• pc-alpine

    From mechanic@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 27 22:14:30 2021
    For sometime there has been a problem on my install of PC-Alpine
    2.24 on Windows10 here. It seems to be a credentials or ssl/tls
    problem. The local A. client can log onto posteo.de and display the
    inbox ok, but trying to open a folder other than 'inbox' provokes
    warning messages like 'Acquire credentials handle failed' and 'There
    was an SSL/TLS failure for the server'.

    The Inbox Path line is: {posteo.de:993/imap/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=<myName>@posteo.de}inbox
    I've tried various tls/ssl variations and other flags but the
    problem remains.

    The pinerc settings file I use works ok in various Linux systems so
    I think settings are otherwise ok.

    Any thoughts or advice?

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  • From J.O. Aho@21:1/5 to mechanic on Fri May 28 07:53:46 2021
    On 27/05/2021 23.14, mechanic wrote:
    For sometime there has been a problem on my install of PC-Alpine
    2.24 on Windows10 here. It seems to be a credentials or ssl/tls
    problem. The local A. client can log onto posteo.de and display the
    inbox ok, but trying to open a folder other than 'inbox' provokes
    warning messages like 'Acquire credentials handle failed' and 'There
    was an SSL/TLS failure for the server'.

    The Inbox Path line is: {posteo.de:993/imap/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=<myName>@posteo.de}inbox
    I've tried various tls/ssl variations and other flags but the
    problem remains.

    The pinerc settings file I use works ok in various Linux systems so
    I think settings are otherwise ok.

    Any thoughts or advice?


    For me ms-windows is a black box where you don't know what will happen,
    but you would try out WSL/Ubuntu and see if works there, if not then it
    may be network issues. If it works then it would indicate that there is something wrong with the pc-alpine or missing dependency.

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    //Aho

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  • From mechanic@21:1/5 to J.O. Aho on Fri May 28 11:09:49 2021
    On Fri, 28 May 2021 07:53:46 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:

    On 27/05/2021 23.14, mechanic wrote:
    For sometime there has been a problem on my install of PC-Alpine
    2.24 on Windows10 here. It seems to be a credentials or ssl/tls
    problem. The local A. client can log onto posteo.de and display the
    inbox ok, but trying to open a folder other than 'inbox' provokes
    warning messages like 'Acquire credentials handle failed' and 'There
    was an SSL/TLS failure for the server'.

    The Inbox Path line is:
    {posteo.de:993/imap/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=<myName>@posteo.de}inbox
    I've tried various tls/ssl variations and other flags but the
    problem remains.

    The pinerc settings file I use works ok in various Linux systems so
    I think settings are otherwise ok.

    Any thoughts or advice?


    For me ms-windows is a black box where you don't know what will happen,
    but you would try out WSL/Ubuntu and see if works there, if not then it
    may be network issues. If it works then it would indicate that there is something wrong with the pc-alpine or missing dependency.

    I think the basic networking is ok. Using Cygwin I can run Alpine
    more or less as advertised. The issue I have with Cygwin is one of
    setting up the url-viewers list, I am still working on that. For the
    most straightforward way of running Alpine here, I use a virtualbox
    session with Debian. Still, it makes more sense to try to get
    pc-alpine working as a Windows application, given that I have
    Windows10 happy to run many other applications.

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  • From J.O. Aho@21:1/5 to mechanic on Fri May 28 21:04:58 2021
    On 28/05/2021 12.09, mechanic wrote:
    On Fri, 28 May 2021 07:53:46 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:

    On 27/05/2021 23.14, mechanic wrote:
    For sometime there has been a problem on my install of PC-Alpine
    2.24 on Windows10 here. It seems to be a credentials or ssl/tls
    problem. The local A. client can log onto posteo.de and display the
    inbox ok, but trying to open a folder other than 'inbox' provokes
    warning messages like 'Acquire credentials handle failed' and 'There
    was an SSL/TLS failure for the server'.

    The Inbox Path line is:
    {posteo.de:993/imap/ssl/novalidate-cert/user=<myName>@posteo.de}inbox
    I've tried various tls/ssl variations and other flags but the
    problem remains.

    The pinerc settings file I use works ok in various Linux systems so
    I think settings are otherwise ok.

    Any thoughts or advice?


    For me ms-windows is a black box where you don't know what will happen,
    but you would try out WSL/Ubuntu and see if works there, if not then it
    may be network issues. If it works then it would indicate that there is
    something wrong with the pc-alpine or missing dependency.

    I think the basic networking is ok. Using Cygwin I can run Alpine
    more or less as advertised. The issue I have with Cygwin is one of
    setting up the url-viewers list, I am still working on that. For the
    most straightforward way of running Alpine here, I use a virtualbox
    session with Debian. Still, it makes more sense to try to get
    pc-alpine working as a Windows application, given that I have
    Windows10 happy to run many other applications.

    I do agree that it's better to get it run native, unless you have other
    things running on that debian, I would recommend you to look at wsl,
    then you don't have to hassle with the vbox drivers in the debian and
    the startup of the wsl session is far faster than the virtualbox and at
    the same time you have full access to the windows file system from the
    wsl and it don't reserve a fixed amount of memory or relay on a disk
    image. The thing I'm looking forward for is the wslgl which will allow
    you to run GUI based Linux applications, then my work machine will be a
    bit more like my home computer, but sure it had been nice to run all the
    stuff I'm used to native instead in a wsl.

    After that rant, have you tried an older version and seen if it works
    better for you? Also tested the 32bit version? From what I see the 32bit version comes with more libraries and tools. The crypto libraryy seems
    to also be newer than the one that comes with the 64bit version.

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    //Aho

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  • From Eduardo Chappa@21:1/5 to mechanic on Fri May 28 18:37:42 2021
    On Thu, 27 May 2021, mechanic wrote:

    For sometime there has been a problem on my install of PC-Alpine
    2.24 on Windows10 here. It seems to be a credentials or ssl/tls
    problem. The local A. client can log onto posteo.de and display the
    inbox ok, but trying to open a folder other than 'inbox' provokes
    warning messages like 'Acquire credentials handle failed' and 'There
    was an SSL/TLS failure for the server'.

    Dear Mechanic,

    I built a special version of Alpine for a friend, please try that and
    let me know how it behaves for you. The link is

    http://alpine.x10host.com/Ulf/Windows_Ulf.zip

    Thank you!

    --
    Eduardo
    https://tinyurl.com/yc377wlh (web)
    http://repo.or.cz/alpine.git (Git)

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  • From mechanic@21:1/5 to J.O. Aho on Sat May 29 16:55:04 2021
    On Fri, 28 May 2021 21:04:58 +0200, J.O. Aho wrote:

    After that rant, have you tried an older version and seen if it works
    better for you? Also tested the 32bit version? From what I see the 32bit version comes with more libraries and tools. The crypto libraryy seems
    to also be newer than the one that comes with the 64bit version.

    Yes the 32 bit version does seem to work, apart from an issue with a certificate. Thanks for the idea!

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  • From mechanic@21:1/5 to Eduardo Chappa on Sat May 29 16:56:13 2021
    On Fri, 28 May 2021 18:37:42 -0600, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

    I built a special version of Alpine for a friend, please try that and
    let me know how it behaves for you. The link is

    http://alpine.x10host.com/Ulf/Windows_Ulf.zip

    Thank you!

    Yes, that seems to work! Thanks as ever, Eduardo.

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  • From David Kirk@21:1/5 to mechanic on Sat May 29 11:40:52 2021
    On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 11:56:14 AM UTC-4, mechanic wrote:
    On Fri, 28 May 2021 18:37:42 -0600, Eduardo Chappa wrote:

    I built a special version of Alpine for a friend, please try that and
    let me know how it behaves for you. The link is

    http://alpine.x10host.com/Ulf/Windows_Ulf.zip

    Thank you!
    Yes, that seems to work! Thanks as ever, Eduardo.

    Eduardo,
    I had same problem as Mechanic. I had been using setup of domain-name:143/tls and it suddenly stopped working. I tried many settings and nothing worked. I downloaed the windows_Ulf version and it solved my problem. Thank you for making this available.
    david

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