• Continuing troubles wil mail addresses

    From Kaelkitty@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 8 22:35:45 2021
    I have given up on Gmail as I just can't make it work. I ended up buying a domain from GoDaddy and setting up the new emails through them. I have managed to get MailWasher to download messages to check them for spam but I still cant get Eudora to send
    and receive messages. I just don't know what I am doing wrong.

    My last attempt produced the following three error messages:

    Lois Colleen Tucker, SSL: 3 messages left to send., MAIL FROM: <loistucker@kaelkitty.com>

    Jacq Felis, SSL: 1 messages left to send., MAIL FROM: <jacqfelis@kaelkitty.com>

    Lois Colleen Tucker, Logging into POP Server, PASS [01:49:32 PM]

    I am exhausted and paying for the GoDaddy account was painful - I still think I need to take that up with them, as I think they have charged me for something I don't think I need (Microsoft Office?).

    Anyway, you have been a big help before, so I am hoping you will be able to help again,

    Yours Sincerely,
    Kaelkitty.

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  • From Dennis Lee Bieber@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 9 13:29:25 2021
    On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 22:35:45 -0700 (PDT), Kaelkitty <jacqfelis@gmail.com> declaimed the following:


    My last attempt produced the following three error messages:

    Lois Colleen Tucker, SSL: 3 messages left to send., MAIL FROM: <loistucker@kaelkitty.com>

    Jacq Felis, SSL: 1 messages left to send., MAIL FROM: <jacqfelis@kaelkitty.com>

    Lois Colleen Tucker, Logging into POP Server, PASS [01:49:32 PM]


    What you have quoted are not, themselves, error messages -- merely status/progress reports.

    Have you installed/activated the "esoteric" plug-in? {I don't recall if it is needed for the full logging system, but shouldn't hurt}

    Tools / Options
    Logging

    [X] everything except "Search and Search Indexing" -- especially [X] the
    All Bytes Sent/Received.

    Attempt to send some emails. Then exit Eudora and open the log file. Look for the transactions related to the attempt. It might be easier if you first empty the log file, then start Eudora and send one message, exit --
    you should then have only the one transaction to review.

    NOTE: if you choose to cut&paste the log into a follow-up post, be sure to obscure the password sends.
    I am exhausted and paying for the GoDaddy account was painful - I still think I need to take that up with them, as I think they have charged me for something I don't think I need (Microsoft Office?).

    Anyway, you have been a big help before, so I am hoping you will be able to help again,

    Yours Sincerely,
    Kaelkitty.


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    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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  • From Kaelkitty@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 15 23:43:30 2021
    Hi, it's me again,

    Lois Colleen Tucker, Logging into POP Server, PASS [01:49:32 PM]
    Some Progress at last: I have fixed this error; Somehow Mom's password wasn't working at all. Once I re-entered it all was well.

    So, now I am in a position where I can receive emails from both of my new addresses, but I can't send them from the new addresses - this is pretty critical, don't you think? I tried expanding the size my task errors box and found a lot more information -
    the messages actually read:

    Lois Colleen Tucker, SSL: 3 messages left to send., MAIL FROM: <loistucker@kaelkitty.com> [03:06:44 PM]
    There has been an error transferring your mail. I said MAIL FROM: <loistucker@kaelkitty.com> and then the SMTP server said 530 5.7.57 Client not authenticated to send mail. Error 535.5.7.139 Authentication unsuccessful, SmtpClientAuthentication is
    disabled for the Tenant. Visit https://aka.ms/smtp_suth_disabled for more information [SY2PR01CA0023.ausprd01.prod outlook.com]

    Jacq Felis, SSL: 1 messages left to send., MAIL FROM: <jacqfelis@kaelkitty.com> [03:04:15 PM]
    There has been an error transferring your mail. I said MAIL FROM: <jacqfelis@kaelkitty.com> and then the SMTP server said 530 5.7.57 Client not authenticated to send mail. Error 535.5.7.139 Authentication unsuccessful, SmtpClientAuthentication is
    disabled for the Tenant. Visit https://aka.ms/smtp_suth_disabled for more information [SYXPR01CA0089.ausprd01.prod outlook.com]

    Most of this means nothing to me beyond the fact that it is stopping me from sending mail! Does anyone have any idea what I do now?



    Yours Sincerely,
    Kaelkitty.

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  • From Dennis Lee Bieber@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 16 12:38:35 2021
    On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 23:43:30 -0700 (PDT), Kaelkitty <jacqfelis@gmail.com> declaimed the following:


    Lois Colleen Tucker, SSL: 3 messages left to send., MAIL FROM: <loistucker@kaelkitty.com> [03:06:44 PM]
    There has been an error transferring your mail. I said MAIL FROM: <loistucker@kaelkitty.com> and then the SMTP server said 530 5.7.57 Client not authenticated to send mail. Error 535.5.7.139 Authentication unsuccessful, SmtpClientAuthentication is
    disabled for the Tenant. Visit https://aka.ms/smtp_suth_disabled for more information [SY2PR01CA0023.ausprd01.prod outlook.com]

    Well, first it seems you have a typo in that error message... The closest working link has "auth", not "suth", and forwards to

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients-and-mobile-in-exchange-online/authenticated-client-smtp-submission

    Most of that link is irrelevant since it discusses changing Express (the SERVER) configuration. Note: Eudora does not use OAuth -- and never can.

    Again, having full logging enabled, and perusing the log for the SMTP connection could reveal the problem. One common problem is that the server indicates that it can use CRAM-MD5 authentication, but then rejects
    whatever Eudora sends using that protocol. You may have to add

    SMTPAuthBanished=CRAM-MD5

    to the Eudora.ini file [settings] block (it applies to ALL personalities
    you may have defined). Banning that mode leaves just LOGIN and I think, PLAINTEXT. The log file should show a line from the server showing the protocols it will accept; if not banished and the server offers it, Eudora
    will pick that protocol over any others.

    You may also have incorrect settings for the SMTP port. Open the personality properties and verify that you have

    [X] Authentication allowed
    [ ] Use relay personality...
    [X] Use submission port (587)

    [If Available, STARTTLS]

    (submission port based upon the web link)


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    Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to Kaelkitty on Sat Apr 17 04:58:44 2021
    On Friday, 16 April 2021 at 07:43:31 UTC+1, Kaelkitty wrote:
    Hi, it's me again,
    Lois Colleen Tucker, Logging into POP Server, PASS [01:49:32 PM]
    Some Progress at last: I have fixed this error; Somehow Mom's password wasn't working at all. Once I re-entered it all was well.

    So, now I am in a position where I can receive emails from both of my new addresses, but I can't send them from the new addresses - this is pretty critical, don't you think? I tried expanding the size my task errors box and found a lot more information
    - the messages actually read:

    Lois Colleen Tucker, SSL: 3 messages left to send., MAIL FROM: <loist...@kaelkitty.com> [03:06:44 PM]
    There has been an error transferring your mail. I said MAIL FROM: <loist...@kaelkitty.com> and then the SMTP server said 530 5.7.57 Client not authenticated to send mail. Error 535.5.7.139 Authentication unsuccessful, SmtpClientAuthentication is
    disabled for the Tenant. Visit https://aka.ms/smtp_suth_disabled for more information [SY2PR01CA0023.ausprd01.prod outlook.com]

    Jacq Felis, SSL: 1 messages left to send., MAIL FROM: <jacq...@kaelkitty.com> [03:04:15 PM]
    There has been an error transferring your mail. I said MAIL FROM: <jacq...@kaelkitty.com> and then the SMTP server said 530 5.7.57 Client not authenticated to send mail. Error 535.5.7.139 Authentication unsuccessful, SmtpClientAuthentication is
    disabled for the Tenant. Visit https://aka.ms/smtp_suth_disabled for more information [SYXPR01CA0089.ausprd01.prod outlook.com]

    Most of this means nothing to me beyond the fact that it is stopping me from sending mail! Does anyone have any idea what I do now?



    Yours Sincerely,
    Kaelkitty.
    If you look in the "Last SSL Info" for the personality, does it show you that you made a connection, and if so at what level was it, TLSv1?

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  • From Kaelkitty@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 3 17:08:06 2021
    It is WORKING, at LAST! It turned out to be something wrong at GoDaddy's end. You have no idea how many phone calls I have had to make to get this working. I want to say a big thank you to everyone who helped along the way. Now I've only got the
    lovely job of changing all my logins, and notifying all my correspondents of the change!

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to Kaelkitty on Tue May 4 03:52:04 2021
    On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 01:08:07 UTC+1, Kaelkitty wrote:
    It is WORKING, at LAST! It turned out to be something wrong at GoDaddy's end. You have no idea how many phone calls I have had to make to get this working. I want to say a big thank you to everyone who helped along the way. Now I've only got the lovely
    job of changing all my logins, and notifying all my correspondents of the change!

    Glad it's sorted out!

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  • From Desmond Brown@21:1/5 to Kaelkitty on Thu Jun 2 13:05:44 2022
    On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 8:08:07 PM UTC-4, Kaelkitty wrote:
    It is WORKING, at LAST! It turned out to be something wrong at GoDaddy's end. You have no idea how many phone calls I have had to make to get this working. I want to say a big thank you to everyone who helped along the way. Now I've only got the lovely
    job of changing all my logins, and notifying all my correspondents of the change!

    Can you please paste the fix? Surely the Godaddy helpdesk said what was wrong? They don't want to fix my error which is the same issue.

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  • From gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Desmond Brown on Fri Jun 3 05:06:21 2022
    On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 4:05:45 PM UTC-4, Desmond Brown wrote:
    On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 8:08:07 PM UTC-4, Kaelkitty wrote:
    It is WORKING, at LAST! It turned out to be something wrong at GoDaddy's end. You have no idea how many phone calls I have had to make to get this working. I want to say a big thank you to everyone who helped along the way. Now I've only got the
    lovely job of changing all my logins, and notifying all my correspondents of the change!
    Can you please paste the fix? Surely the Godaddy helpdesk said what was wrong? They don't want to fix my error which is the same issue.

    I think the error is letting Godaddy host your domain. There are many, many other hosting outfits out there. I don't even use Godaddy for registering my domain name anymore.

    I am currently using a hosting company called Monsterhost, not to be confused with Host Monster. They have their issues for sure. But if you pay an extra $25 a year, you can get a dedicated IP address which prevents problems with being spam blacklisted,
    while a shared IP address can often be blacklisted because of others. They are also pretty inexpensive with an entry plan for $3.30 a month. I have the reseller plan at $11 a month which allows multiple sites to be hosted.

    Just a thought.

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