail client/program). Basically, I think it has to do with SSL/TLS connection
    authentication, as the TLS1.2 is the new current one?
    I know it's too hard for you to guess what's wrong with someone's set up, but the conflict came upon me so suddenly, I am still in shock and don't know where to turn.
    Thanks again, Barbara.

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to Barbara Lewandowska on Mon Apr 17 10:19:32 2023
    On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 16:03:34 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:57:21 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Friday, 7 April 2023 at 00:35:56 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Hi Barbara, sorry for the delay in replying.
    How did you apply the Hermes update, did you use the full installer or the zip file which just contains the updated files?
    If the latter, as you seem to be saying, you should have replaced the libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, ssleay32.dll, and rootcerts.p7b files in the Eudora program files folder with the versions in the zip file. Did you also extract the vcredist.exe file and
    run it? It contains a system update which you may need. If you just get an error message when you run it, just close it. It means that the update is already installed.
    HTH. Dave.
    Hi Dave,
    Thank you for your reply!
    I extracted the files and run the vcredist, but it says it's already installed on my computer, and that I should uninstall the existing one first. I am not sure if it's needed.
    I copied the files you listed above into the eudora folder, and still does not work.
    I will contact my hosting company again tomorrow, but they were no help last three times I called them (they don't even understand why would anyone want to keep their mail client/program). Basically, I think it has to do with SSL/TLS connection
    authentication, as the TLS1.2 is the new current one?
    I know it's too hard for you to guess what's wrong with someone's set up, but the conflict came upon me so suddenly, I am still in shock and don't know where to turn.
    Thanks again, Barbara.

    Just to confirm, you do have 'Required, Alternate Port' selected in 'Secure Sockets' for send and receive on the persona you're using?
    What happens if you click the 'Last SSL Info' button after trying to receive or send? Does it say there was a connection made, and if there was, what was the SSL version used?

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  • From Barbara Lewandowska@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 19 17:51:27 2023
    On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:19:33 PM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 16:03:34 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:57:21 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Friday, 7 April 2023 at 00:35:56 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Hi Barbara, sorry for the delay in replying.
    How did you apply the Hermes update, did you use the full installer or the zip file which just contains the updated files?
    If the latter, as you seem to be saying, you should have replaced the libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, ssleay32.dll, and rootcerts.p7b files in the Eudora program files folder with the versions in the zip file. Did you also extract the vcredist.exe file
    and run it? It contains a system update which you may need. If you just get an error message when you run it, just close it. It means that the update is already installed.
    HTH. Dave.
    Hi Dave,
    Thank you for your reply!
    I extracted the files and run the vcredist, but it says it's already installed on my computer, and that I should uninstall the existing one first. I am not sure if it's needed.
    I copied the files you listed above into the eudora folder, and still does not work.
    I will contact my hosting company again tomorrow, but they were no help last three times I called them (they don't even understand why would anyone want to keep their mail client/program). Basically, I think it has to do with SSL/TLS connection
    authentication, as the TLS1.2 is the new current one?
    I know it's too hard for you to guess what's wrong with someone's set up, but the conflict came upon me so suddenly, I am still in shock and don't know where to turn.
    Thanks again, Barbara.

    Just to confirm, you do have 'Required, Alternate Port' selected in 'Secure Sockets' for send and receive on the persona you're using?
    What happens if you click the 'Last SSL Info' button after trying to receive or send? Does it say there was a connection made, and if there was, what was the SSL version used?
    I didn't have "required, Alternate port" checked, but it doesn't work either. The last SSL is blank. It says "I have never done any SSL negotiation with any personality since last time I started Eudora" This box used to be grayed out (sort of) but after
    I started changing the files from Hermes, I must have wiped it out.
    Barbara

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  • From Barbara Lewandowska@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 19 19:14:43 2023
    On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:19:33 PM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 16:03:34 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:57:21 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Friday, 7 April 2023 at 00:35:56 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Hi Barbara, sorry for the delay in replying.
    How did you apply the Hermes update, did you use the full installer or the zip file which just contains the updated files?
    If the latter, as you seem to be saying, you should have replaced the libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, ssleay32.dll, and rootcerts.p7b files in the Eudora program files folder with the versions in the zip file. Did you also extract the vcredist.exe file
    and run it? It contains a system update which you may need. If you just get an error message when you run it, just close it. It means that the update is already installed.
    HTH. Dave.
    Hi Dave,
    Thank you for your reply!
    I extracted the files and run the vcredist, but it says it's already installed on my computer, and that I should uninstall the existing one first. I am not sure if it's needed.
    I copied the files you listed above into the eudora folder, and still does not work.
    I will contact my hosting company again tomorrow, but they were no help last three times I called them (they don't even understand why would anyone want to keep their mail client/program). Basically, I think it has to do with SSL/TLS connection
    authentication, as the TLS1.2 is the new current one?
    I know it's too hard for you to guess what's wrong with someone's set up, but the conflict came upon me so suddenly, I am still in shock and don't know where to turn.
    Thanks again, Barbara.

    Just to confirm, you do have 'Required, Alternate Port' selected in 'Secure Sockets' for send and receive on the persona you're using?
    What happens if you click the 'Last SSL Info' button after trying to receive or send? Does it say there was a connection made, and if there was, what was the SSL version used?

    CORRECTION
    I CHANGED THE PORTS SELECTION PER YOUR ADVICE ABOVE AND IT WORKED!!!
    Customer service at my my hosting company -- they had absolutely no clue, and drove me crazy. I am so glad I found this post/conversation, and am so grateful that you actually replied with instructions. It literally saved my life. I am not sure if anyone
    understands how big of a deal it was for me. Thank you so much for your help! Barbara

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  • From gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Barbara Lewandowska on Wed Apr 19 18:17:06 2023
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 8:51:28 PM UTC-4, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:19:33 PM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 16:03:34 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:57:21 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Friday, 7 April 2023 at 00:35:56 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Hi Barbara, sorry for the delay in replying.
    How did you apply the Hermes update, did you use the full installer or the zip file which just contains the updated files?
    If the latter, as you seem to be saying, you should have replaced the libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, ssleay32.dll, and rootcerts.p7b files in the Eudora program files folder with the versions in the zip file. Did you also extract the vcredist.exe file
    and run it? It contains a system update which you may need. If you just get an error message when you run it, just close it. It means that the update is already installed.
    HTH. Dave.
    Hi Dave,
    Thank you for your reply!
    I extracted the files and run the vcredist, but it says it's already installed on my computer, and that I should uninstall the existing one first. I am not sure if it's needed.
    I copied the files you listed above into the eudora folder, and still does not work.
    I will contact my hosting company again tomorrow, but they were no help last three times I called them (they don't even understand why would anyone want to keep their mail client/program). Basically, I think it has to do with SSL/TLS connection
    authentication, as the TLS1.2 is the new current one?
    I know it's too hard for you to guess what's wrong with someone's set up, but the conflict came upon me so suddenly, I am still in shock and don't know where to turn.
    Thanks again, Barbara.

    Just to confirm, you do have 'Required, Alternate Port' selected in 'Secure Sockets' for send and receive on the persona you're using?
    What happens if you click the 'Last SSL Info' button after trying to receive or send? Does it say there was a connection made, and if there was, what was the SSL version used?
    I didn't have "required, Alternate port" checked, but it doesn't work either. The last SSL is blank. It says "I have never done any SSL negotiation with any personality since last time I started Eudora" This box used to be grayed out (sort of) but
    after I started changing the files from Hermes, I must have wiped it out.
    Barbara

    Rather than just saying, "it doesn't work", it can be important to provide the details of the error message, sometimes...

    One time I moved my domain to a new hosting provider and they gave conflicting information on how to set up the email accounts in Eudora. They actually gave zero advice for Eudora, but generically, they told me how to set up for SMTP3 or whatever the
    protocol is that isn't IMAP. The bottom line was, I kept focusing on the meaning of the rather generic error message, when the real problem was, the password was wrong. I think someone here suggested that I have Eudora forget the password for this
    account, which would prompt for a new one on the next email access. Sure enough, that did the trick and I was back on the air.

    In the menus, Special, Forget Passwords. It's a bit like falling back to defragging your hard drive, but it's easy enough to try.

    --

    Rick C.

    + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Barbara Lewandowska on Wed Apr 19 21:46:33 2023
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 10:14:44 PM UTC-4, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:19:33 PM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 16:03:34 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:57:21 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Friday, 7 April 2023 at 00:35:56 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Hi Barbara, sorry for the delay in replying.
    How did you apply the Hermes update, did you use the full installer or the zip file which just contains the updated files?
    If the latter, as you seem to be saying, you should have replaced the libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, ssleay32.dll, and rootcerts.p7b files in the Eudora program files folder with the versions in the zip file. Did you also extract the vcredist.exe file
    and run it? It contains a system update which you may need. If you just get an error message when you run it, just close it. It means that the update is already installed.
    HTH. Dave.
    Hi Dave,
    Thank you for your reply!
    I extracted the files and run the vcredist, but it says it's already installed on my computer, and that I should uninstall the existing one first. I am not sure if it's needed.
    I copied the files you listed above into the eudora folder, and still does not work.
    I will contact my hosting company again tomorrow, but they were no help last three times I called them (they don't even understand why would anyone want to keep their mail client/program). Basically, I think it has to do with SSL/TLS connection
    authentication, as the TLS1.2 is the new current one?
    I know it's too hard for you to guess what's wrong with someone's set up, but the conflict came upon me so suddenly, I am still in shock and don't know where to turn.
    Thanks again, Barbara.

    Just to confirm, you do have 'Required, Alternate Port' selected in 'Secure Sockets' for send and receive on the persona you're using?
    What happens if you click the 'Last SSL Info' button after trying to receive or send? Does it say there was a connection made, and if there was, what was the SSL version used?
    CORRECTION
    I CHANGED THE PORTS SELECTION PER YOUR ADVICE ABOVE AND IT WORKED!!! Customer service at my my hosting company -- they had absolutely no clue, and drove me crazy. I am so glad I found this post/conversation, and am so grateful that you actually replied with instructions. It literally saved my life. I am not sure if
    anyone understands how big of a deal it was for me. Thank you so much for your help!
    Barbara

    Many of us have been through this or something similar. Once you get to like a program like Eudora, you don't want to give it up.

    I'm glad it's working for you again. :)

    --

    Rick C.

    + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to gnuarm.del...@gmail.com on Thu Apr 20 05:03:10 2023
    On Thursday, 20 April 2023 at 05:46:35 UTC+1, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 10:14:44 PM UTC-4, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:19:33 PM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 16:03:34 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:57:21 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Friday, 7 April 2023 at 00:35:56 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web
    scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Hi Barbara, sorry for the delay in replying.
    How did you apply the Hermes update, did you use the full installer or the zip file which just contains the updated files?
    If the latter, as you seem to be saying, you should have replaced the libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, ssleay32.dll, and rootcerts.p7b files in the Eudora program files folder with the versions in the zip file. Did you also extract the vcredist.exe
    file and run it? It contains a system update which you may need. If you just get an error message when you run it, just close it. It means that the update is already installed.
    HTH. Dave.
    Hi Dave,
    Thank you for your reply!
    I extracted the files and run the vcredist, but it says it's already installed on my computer, and that I should uninstall the existing one first. I am not sure if it's needed.
    I copied the files you listed above into the eudora folder, and still does not work.
    I will contact my hosting company again tomorrow, but they were no help last three times I called them (they don't even understand why would anyone want to keep their mail client/program). Basically, I think it has to do with SSL/TLS connection
    authentication, as the TLS1.2 is the new current one?
    I know it's too hard for you to guess what's wrong with someone's set up, but the conflict came upon me so suddenly, I am still in shock and don't know where to turn.
    Thanks again, Barbara.

    Just to confirm, you do have 'Required, Alternate Port' selected in 'Secure Sockets' for send and receive on the persona you're using?
    What happens if you click the 'Last SSL Info' button after trying to receive or send? Does it say there was a connection made, and if there was, what was the SSL version used?
    CORRECTION
    I CHANGED THE PORTS SELECTION PER YOUR ADVICE ABOVE AND IT WORKED!!! Customer service at my my hosting company -- they had absolutely no clue, and drove me crazy. I am so glad I found this post/conversation, and am so grateful that you actually replied with instructions. It literally saved my life. I am not sure if
    anyone understands how big of a deal it was for me. Thank you so much for your help!
    Barbara
    Many of us have been through this or something similar. Once you get to like a program like Eudora, you don't want to give it up.

    I'm glad it's working for you again. :)
    --

    Rick C.

    Yes, I'm so glad to hear that Barbara!
    Hopefully Eudora will continue to work for you now.
    Cheers, Dave.

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  • From Barbara Lewandowska@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 21 18:19:53 2023
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 8:03:11 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Thursday, 20 April 2023 at 05:46:35 UTC+1, gnuarm.del...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 10:14:44 PM UTC-4, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 1:19:33 PM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Sunday, 16 April 2023 at 16:03:34 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:57:21 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Friday, 7 April 2023 at 00:35:56 UTC+1, Barbara Lewandowska wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-5, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 10:32:19 UTC, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
    SOLUTION:
    the help desk told me to uncheck the box: disable encrypted web
    scanning.
    Now Eudora seems to be working fine.
    Anyway THANKS for your availability.
    Very pleased that you found the cause!
    I did have a suspicion that the problem wasn't actually in Eudora, as all of your 25 accounts being affected the same made no sense as Hermes was apparently working fine to make the TLS v1.2 connections.
    I hope it now keeps working!
    Cheers, Dave.
    Hello Dave, I see your post is from a couple of years ago, but seems you went through the same problem I encountered right now.

    I am another "die hard" eudora user, and have the TLS v1.2 connection problem - can't connect to the server. I tried to copy Herm SSL files but it didn't work for me. Could you post any tips? May be I am missing something.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Hi Barbara, sorry for the delay in replying.
    How did you apply the Hermes update, did you use the full installer or the zip file which just contains the updated files?
    If the latter, as you seem to be saying, you should have replaced the libeay32.dll, QCSSL.dll, ssleay32.dll, and rootcerts.p7b files in the Eudora program files folder with the versions in the zip file. Did you also extract the vcredist.exe
    file and run it? It contains a system update which you may need. If you just get an error message when you run it, just close it. It means that the update is already installed.
    HTH. Dave.
    Hi Dave,
    Thank you for your reply!
    I extracted the files and run the vcredist, but it says it's already installed on my computer, and that I should uninstall the existing one first. I am not sure if it's needed.
    I copied the files you listed above into the eudora folder, and still does not work.
    I will contact my hosting company again tomorrow, but they were no help last three times I called them (they don't even understand why would anyone want to keep their mail client/program). Basically, I think it has to do with SSL/TLS connection
    authentication, as the TLS1.2 is the new current one?
    I know it's too hard for you to guess what's wrong with someone's set up, but the conflict came upon me so suddenly, I am still in shock and don't know where to turn.
    Thanks again, Barbara.

    Just to confirm, you do have 'Required, Alternate Port' selected in 'Secure Sockets' for send and receive on the persona you're using?
    What happens if you click the 'Last SSL Info' button after trying to receive or send? Does it say there was a connection made, and if there was, what was the SSL version used?
    CORRECTION
    I CHANGED THE PORTS SELECTION PER YOUR ADVICE ABOVE AND IT WORKED!!! Customer service at my my hosting company -- they had absolutely no clue, and drove me crazy. I am so glad I found this post/conversation, and am so grateful that you actually replied with instructions. It literally saved my life. I am not sure if
    anyone understands how big of a deal it was for me. Thank you so much for your help!
    Barbara
    Many of us have been through this or something similar. Once you get to like a program like Eudora, you don't want to give it up.

    I'm glad it's working for you again. :)
    --

    Rick C.

    Yes, I'm so glad to hear that Barbara!
    Hopefully Eudora will continue to work for you now.
    Cheers, Dave.

    I am so glad I found this conversation, and nice people willing to help. Thank you again.
    Cheers!
    Barbara

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