XanaNews Statistic for comp.mail.pine. 10/1/2021 12:38:56 AM
Top Newsreaders
Ranking Articles Newsreader Users >------- -------- -------------------------------------------- -----
1 6 trn 2
2 6 <unknown> 2
3 4 XanaNews 2
4 2 Mozilla 1
5 1 tin 1
6 1 Alpine 1
7 1 Thoth 1
8 1 slrn 1
The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
XanaNews Statistic for comp.mail.pine. 10/1/2021 12:38:56 AM
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Top Newsreaders
Ranking Articles Newsreader Users >>------- -------- -------------------------------------------- -----
1 6 trn 2
2 6 <unknown> 2
3 4 XanaNews 2
4 2 Mozilla 1
5 1 tin 1
6 1 Alpine 1
7 1 Thoth 1
8 1 slrn 1
Note that recent versions of alpine include this enhancement:
* Modifications to protect the privacy of users:
+ Alpine does not generate Sender or X-X-Sender by default by enabling
Do Not Generate Sender Header as the default.
+ Alpine does not disclose User Agent by default by enabling Suppress
User Agent When Sending by default.
So the stats for alpine use are likely to be understated. I suspect
that at least four of the "<unknown>" category are a recent version
of alpine being used to access Intenet news.
+ Alpine does not disclose User Agent by default by enabling
Suppress User Agent When Sending by default.
Did alpine ever have a User-Agent header generated by default? I don't
recall that. Pine used to incorporate its version number into the
Message-ID, which was the usual way one could tell a pine user.
On Sat, 2 Oct 2021, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
+ Alpine does not disclose User Agent by default by enabling
Suppress User Agent When Sending by default.
Did alpine ever have a User-Agent header generated by default? I don't >>recall that. Pine used to incorporate its version number into the >>Message-ID, which was the usual way one could tell a pine user.
Yes, Alpine used to generate the User-Agent header by default, and the >feature.
The way to turn it off was to enable the feature
[ ] Suppress User Agent When Sending
on a per-user basis. Now this is the default behavior, meaning that users >that want to disclose that they are using Alpine must disable it
themselves.
To clarify, the reason why this is done is so that attackers are not given >information on programs and/or system that you use by looking at your >messaages. The less information you give them, the better.
Eduardo Chappa <chappa@washington.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Oct 2021, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
+ Alpine does not disclose User Agent by default by enabling
Suppress User Agent When Sending by default.
Did alpine ever have a User-Agent header generated by default? I don't
recall that. Pine used to incorporate its version number into the
Message-ID, which was the usual way one could tell a pine user.
Yes, Alpine used to generate the User-Agent header by default, and the
feature.
I guess I remember this. I looked at a Message-ID; alpine no longer puts
its version number into the Message-ID and the machine name's domain is ROT-13 encoded. I suppose this was all done around the same time.
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