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    From Robert Wolfe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 6 00:55:24 2019
    Hi all!

    I was wondering if anyone still offered a UUCP email feed for Internet
    email only? And, if so, if I could be pointed towards their direction?

    Thanks!

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Robert Wolfe on Fri Sep 6 15:17:16 2019
    On 9/5/19 6:55 PM, Robert Wolfe wrote:
    Hi all!

    Hi,

    I was wondering if anyone still offered a UUCP email feed for Internet
    email only? And, if so, if I could be pointed towards their direction?

    Email me directly.

    I have some requirements, but I bet that we can make things work.

    · I'll want to know what email addresses are valid so that I can
    reject invalid email addresses.
    · I'll want to chat about your expected outbound email rate.
    · I'll default to using the same ingress filtering that I'm using.

    I'll also want to know more about what sort of UUCP connection you want
    to make:

    · UUCP-over-SSH
    · UUCP-over-TCP-Encrypted
    · UUCP-over-TCP-Unencrypted
    · UUCP-bag-collection
    · SSH
    · SCP
    · FTPS
    · FTP
    · Other

    Finally, I can also offer text-only Usenet feed via UUCP if you are
    interested.

    Thanks!

    You're welcome.



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    Grant. . . .
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  • From =?UTF-8?B?UmFkaW0gS29sw6HFmQ==?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 7 08:08:09 2019
    Finally, I can also offer text-only Usenet feed via UUCP if you are interested.
    Do you have some Usenet subscription management software? ideally uucp node can sent email to subscribe itself to desired newsgrouop and then get batched news.

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 7 11:20:59 2019
    On 9/7/19 9:08 AM, Radim Kolář wrote:
    Do you have some Usenet subscription management software?

    What do you mean by "Usenet subscription management software"?

    My experience with Usenet / news servers is that you establish a feed, specifying what newsgroups you (don't) want and then receive the
    articles that are sent to you. I'm not aware of any automated way to
    manage that specification of what newsgroups you (don't) want. You can
    always send an email to your peer and ask them to modify your feed.

    I've never heard of Usenet / news servers operating more like a mailing
    list manager with subscriptions.

    That being said, it is concevibly possible to configure news to email
    gateways that feed into a mailing list manager and then subscribe to the separate mailing lists as you see fit. But that would be a LOT of
    mailing lists.

    ideally uucp node can sent email to subscribe itself to desired
    newsgrouop and then get batched news.

    I've never heard of anything like that.

    Usenet / news via UUCP would arrive in batches, but it would be based on
    the way that the newsmaster configured the feed based on what the
    receiving peer indicated that they wanted.



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    Grant. . . .
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  • From Martin Burmester@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 8 11:47:55 2019
    Hi,

    Am 07.09.2019 um 19:20 schrieb Grant Taylor:> On 9/7/19 9:08 AM, Radim
    Kolář wrote:
    Do you have some Usenet subscription management software?

    What do you mean by "Usenet subscription management software"?

    My experience with Usenet / news servers is that you establish a feed, specifying what newsgroups you (don't) want and then receive the
    articles that are sent to you. I'm not aware of any automated way to
    manage that specification of what newsgroups you (don't) want. You can always send an email to your peer and ask them to modify your feed.
    There is gup[1] which automates that process. The user sends commands
    via email according to wich the gup software adjusts the newsfeeds file.

    I used to interact with that back in the day, but I never bothered to
    set that up myself and just process change requests manually.

    Cheers,
    Martin

    [1] https://packages.debian.org/gup

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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 8 15:16:23 2019
    From: Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
    Subject: Re: UUCP Email Only Feed

    On 9/7/19 9:08 AM, Radim Kolář wrote:
    Do you have some Usenet subscription management software?

    What do you mean by "Usenet subscription management software"?

    My experience with Usenet / news servers is that you establish a feed specifying what newsgroups you (don't) want and then receive the
    articles that are sent to you. I'm not aware of any automated way to
    manage that specification of what newsgroups you (don't) want. You c
    always send an email to your peer and ask them to modify your feed.

    I've never heard of Usenet / news servers operating more like a maili
    list manager with subscriptions.

    Or like a Fidonet-connected BBS like mine :)

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Robert Wolfe on Sun Sep 8 10:58:02 2019
    On 9/8/19 9:16 AM, Robert Wolfe wrote:
    Or like a Fidonet-connected BBS like mine :)

    Don't FidoNet echos (term?) get transferred to all connected systems
    much like Usenet?

    Sure, BBS clients can choose which echo they read. But I think all the
    echos (and all the messages there in) still get transferred to the node
    even if nobody is reading them.



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  • From =?UTF-8?B?UmFkaW0gS29sw6HFmQ==?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 8 11:38:01 2019
    But I think all the echos (and all the messages there in) still get transferred to the node even if nobody is reading them.
    Fidonet Nodes are using special netmail address AREAFIX with subject password for subscribing to conference. This is handled by echomail processor. If you do not subscribe your node, you will not get it from uplink. Of course if you carry some echomail
    no user on your system can be interested in reading.

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 9 21:29:15 2019
    On 9/8/19 12:38 PM, Radim Kolář wrote:
    Fidonet Nodes are using special netmail address AREAFIX with subject
    password for subscribing to conference. This is handled by echomail processor. If you do not subscribe your node, you will not get it
    from uplink. Of course if you carry some echomail no user on your
    system can be interested in reading.

    Hum. That's new information to me. But I've done exceedingly little
    with FidoNet or other FTNs.



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    Grant. . . .
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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 12 23:14:52 2019
    From: Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
    Subject: Re: UUCP Email Only Feed

    On 9/8/19 12:38 PM, Radim Kolář wrote:
    Fidonet Nodes are using special netmail address AREAFIX with
    subject
    password for subscribing to conference. This is handled by echomail processor. If you do not subscribe your node, you will not get it
    from uplink. Of course if you carry some echomail no user on your
    system can be interested in reading.

    Hum. That's new information to me. But I've done exceedingly little
    with FidoNet or other FTNs.

    Yeah, I've been running a Fido-connected BBS of some sort or another for
    the past 2 1/2 decades now. The BBS that I am posting this from now is
    no exception. :)

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  • From Robert Wolfe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 12 23:13:44 2019
    On 9/8/19 9:16 AM, Robert Wolfe wrote:
    Or like a Fidonet-connected BBS like mine :)

    Don't FidoNet echos (term?) get transferred to all connected systems
    much like Usenet?

    No, they do not. Connected systems only get messages in message areas
    they subscribe to from their host. For instance, I carry
    WILDCAT!_SUPPORT (which I also moderate), but other systems may not if
    the Sysop does not want to.


    Sure, BBS clients can choose which echo they read. But I think all t
    echos (and all the messages there in) still get transferred to the
    node even if nobody is reading them.

    I have echos on my system (Fidonet) that only I read any no one else
    reads). And then again, only if messages are actually in them.

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