• Re: Implementation Favoritism, a question of Lisp mindsets

    From vonunov@21:1/5 to Andrew Burton on Sun Feb 19 15:27:14 2023
    On Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:20:07 PM UTC-5, Andrew Burton wrote:
    I'm not sure how to ask this, so I want to preface this by saying I'm not try start a language war. This is a question I had this weekend, and wanted to ask
    as part of my "trying to understand the Lisp mentality."
    Lately I've been trying to play with various (free) Lisp implementations just to get the feel of the overall language. I've used clisp, scsh, MIT Scheme, and I've even tinkered with Emacs Lisp and Dr. Scheme a little bit. In playing
    with these different Lisps, I can see the similarities, and I can see the differences. Now, I'm no where close to being anything but a hobbyist with it so far, but I'm worndering: when one gets to the point that one can program marvelous software with a specific implementation, does one kind of focus on that specific implementation? I mean, do Lisp hackers generally focus on learning one implementation, or is it better to kind of learn them at a paralell pace?
    I'm wondering -- and again, this isn't trying to say one is better than the other -- should set MIT Scheme, Emacs Lisp, and such aside until I get better at clisp? Or should I continue working with each one as I have been? What do most Lisp hackers do? Any opinions are welcome. Thanks.
    Andrew Burton -- tuglyraisin at aol dot com
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  • From Alan Bawden@21:1/5 to Andrew Burton on Sun Feb 19 19:06:58 2023
    vonunov <vonunov@gmail.com> writes:

    On Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:20:07 PM UTC-5, Andrew Burton wrote:
    > ...

    I love how Google makes it easy for the clueless to reply to 20 year old
    posts. I wonder about the future of this. Will we have people replying
    to 100 year old posts in the 22nd century?

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  • From Madhu@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 20 08:00:24 2023
    * Alan Bawden <86r0ulw671.fsf @williamsburg.bawden.org> :
    Wrote on Sun, 19 Feb 2023 19:06:58 -0500:
    I love how Google makes it easy for the clueless to reply to 20 year old posts. I wonder about the future of this. Will we have people replying
    to 100 year old posts in the 22nd century?

    Note there wasn't any content in the reply. His reply was probably sent
    in error when the user was merely browsing and inadvertently triggered
    some action that was designed to trigger some surveillance traffic.

    (if you know what I mean -- like those clicks or keystrokes in the 90s
    porn sites that opened popups on other sites)

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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Alan Bawden on Mon Feb 20 11:21:36 2023
    On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 19:06:58 -0500
    Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> wrote:
    vonunov <vonunov@gmail.com> writes:

    On Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:20:07 PM UTC-5, Andrew Burton wrote:
    > ...

    I love how Google makes it easy for the clueless to reply to 20 year old posts. I wonder about the future of this.

    Replying to very old posts can be cool if there is some substance in the
    reply which on this occasion there wasn't. For an amusing example see

    Newsgroups: comp.programming
    Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 11:02:12 -0700 (PDT)
    In-Reply-To: <30l6ec$r6r@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
    References: <30l6ec$r6r@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>
    Message-ID: <9b919c91-61da-4215-a1c1-263947ed28e4n@googlegroups.com>
    Subject: Re: Hyper-fast joystick read

    or

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=167689170400

    Will we have people replying
    to 100 year old posts in the 22nd century?

    This would be even more cool.

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  • From luserdroog@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Tue Feb 28 16:56:14 2023
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 5:21:42 AM UTC-6, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
    On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 19:06:58 -0500
    Alan Bawden <al...@csail.mit.edu> wrote:
    vonunov <von...@gmail.com> writes:

    On Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:20:07 PM UTC-5, Andrew Burton wrote:
    ...

    I love how Google makes it easy for the clueless to reply to 20 year old posts. I wonder about the future of this.
    Replying to very old posts can be cool if there is some substance in the reply which on this occasion there wasn't.

    Except for the fact that the Mel Brooks movie only had 12 chairs. What
    happened to the other 8?!

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