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Hi Julieta, I actually never used aioe.org and I'm not involved with
it. I'm just a user of the Eternal September NNTP server.
* Julieta Shem <87le9m6clx.fsf @yaxenu.org> :
Wrote on Fri, 22 Dec 2023 02:16:26 -0300:
Paolo Amoroso <info @paoloamoroso.com> writes:
Hi Julieta, I actually never used aioe.org and I'm not involved withOh, I beg your pardon. One of the system administrators of a news
it. I'm just a user of the Eternal September NNTP server.
server hosted at aioe.org was called Paolo Amoroso. I assumed he would
be you.
Maybe google has something to do with Paulo's amnesia [*Paolo
Paolo Amoroso <info @paoloamoroso.com> writes:
Hi Julieta, I actually never used aioe.org and I'm not involved withOh, I beg your pardon. One of the system administrators of a news
it. I'm just a user of the Eternal September NNTP server.
server hosted at aioe.org was called Paolo Amoroso. I assumed he would
be you.
I was of course assuming it was the same Paolo (long time c.l.l.
poster and author of EncyCMUCLopedia) was the same person. I see how
it could be wrong. (this possibly mistaken identity was perpetrated
in the alt.free.newsservers newsgroups)
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 12:25:47 +0530
Madhu <enometh@meer.net> wrote:
I was of course assuming it was the same Paolo (long time c.l.l.
poster and author of EncyCMUCLopedia) was the same person. I see how
it could be wrong. (this possibly mistaken identity was perpetrated
in the alt.free.newsservers newsgroups)
Yes, I'm the same Paolo Amoroso but I'm not sure I remember anything
about aioe.org. Can you please elaborate?
The allegation is that you are the Paolo Amoroso (stasi at aioe dot
org) who ran the news.aioe.org news server which was decomissioned
(IIRC) in January 2023.
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 16:44:20 +0530
Madhu <enometh@meer.net> wrote:
The allegation is that you are the Paolo Amoroso (stasi at aioe dotI'm NOT that person and I've never ran any NNTP servers.
org) who ran the news.aioe.org news server which was decomissioned
(IIRC) in January 2023.
Paolo Amoroso <info@paoloamoroso.com> writes:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 16:44:20 +0530
Madhu <enometh@meer.net> wrote:
The allegation is that you are the Paolo Amoroso (stasi at aioe dotI'm NOT that person and I've never ran any NNTP servers.
org) who ran the news.aioe.org news server which was decomissioned
(IIRC) in January 2023.
Just today, there is a thread "A QUESTION ABOUT AIOE, PLEASE"
in "alt.privacy.anon-server", where the "common wisdom" about
this is repeated in an answer.
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
Paolo Amoroso <info@paoloamoroso.com> writes:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 16:44:20 +0530
Madhu <enometh@meer.net> wrote:
The allegation is that you are the Paolo Amoroso (stasi at aioe dot >>>>org) who ran the news.aioe.org news server which was decomissioned >>>>(IIRC) in January 2023.I'm NOT that person and I've never ran any NNTP servers.
Just today, there is a thread "A QUESTION ABOUT AIOE, PLEASE"
in "alt.privacy.anon-server", where the "common wisdom" about
this is repeated in an answer.
What an awesome coincidence. I'm personally curious as to what happened
to the service. It was so zealously cared for and it suddenly went out.
It's part of recent USENET history and it'd be nice to get some
verifiable facts.
Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> wrote in news:874jga3s45.fsf@yaxenu.org:
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
Paolo Amoroso <info@paoloamoroso.com> writes:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 16:44:20 +0530
Madhu <enometh@meer.net> wrote:
The allegation is that you are the Paolo Amoroso (stasi at aioe dot >>>>org) who ran the news.aioe.org news server which was decomissioned >>>>(IIRC) in January 2023.I'm NOT that person and I've never ran any NNTP servers.
Just today, there is a thread "A QUESTION ABOUT AIOE, PLEASE"
in "alt.privacy.anon-server", where the "common wisdom" about
this is repeated in an answer.
What an awesome coincidence. I'm personally curious as to what happened
to the service. It was so zealously cared for and it suddenly went out. It's part of recent USENET history and it'd be nice to get some
verifiable facts.
RAID controller failed, then Paolo got sick (and tired of the BS
probably).
He was a good fellow.
anonymous wrote:
Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> wrote in news:874jga3s45.fsf@yaxenu.org:
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
Paolo Amoroso <info@paoloamoroso.com> writes:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 16:44:20 +0530
Madhu <enometh@meer.net> wrote:
The allegation is that you are the Paolo Amoroso (stasi at aioe dot >>>>>> org) who ran the news.aioe.org news server which was decomissioned >>>>>> (IIRC) in January 2023.I'm NOT that person and I've never ran any NNTP servers.
Just today, there is a thread "A QUESTION ABOUT AIOE, PLEASE"
in "alt.privacy.anon-server", where the "common wisdom" about
this is repeated in an answer.
What an awesome coincidence. I'm personally curious as to what happened >>> to the service. It was so zealously cared for and it suddenly went out. >>> It's part of recent USENET history and it'd be nice to get some
verifiable facts.
RAID controller failed, then Paolo got sick (and tired of the BS
probably).
Most likely. Lots of users abusing it because it was free and
open, like they do to all open servers. He could, IMO, have made
life easier for himself if he's required registration.
He was a good fellow.
Yes. I hope he is feeling much better now.
Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> wrote in news:874jga3s45.fsf@yaxenu.org:
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
Paolo Amoroso <info@paoloamoroso.com> writes:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 16:44:20 +0530
Madhu <enometh@meer.net> wrote:
The allegation is that you are the Paolo Amoroso (stasi at aioe dot >>>>>org) who ran the news.aioe.org news server which was decomissioned >>>>>(IIRC) in January 2023.I'm NOT that person and I've never ran any NNTP servers.
Just today, there is a thread "A QUESTION ABOUT AIOE, PLEASE"
in "alt.privacy.anon-server", where the "common wisdom" about
this is repeated in an answer.
What an awesome coincidence. I'm personally curious as to what happened
to the service. It was so zealously cared for and it suddenly went out.
It's part of recent USENET history and it'd be nice to get some
verifiable facts.
RAID controller failed, then Paolo got sick (and tired of the BS
probably).
He was a good fellow.
But was there a backup at all? If he were to provide the backup to
someone, I wouldn't be surprised if someone would take it from there.
On 12/23/23 13:26, Julieta Shem wrote:
But was there a backup at all? If he were to provide the backup to
someone, I wouldn't be surprised if someone would take it from there.
You don't need a backup of a news server to start a new news server.
Anyone that wants to start a new news server can do so.
On 12/23/23 13:26, Julieta Shem wrote:
But was there a backup at all? If he were to provide the backup to
someone, I wouldn't be surprised if someone would take it from there.
You don't need a backup of a news server to start a new news server.
Anyone that wants to start a new news server can do so.
On 12/23/2023 3:15 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
On 12/23/23 13:26, Julieta Shem wrote:
But was there a backup at all? If he were to provide the backup to
someone, I wouldn't be surprised if someone would take it from there.
You don't need a backup of a news server to start a new news server.
Anyone that wants to start a new news server can do so.
His site was leveled once.
It involved a COLO, and instantly he was left with nothing.
He happened to make a comment in public about the services of the COLO.
It wasn't an outrageous comment. Just the usual comment about things.
Boom. Gone. Just like that.
With a COLO, once your account is canceled, you have no access
whatsoever to your information content. The hardware in a COLO
is behind locked doors. You're not getting in there, to say,
clone your hard drive. Forget it.
it took *months* to reproduce the website from scratch and
populate it with topical materials again. As well as put
the news server back up.
There is no evidence that he had a backup in his new COLO location.
He got kicked out of the Italian COLO and moved to a German COLO.
Where the legal environment is different.
Something happened to the RAID, but we don't know whether it
was a RAID degrade/fail or... a hack from the outside. That
part is unclear. Security is all-important on little projects
like this, because hateful people are everywhere. Maybe the
server had received a little rm -Rf * loving. Who knows.
There are people who run scans every day, to see if you're
disparaging them. Look at W.Tom, using Google to email him
any time "whole house lightning protection" was used in a
USENET posting. One individual in another group, as a part
of his .sig , he includes "W.Tom" and "lightning", just
to ensure that every post he sends, would result in W.Tom
receiving an (irrelevant) email.
If you think you're not being watched, you're being watched :-)
I bet there is a certain lawyer I cannot name, who is doing
this. Just because.
Paul
With a co-lo, the hardware is yours. If they cancel your account and
won't let you in to access it, that is theft and you can sue them or
call the police.
He was a good fellow.
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> writes:
On 12/23/23 13:26, Julieta Shem wrote:
But was there a backup at all? If he were to provide the backup to
someone, I wouldn't be surprised if someone would take it from there.
You don't need a backup of a news server to start a new news server.
Anyone that wants to start a new news server can do so.
Of course. They likely had a nice set-up of so many things. The
service was great. I assume there was years of preparation,
configuration, customization and so on.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 491 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 134:58:24 |
| Calls: | 9,690 |
| Files: | 13,728 |
| Messages: | 6,177,869 |