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My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

Charlie
--
Nobody in this country got rich on his own. You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for. You hired workers we
all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory.
But take a hunk and pay it forward. Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)

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On 2017-10-15 06:01:32 +0000, Charles H. Sampson said:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

Charlie

You can create easily different accounts within Mail, and each will get
their own sub-folder in the Inbox, Drafts, etc. folders

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In article <1ndwqfw.g5lou8vapvb0N%csampson@inetworld.net>,
csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

You could have different user accounts... If you then want to share
documents you can have a shared folder outside the /Users hierarchy.
Like /Family or you could create /Users/Family if you like and give
permissions for it to yourself and your wife.
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In article <1ndwqfw.g5lou8vapvb0N%csampson@inetworld.net>, Charles H.
Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

the usual way is for each person to have their own login account, in
which they can set up apple mail (or any other email app) any way they
want.

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<1ndwqfw.g5lou8vapvb0N%csampson@inetworld.net>, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote (écrivait) :

Eudora's personalities to access more than one mailbox on our ISP

Eudora's personalities are now "Preferences -> Accounts" in Apple Mail.

--
Jean-Pierre Kuypers

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In message <1ndwqfw.g5lou8vapvb0N%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

I do not remember that feature. Are you talking about a single account
that is using two mailboxes to fake two accounts?

I suspect it's just two accounts, and Mail app certainly supports that
(I have about a dozen accounts configured, though I generally used only
five).

--
Chico: You sing-a high. Connie: Yes, I have a falsetto voice. Chico:
That's-a funny; my last pupil she had-a false set-a teeth.

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In message <here-61B13F.10560315102017@news.individual.net> android <here@there.was> wrote:

In article <1ndwqfw.g5lou8vapvb0N%csampson@inetworld.net>,
csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

You could have different user accounts... If you then want to share
documents you can have a shared folder outside the /Users hierarchy.
Like /Family or you could create /Users/Family if you like and give permissions for it to yourself and your wife.

Or use the existing /Users/Shared/

--
You are in my inappropriate thoughts

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In article <151020170557468298%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

In article <1ndwqfw.g5lou8vapvb0N%csampson@inetworld.net>, Charles H.
Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

the usual way is for each person to have their own login account, in
which they can set up apple mail (or any other email app) any way they
want.

Most such applications have something like personalities. Only they are
called accounts. In the prefs you set up a new account, supply it with username, password, name of mail server, your name, name of SMTP server
(for sending mail), your email address. And optionally tell it if you
want to do authentication when sending mail (there may be other stuff
about ports, too). Often the username is the same as your email
address, but doesn't have to be.

Essentially, that's it. Then you can start receiving mail and sending
mail using your new account. If you have more that one account with
your ISP, that's just a separate account.

I have five accounts, only one of which is via my ISP.

If you think Apple's Mail app doesn't have this feature, you most
likely haven't looked. I don't use it so don't know (I wrote my own
email client).

--
Socialism: For people who lack the charisma to be train spotters.

Ann Sheridan

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In article <slrnou6lei.1rmv.g.kreme@snow.local>,
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

In message <here-61B13F.10560315102017@news.individual.net> android <here@there.was> wrote:

In article <1ndwqfw.g5lou8vapvb0N%csampson@inetworld.net>,
csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

You could have different user accounts... If you then want to share documents you can have a shared folder outside the /Users hierarchy.
Like /Family or you could create /Users/Family if you like and give permissions for it to yourself and your wife.

Or use the existing /Users/Shared/

Yes, but that one would have no protection at all towards additional
users. "drwxrwxrwt" owned root in wheel...
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android <here@there.was> wrote:

Yes, but that one would have no protection at all towards additional
users. "drwxrwxrwt" owned root in wheel...

Folders with other owners, groups, and permissions can be created within /Users/Shared.

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In article <1ndxeun.lhveveld0pkhN%nmassello@yahoo.com>,
nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) wrote:

android <here@there.was> wrote:

Yes, but that one would have no protection at all towards additional
users. "drwxrwxrwt" owned root in wheel...

Folders with other owners, groups, and permissions can be created within /Users/Shared.

No reason to that as you can create one with a not ambiguous name
outside it. Like: /Users/Family. That one would not be cluttered with
all kind of stuff put there by different prop apps.
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On 2017-10-15, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability.

Sure it does. They are just called "Accounts" instead. You can create as
many accounts as you want in Apple Mail, each pointing to its own email service/server.

Here's an Apple help page showing how to do it:

<https://support.apple.com/guide/mail/set-up-mail-with-your-email-accounts-mail35803>

You probably want to start here though:

<https://support.apple.com/mail>

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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android <here@there.was> wrote:

No reason to that as you can create one with a not ambiguous name
outside it. Like: /Users/Family. That one would not be cluttered with
all kind of stuff put there by different prop apps.

I have been reluctant to create new folders on the startup volume that
are outside my home folders or /Users/Shared for fear that they might
get blown away by some future system update or upgrade. My approach to
third party items that I don't want to see in /Users/Shared is to make
them invisible and to exclude them from backup scripts. I admit that's
not as elegant as a folder in /Users, but I think it's safer.

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In article <f4hardFs2oU1@mid.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2017-10-15, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such capability.

Sure it does. They are just called "Accounts" instead. You can create as
many accounts as you want in Apple Mail, each pointing to its own email service/server.

Here's an Apple help page showing how to do it:

<https://support.apple.com/guide/mail/set-up-mail-with-your-email-accounts-mai
l35803>

You probably want to start here though:

<https://support.apple.com/mail>

I used to use Eudora some decade 'n a half ago so out of pure curiosity,
so need to say "Thanks" I invested five nanosec in this and found this
helpful thread on the interwebs:

<https://forums.adobe.com/thread/278730>

As useful as that may be i still think that different users should have different accounts and store for them common documents in a designated
and protected folder outside their respective home ones. As described
elsewhere in this thread.
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Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

Thanks to all. I'm sorry to have bothered you because of my inability to
find the Accounts feature on my own. It certainly sounds like what I
need.

Charlie
--
Nobody in this country got rich on his own. You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for. You hired workers we
all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory.
But take a hunk and pay it forward. Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)

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Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:

My wife and I both use Eudora's personalities to access more than one
mailbox on our ISP. As well as I can tell. Apple Mail has no such
capability. If I'm right, what is the usual way of handling this? Is
there another mail application that has something like personalities?

Charlie

I just have several addresses, all but one for assorted mailing lists I
follow.

--
biblioholic medievalist via iPad

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In message <here-FBE057.16445715102017@news.individual.net> android <here@there.was> wrote:

In article <1ndxeun.lhveveld0pkhN%nmassello@yahoo.com>,
nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) wrote:

android <here@there.was> wrote:

Yes, but that one would have no protection at all towards additional
users. "drwxrwxrwt" owned root in wheel...

Folders with other owners, groups, and permissions can be created within
/Users/Shared.

No reason to that as you can create one with a not ambiguous name
outside it. Like: /Users/Family. That one would not be cluttered with
all kind of stuff put there by different prop apps.

What are you talking about? I don't have anything in /Users/Shared I
didn't put there.


--
"I've seen Mary Poppins over 500 times. Not by choice. It's a
compulsion known as Supercalifragilisticexpialadotia"

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In article <slrnou87r3.2403.g.kreme@snow.local>,
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

In message <here-FBE057.16445715102017@news.individual.net> android <here@there.was> wrote:

In article <1ndxeun.lhveveld0pkhN%nmassello@yahoo.com>,
nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) wrote:

android <here@there.was> wrote:

Yes, but that one would have no protection at all towards additional
users. "drwxrwxrwt" owned root in wheel...

Folders with other owners, groups, and permissions can be created within >> /Users/Shared.

No reason to that as you can create one with a not ambiguous name
outside it. Like: /Users/Family. That one would not be cluttered with
all kind of stuff put there by different prop apps.

What are you talking about? I don't have anything in /Users/Shared I
didn't put there.

Some third party apps use it. Try "ls -al /Users/Shared/"...
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Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

I don't have anything in /Users/Shared I didn't put there.

My /Users/Shared has one file and six folders that I didn't put there.
The proper place for all of them should have been one of the Library
folders; but at least VueScan and iStat Menus mitigate the offense by
making theirs invisible with dots and EyeTV by putting its files in a /Users/Shared/Library/Preferences folder. I suppose we have to be
content that developers have (mostly) stopped dumping things in
~/Documents.

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In message <here-AF76D2.06062616102017@news.individual.net> android <here@there.was> wrote:

In article <slrnou87r3.2403.g.kreme@snow.local>,
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

In message <here-FBE057.16445715102017@news.individual.net> android
<here@there.was> wrote:

In article <1ndxeun.lhveveld0pkhN%nmassello@yahoo.com>,
nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) wrote:

android <here@there.was> wrote:

Yes, but that one would have no protection at all towards additional
users. "drwxrwxrwt" owned root in wheel...

Folders with other owners, groups, and permissions can be created within >> >> /Users/Shared.

No reason to that as you can create one with a not ambiguous name
outside it. Like: /Users/Family. That one would not be cluttered with
all kind of stuff put there by different prop apps.

What are you talking about? I don't have anything in /Users/Shared I
didn't put there.

Some third party apps use it. Try "ls -al /Users/Shared/"...

It's been years since I saw a third party app put anything there.
(Blizzard used to litter that with dozens of copies of their launcher
app, but no more).

As I said, I do not have anything in /Users/Shared that I didn't put
there myself.


--
I WILL NOT SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM Bart chalkboard Ep. AABF03

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Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

In message <here-AF76D2.06062616102017@news.individual.net> android <here@there.was> wrote:

In article <slrnou87r3.2403.g.kreme@snow.local>,
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

In message <here-FBE057.16445715102017@news.individual.net> android
<here@there.was> wrote:

In article <1ndxeun.lhveveld0pkhN%nmassello@yahoo.com>,
nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) wrote:

android <here@there.was> wrote:

Yes, but that one would have no protection at all towards additional >> >> > users. "drwxrwxrwt" owned root in wheel...

Folders with other owners, groups, and permissions can be created within
/Users/Shared.

No reason to that as you can create one with a not ambiguous name
outside it. Like: /Users/Family. That one would not be cluttered with
all kind of stuff put there by different prop apps.

What are you talking about? I don't have anything in /Users/Shared I
didn't put there.

Some third party apps use it. Try "ls -al /Users/Shared/"...

It's been years since I saw a third party app put anything there.
(Blizzard used to litter that with dozens of copies of their launcher
app, but no more).

I beg to differ. StarCraft II has over a 1 GB of stuff in /Users/Shared/Battle.net and /Users/Shared/Blizzard which is updated
regularly, including several applications.

I have several other applications that have put stuff in
/Users/Shared/Library and several more that have put visible folders in /Users/Shared (some containing hidden files). Also a few ancient hidden
ones dating back to Tiger/Leopard, most of which I can't identify.

Apple also puts hidden files in /Users/Shared relating to beta programme enrollment, and iTunes/iBooks Store has some obscurely named hidden
folders "SC Info" and "adi". My copy of the latter hasn't been modified
since 2016 but SC Info was updated recently.

--
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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In message <1ne1gxl.6yqstzh32b87N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

In message <here-AF76D2.06062616102017@news.individual.net> android
<here@there.was> wrote:

In article <slrnou87r3.2403.g.kreme@snow.local>,
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

In message <here-FBE057.16445715102017@news.individual.net> android
<here@there.was> wrote:

In article <1ndxeun.lhveveld0pkhN%nmassello@yahoo.com>,
nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) wrote:

android <here@there.was> wrote:

Yes, but that one would have no protection at all towards additional >> >> >> > users. "drwxrwxrwt" owned root in wheel...

Folders with other owners, groups, and permissions can be created within
/Users/Shared.

No reason to that as you can create one with a not ambiguous name
outside it. Like: /Users/Family. That one would not be cluttered with >> >> > all kind of stuff put there by different prop apps.

What are you talking about? I don't have anything in /Users/Shared I
didn't put there.

Some third party apps use it. Try "ls -al /Users/Shared/"...

It's been years since I saw a third party app put anything there.
(Blizzard used to litter that with dozens of copies of their launcher
app, but no more).

I beg to differ. StarCraft II has over a 1 GB of stuff in /Users/Shared/Battle.net and /Users/Shared/Blizzard which is updated regularly, including several applications.

Oops. I was sshed into a different machine than the WoW machine. Yes,
Blizzard still puts two folders of litter in /Users/Shared (but only
23MB total for me). Nothing else is in there.

I have several other applications that have put stuff in /Users/Shared/Library and several more that have put visible folders in /Users/Shared (some containing hidden files). Also a few ancient hidden
ones dating back to Tiger/Leopard, most of which I can't identify.

There used to be stuff, but no more.

Apple also puts hidden files in /Users/Shared relating to beta programme enrollment,

well, just teh one, right?

and iTunes/iBooks Store has some obscurely named hidden folders "SC
Info" and "adi". My copy of the latter hasn't been modified since 2016
but SC Info was updated recently.

Hmm. I don't do iBooks on my Mac anymore. Since iCloud synicng works and
I have all my books in Calibre anyway, the Mac iBooks seems irrelevant to
me.

--
NOTHING IS FINAL. NOTHING IS ABSOLUTE. EXCEPT ME, OF COURSE. SUCH
TINKERING WITH DESTINY COULD MEAN THE DOWNFALL OF THE WORLD. THERE MUST
BE A CHANCE, HOWEVER SMALL. THE LAWYERS OF FATE DEMAND A LOOPHOLE IN
EVERY PROPHECY. --Sourcery

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In article <151020171231559814%Kuypers@address.invalid>,
Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> wrote:

In article (Dans l'article)
<1ndwqfw.g5lou8vapvb0N%csampson@inetworld.net>, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote (écrivait) :

Eudora's personalities to access more than one mailbox on our ISP

Eudora's personalities are now "Preferences -> Accounts" in Apple Mail.

This is not quite true. Eudora's personalities were much more powerful.
You could actually have multiple personalities for a single account.
Each personality could identify itself in different ways. So they might
have different name fields, different signatures, etc. But all using the
same single e-mail account.

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