I noticed that ($h) is quite slow on news groups. E.g., in comp.mail.pine,
I set nntp-range to 999. It took like 5 minutes. Same behavior on PC and >Linux. Alpine 2.26.
I really want to sort by threads. Wondering if there's any settings that
help improve that. Thanks!
Upgrade to SLRN or RN in Linux. Pine sux when using a large number of
Usenet newsgroups. With SLRN you can use SLRNPULL to download
newsgroup headers or articles every hour using a cronjob.
Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:
Upgrade to SLRN or RN in Linux. Pine sux when using a large number of
Usenet newsgroups. With SLRN you can use SLRNPULL to download
newsgroup headers or articles every hour using a cronjob.
I have used pine/alpine for email for nearly 29 years, but never really
as a news client. I have heard that slrn is good, but I have always
used tin. It is very easy to use and has enough features for my needs.
br,
KK
Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:
Upgrade to SLRN or RN in Linux. Pine sux when using a large number of
Usenet newsgroups. With SLRN you can use SLRNPULL to download
newsgroup headers or articles every hour using a cronjob.
I have used pine/alpine for email for nearly 29 years, but never really
as a news client. I have heard that slrn is good, but I have always
used tin. It is very easy to use and has enough features for my needs.
kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) writes:
Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:
Upgrade to SLRN or RN in Linux. Pine sux when using a large number of >>>Usenet newsgroups. With SLRN you can use SLRNPULL to download
newsgroup headers or articles every hour using a cronjob.
I have used pine/alpine for email for nearly 29 years, but never really
as a news client. I have heard that slrn is good, but I have always
used tin. It is very easy to use and has enough features for my needs.
br,
KK
I try to minimize learning new tools for every single job. Sad to see
alpine isn't up to that ambition.
I noticed that ($h) is quite slow on news groups. E.g., in comp.mail.pine,
I set nntp-range to 999. It took like 5 minutes. Same behavior on PC and Linux. Alpine 2.26.
I really want to sort by threads. Wondering if there's any settings that
help improve that. Thanks!
klu <klu@example.com> wrote:
kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) writes:
Sam <samt@samt.invalid> wrote:
Upgrade to SLRN or RN in Linux. Pine sux when using a large number
of
Usenet newsgroups. With SLRN you can use SLRNPULL to download
newsgroup headers or articles every hour using a cronjob.
I have used pine/alpine for email for nearly 29 years, but never
really
as a news client. I have heard that slrn is good, but I have always
used tin. It is very easy to use and has enough features for my
needs.
br,
KK
I try to minimize learning new tools for every single job. Sad to see >>alpine isn't up to that ambition.
Why don't you use the right tool for the right job and not complain
that
an email client isn't capable of washing your windows?
Why don't you use the right tool for the right job and not complain that
an email client isn't capable of washing your windows?
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023, klu wrote:
I noticed that ($h) is quite slow on news groups. E.g., in
comp.mail.pine,
I set nntp-range to 999. It took like 5 minutes. Same behavior on PC and
Linux. Alpine 2.26.
I really want to sort by threads. Wondering if there's any settings that
help improve that. Thanks!
The problem is that Alpine does not cache any information between
sessions and it always has to get that information from the server, so
this means that Alpine will have to request such information from the
server every time you open the newsgroup after you have closed it.
The only thing you can do is to save that information and access a
newsgroup as if it were a local folder. This means to make Alpine save
the messages to a local folder and access them locally. This is called a maildrop in Alpine. That is what I use and it is very fast, because it
is the same as local email access.
I don't care for alpine as a newsreader.
I am quite pleased with alpine as a mail client and I am quite grateful
to Eduardo for continuing to develop it and I think it takes quite a lot
of nerve to complain about it with respect to newsreading, given that
the client is simply a gift to the Internet community.
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
Why don't you use the right tool for the right job and not complain that
an email client isn't capable of washing your windows?
In case you did not know:
PINE = Program for Internet News and Email
. . .
I need a news reader that remembers what posts I have read, from session
to session, without "deleting" them.
And that makes reasonably easy to filter spam or jerks.
So I use Thunderbird.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
. . .
I need a news reader that remembers what posts I have read, from session
to session, without "deleting" them.
bonk
Any number of newsreaders use a newsrc file. Those that don't use a
newsrc have an equivaelent proprietary file. The file is updated with
article numbers as the user reads articles. This is a basic feature of
every single newsreader.
alpine "delete" merely marks the article number as read in the newsrc.
If using the maildrop feature to download articles to be read locally,
then "delete" literally deletes articles AND updates the newsrc.
And that makes reasonably easy to filter spam or jerks.
We don't rely upon our newsreaders to implement spam countermeasures.
That has to be done at the server level in all newsgroups.
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-03-10 18:38, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
. . .
I need a news reader that remembers what posts I have read, from session >>>> to session, without "deleting" them.
bonk
Any number of newsreaders use a newsrc file. Those that don't use a
newsrc have an equivaelent proprietary file. The file is updated with
article numbers as the user reads articles. This is a basic feature of
every single newsreader.
alpine "delete" merely marks the article number as read in the newsrc.
If using the maildrop feature to download articles to be read locally,
then "delete" literally deletes articles AND updates the newsrc.
And that makes reasonably easy to filter spam or jerks.
We don't rely upon our newsreaders to implement spam countermeasures.
That has to be done at the server level in all newsgroups.
None I know does.
You use individual.net, which has an excellent reputation for
implementing spam countermeasures.
Fine. I'm on e-s. I'm seeing drug spam through Google Groups. That's
spam not being caught be spam countermeasures. That would require me to
deal with this spam with my own kill file in the newsreader, possible to
do as there are three users on From in the spam.
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
Why don't you use the right tool for the right job and not complain that :>> an email client isn't capable of washing your windows?
In case you did not know:
PINE = Program for Internet News and Email
br,
KK
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