• =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3a_Handling_retries_differently_for_=e2=80=98internal?= =?

    From None@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 18 15:02:34 2023

    You could use "Queue Groups" and change the retry times,
    but the overall timeout is global -- though there are
    some "suboptions", see doc/op/op.*, e.g.,

                 If  the  message  has  a  normal
              (default)  precedence  and  it is a delivery status
              notification  (DSN),  Timeout.queuereturn.dsn   and >>           Timeout.queuewarn.dsn can be used to give an alter-
              native warn and return time for  DSNs.


    Oh ok that looks quite interesting. Obviously I am a little worried that
    if something here is down mail is not going to be queued and bounced. So
    I would prefer to have something that is deciding on ‘infrastructure’ instead of something like this.

    QGRP:slow-poke.com      slowgroup
    QGRP:root@notify.com    fastgroup
    QGRP:your.domain        localgroup

    [1] https://etutorials.org/Server+Administration/Sendmail/Part+II+Administration/Chapter+11.+Manage+the+Queue/11.4+Queue+Groups+V8.12+and+Above/


    Would it be possible to ‘tag’ a message with eg. a message header and on the basis of this header the queue slowgroup is used?

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  • From None@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 18 14:58:30 2023

    Currently these are trying to deliver ndr's constantly to eg amm@dhl.com
    and bounce@nds.fedex.com.

    Why does your system generate DSNs?
    And why aren't those delivered?

    If ip ranges have been put on a specific blacklist, they will be treated
    as greylisting. In the greylist 4xx notification is a link that will
    allow the email through when it is clicked. Because these 4xx are not
    always (directly) communicated back to the sender, a message to the
    envelope is send also.
    This message is only send when the spf is valid (for invalid or no spf,
    no such message is send)

    Maybe you could fix those problems instead of trying to work around
    them and also affecting other mails?

    This is still in trial, for now I would like to see how this goes.

    Nice would be if such `external' messages would only be tried to
    delivered two or 3 times. For messages that have to be delivered to the

    And if there is a temporary problem you want the message to fail
    after 3 tries?

    Yes, currently I have countless tries.

    You could use "Queue Groups" and change the retry times,
    but the overall timeout is global -- though there are
    some "suboptions", see doc/op/op.*, e.g.,

    If the message has a normal
    (default) precedence and it is a delivery status
    notification (DSN), Timeout.queuereturn.dsn and
    Timeout.queuewarn.dsn can be used to give an alter-
    native warn and return time for DSNs.


    Oh ok that looks quite interesting. Obviously I am a little worried that
    if something here is down mail is not going to be queued and bounced. So
    I would prefer to have something that is deciding on ‘infrastructure’ instead of something like this.

    QGRP:slow-poke.com slowgroup
    QGRP:root@notify.com fastgroup
    QGRP:your.domain localgroup

    [1] https://etutorials.org/Server+Administration/Sendmail/Part+II+Administration/Chapter+11.+Manage+the+Queue/11.4+Queue+Groups+V8.12+and+Above/

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  • From Claus =?iso-8859-1?Q?A=DFmann?= @21:1/5 to None on Thu May 18 15:17:05 2023
    None wrote:

    Would it be possible to `tag' a message with eg. a message header and on
    the basis of this header the queue slowgroup is used?

    No.
    Only envelope information (RCPT address) is known when the ruleset
    is invoked.

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