sendmail version:

Version 8.15.2
Compiled with: DNSMAP IPV6_FULL LDAPMAP LDAP_REFERRALS LOG MAP_REGEX
MATCHGECOS MILTER MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINET6
NETUNIX NEWDB PIPELINING SASLv2 SCANF SOCKETMAP STARTTLS
TCPWRAPPERS USERDB USE_LDAP_INIT XDEBUG
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Just installed sendmail from ubuntu apt repo
when I ask the status of the freshly started emacs I see.

I'm sorry to through so much data out there but I hope someone is
willing to go through some of it. As must be obviouse I'm in dire
need of some coaching pointers URLS etc.
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systemctl status sendmail.service

root # systemctl status sendmail.service
● sendmail.service - LSB: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/sendmail; generated)
Active: active (exited) since Sun 2023-03-26 17:51:57 UTC; 1h 20min ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
CPU: 204ms

Mar 26 17:52:19 uw sm-mta[199282]: daemon MSA: problem creating SMTP socket
Mar 26 17:52:25 uw sm-mta[199282]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): opendaemonsocket: daemon MSA: cannot bind: Address already in use

Mar 26 17:52:25 uw sm-mta[199282]: daemon MSA: problem creating SMTP socket
Mar 26 17:52:30 uw sm-mta[199282]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): opendaemonsocket: daemon MSA: cannot bind: Address already in use

Mar 26 17:52:30 uw sm-mta[199282]: daemon MSA: problem creating SMTP socket
Mar 26 17:52:35 uw sm-mta[199282]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): opendaemonsocket: daemon MSA: cannot bind: Address already in use

Mar 26 17:52:35 uw sm-mta[199282]: daemon MSA: problem creating SMTP socket
Mar 26 17:52:40 uw sm-mta[199282]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): opendaemonsocket: daemon MSA: cannot bind: Address already in use

Mar 26 17:52:40 uw sm-mta[199282]: daemon MSA: problem creating SMTP socket
Mar 26 17:52:40 uw sm-mta[199282]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): opendaemonsocket: daemon MSA: server SMTP socket wedged: exiting

all seems to be pointing to something pretty badly wrong with submit.cf

I've included the current submit.mc and sendmail.mc.

m4'ing was done after conclusion of editing

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I mainly used these pages to try to get started

https://netcorecloud.com/tutorials/install-sendmail-server-centos-7/ https://mailoutgoing.com/support/mailrelay/sendmail.html https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/linux-network-administrators/1565924002/ch18s08.html

I didn't find much in those about editing submit.mc but took a few
tips seen in the submit.mc below startup messages.

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submit.mc
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divert(-1)dnl #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # $Sendmail: submit.mc,v 8.15.2 2021-12-09 00:18:01 cowboy Exp $
#
# Copyright (c) 2000-2010 Richard Nelson. All Rights Reserved.
#
# cf/debian/submit.mc. Generated from submit.mc.in by configure.
#
# submit.mc prototype config file for building Sendmail 8.15.2
#
# Note: the .in file supports 8.15.0 - 9.0.0, but the generated
# file is customized to the version noted above.
#
# This file is used to configure Sendmail for use with Debian systems.
#
# If you modify this file, you will have to regenerate /etc/mail/submit.cf
# by running this file through the m4 preprocessor via one of the following:
# * make (or make -C /etc/mail)
# * sendmailconfig
# * m4 /etc/mail/submit.mc > /etc/mail/submit.cf
# The first two options are preferred as they will also update other files
# that depend upon the contents of this file.
#
# The best documentation for this .mc file is:
# /usr/share/doc/sendmail-doc/cf.README.gz
# #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- divert(0)dnl
#
# Copyright (c) 2000-2002 Richard Nelson. All Rights Reserved.
#
# This file is used to configure Sendmail for use with Debian systems.
#
define(`_USE_ETC_MAIL_')dnl
include(`/usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl
VERSIONID(`$Id: submit.mc, v 8.15.2-22ubuntu3 2021-12-09 00:18:01 cowboy Exp $')
OSTYPE(`debian')dnl
DOMAIN(`debian-msp')dnl
dnl #
dnl #---------------------------------------------------------------------
dnl # Masquerading information, if needed, should go here
dnl # You likely will not need this, as the MTA will do it
dnl #---------------------------------------------------------------------
dnl MASQUERADE_AS()dnl
dnl FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')dnl
dnl #
dnl #---------------------------------------------------------------------
dnl # The real reason we're here: the FEATURE(msp)
dnl # NOTE WELL: MSA (587) should have M=Ea, so we need to use stock 25
dnl #--------------------------------------------------------------------- FEATURE(`msp', `[127.0.0.1]', `25')dnl
dnl #
dnl #---------------------------------------------------------------------
dnl # Some minor cleanup from FEATURE(msp)
dnl #---------------------------------------------------------------------
dnl #
dnl #---------------------------------------------------------------------

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sendmail.mc
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divert(-1)dnl #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # $Sendmail: debproto.mc,v 8.15.2 2021-12-09 00:18:01 cowboy Exp $
#
# Copyright (c) 1998-2010 Richard Nelson. All Rights Reserved.
#
# cf/debian/sendmail.mc. Generated from sendmail.mc.in by configure.
#
# sendmail.mc prototype config file for building Sendmail 8.15.2
#
# Note: the .in file supports 8.15.0 - 9.0.0, but the generated
# file is customized to the version noted above.
#
# This file is used to configure Sendmail for use with Debian systems.
#
# If you modify this file, you will have to regenerate /etc/mail/sendmail.cf
# by running this file through the m4 preprocessor via one of the following:
# * make (or make -C /etc/mail)
# * sendmailconfi
# * m4 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf
# The first two options are preferred as they will also update other files
# that depend upon the contents of this file.
#
# The best documentation for this .mc file is:
# /usr/share/doc/sendmail-doc/cf.README.gz
# #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- divert(0)dnl
#
# Copyright (c) 1998-2005 Richard Nelson. All Rights Reserved.
#
# This file is used to configure Sendmail for use with Debian systems.
#
define(`_USE_ETC_MAIL_')dnl
include(`/usr/share/sendmail/cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl
VERSIONID(`$Id: sendmail.mc, v 8.15.2-22ubuntu3 2021-12-09 00:18:01 cowboy Exp $')
OSTYPE(`debian')dnl
DOMAIN(`debian-mta')dnl
dnl # Items controlled by /etc/mail/sendmail.conf - DO NOT TOUCH HERE undefine(`confHOST_STATUS_DIRECTORY')dnl #DAEMON_HOSTSTATS=
dnl # Items controlled by /etc/mail/sendmail.conf - DO NOT TOUCH HERE
dnl #
dnl # General defines
dnl #
dnl # SAFE_FILE_ENV: [undefined] If set, sendmail will do a chroot()
dnl # into this directory before writing files.
dnl # If *all* your user accounts are under /home then use that
dnl # instead - it will prevent any writes outside of /home !
dnl # define(`confSAFE_FILE_ENV', `')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Daemon options - restrict to servicing LOCALHOST ONLY !!!
dnl # Remove `, Addr=' clauses to receive from any interface
dnl # If you want to support IPv6, switch the commented/uncommentd lines
dnl #
dnl ## ADDED by HP dnl
dnl ## HP from https://netcorecloud.com/tutorials/install-sendmail-server-centos-7/ dnl
define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp.fastmail.com')dnl
define(`RELAY_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 587')dnl
define(`ESMTP_MAILER_ARGS', `TCP $h 587')dnl
dnl hp end ADDED dnl
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
dnl hp Ditched the FEATURE authinfo .. although recommended at:dnl
dnl hp using access instead as recommended as working with any version sendmail dln
dnl hp see https://mailoutgoing.com/support/mailrelay/sendmail.html dnl
dnl hp FEATURE(`authinfo', `hash /etc/mail/auth/client-info.db')dnl FEATURE(`access_db', `hash -T<TMPF> -o /etc/mail/access.db')dnl

DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp, Name=MTA')dnl
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=submission, Name=MSA, M=Ea, Addr=127.0.0.1')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtps, Name=TLSMTA, M=s')dnl

dnl hp FEATURE(`no_default_msa')dnl
dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet6, Name=MTA-v6, Port=smtp, Addr=::1')dnl
dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MTA-v4, Port=smtp, Addr=127.0.0.1')dnl dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet6, Name=MSP-v6, Port=submission, M=Ea, Addr=::1')dnl
dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Family=inet, Name=MSP-v4, Port=submission, M=Ea, Addr=127.0.0.1')dnl
dnl #

dnl # Be somewhat anal in what we allow
define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS',dnl `needmailhelo,needexpnhelo,needvrfyhelo,restrictqrun,restrictexpand,nobodyreturn,authwarnings')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Define connection throttling and window length define(`confCONNECTION_RATE_THROTTLE', `15')dnl define(`confCONNECTION_RATE_WINDOW_SIZE',`10m')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Features
dnl #
dnl # use /etc/mail/local-host-names
FEATURE(`use_cw_file')dnl
dnl #
dnl # The access db is the basis for most of sendmail's checking
dnl FEATURE(`access_db', , `skip')dnl
dnl #
dnl # The greet_pause feature stops some automail bots - but check the
dnl # provided access db for details on excluding localhosts... FEATURE(`greet_pause', `1000')dnl 1 seconds
dnl #
dnl # Delay_checks allows sender<->recipient checking
FEATURE(`delay_checks', `friend', `n')dnl
dnl #
dnl # If we get too many bad recipients, slow things down... define(`confBAD_RCPT_THROTTLE',`3')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Stop connections that overflow our concurrent and time connection rates FEATURE(`conncontrol', `nodelay', `terminate')dnl
FEATURE(`ratecontrol', `nodelay', `terminate')dnl
dnl #
dnl # If you're on a dialup link, you should enable this - so sendmail
dnl # will not bring up the link (it will queue mail for later)
dnl define(`confCON_EXPENSIVE',`True')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Dialup/LAN connection overrides
dnl #
include(`/etc/mail/m4/dialup.m4')dnl
include(`/etc/mail/m4/provider.m4')dnl
dnl #
dnl # Default Mailer setup
MAILER_DEFINITIONS
MAILER(`smtp')dnl
MAILER(`procmail')dnl

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On 3/26/23 1:43 PM, hput wrote:

Just installed sendmail from ubuntu apt repo
when I ask the status of the freshly started emacs I see.

`emacs` or `sendmail`?

I'm sorry to through so much data out there but I hope someone is
willing to go through some of it. As must be obviouse I'm in dire
need of some coaching pointers URLS etc.

Well, the reason is written on the tin. But you need some familiarity
with Sendmail to understand what the tin is saying.

Mar 26 17:52:19 uw sm-mta[199282]: daemon MSA: problem creating SMTP socket Mar 26 17:52:25 uw sm-mta[199282]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): opendaemonsocket: daemon MSA: cannot bind: Address already in use

The MSA daemon(_port) can't bind to the address (that it's configured to
use) because the "Address (and port are) already in use".

/From/ /a/ /quick/ /glance/ at your submit.mc and sendmail.mc files, it
looks like both of them are trying to bind to port 25 on 127.0.0.1.
That's a conflict and won't work. ;-)



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On 3/26/23 3:49 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:

/From/ /a/ /quick/ /glance/

N.B. the emphasis is on me not spending much time and possibly ~> likely overlooking something else.

This is all about me, nothing about you.



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Am 26.03.2023 um 19:43:48 Uhr schrieb hput:

DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=submission, Name=MSA, M=Ea, Addr=127.0.0.1')dnl
dnl hp FEATURE(`no_default_msa')dnl

I am not an expert, but according to the documentation, the default is
that SM listens to 25 and 587 (submission).

https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/sendmail-4th-edition/9780596510299/ch17s08s35.html

FEATURE(`no_default_msa') disables listening on 587.

If you have DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=submission,...) enabled, this might be
a conflict, so try to enable FEATURE(`no_default_msa') or disable DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=submission by adding dnl at the beginning (m4
Syntax).

Then service sendmail restart (this creates the cf file in Ubuntu and
Debian).

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On 3/26/23 21:43, hput wrote:

Just installed sendmail from ubuntu apt repo

Mar 26 17:52:19 uw sm-mta[199282]: daemon MSA: problem creating SMTP socket Mar 26 17:52:25 uw sm-mta[199282]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): opendaemonsocket: daemon MSA: cannot bind: Address already in use

Is this the only MTA that you are running?
Could be postfix, msmtp, msmtp-mta already is installed and running and
those already bound the port.

You can try with "telnet 127.0.0.1 25" and look at the output to guess
or using "lsof -i", "netstat -lnp" or "ss -ap" to determine what is
already bound to port 25.

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Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:


[...]

/From/ /a/ /quick/ /glance/ at your submit.mc and sendmail.mc files,
it looks like both of them are trying to bind to port 25 on
127.0.0.1. That's a conflict and won't work. ;-)

Yes I see your point. It does look wrong.

Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> writes:

[...]

Thanks for input... see comment a the end

"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> writes:

[...]

Is this the only MTA that you are running?
Could be postfix, msmtp, msmtp-mta already is installed and running
and those already bound the port.

Yes, its the only one

You can try with "telnet 127.0.0.1 25" and look at the output to guess
or using "lsof -i", "netstat -lnp" or "ss -ap" to determine what is
already bound to port 25.

thanks.

All posters; thanks for taking the time to help and for giving helpful
input.

I'm going to retrench a bit and try installing sendmail from source
version 8.17.1.26 ... Hopefully I will learn enough in that process
from the lengthy documentation (whatever I am able to understand of it
that is), to be a little more confident about what I'm doing.

I'd like to install the executables in a trial place.... I know there
is a way to tell `configure' or `make' about a --prefix=some/trial/dir.

Can anyone say how that is done using sendmails `./Build' command?

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On 3/28/23 3:44 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Yes I see your point. It does look wrong.

;-)

All posters; thanks for taking the time to help and for giving helpful
input.

:-)

I'm going to retrench a bit and try installing sendmail from source
version 8.17.1.26 ... Hopefully I will learn enough in that process
from the lengthy documentation (whatever I am able to understand of
it that is), to be a little more confident about what I'm doing.

I *HIGHLY* recommend the README and cf/README files (namess from
memory). At least skim them so you have a vague idea of some things
you'll recognize when you run into them again. You might even want to
skim them twice, once to have an idea where something was and again to
skim ~ read for content while referencing things you now have an idea
where they are.

I also strongly recommend the Sendmail Installation and Operations Guide
at some point.

Those few files should get you started with a simple serviceable
configuration.

Also, please feel free to ask questions. You can also email me directly
if you don't want to discuss things in public.

I'd like to install the executables in a trial place.... I know there
is a way to tell `configure' or `make' about a --prefix=some/trial/dir.

Can anyone say how that is done using sendmails `./Build' command?

I think that's covered in the README file in the root of the (extracted)
source code directory.



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