I'm trying to show people that exceptions are a very nice thing to have
when it comes to detecting when something went awry somewhere. I'd like
a real-world case, though.

Here's what I'm sort of coming up with --- given my limited experience
and imagination. Below, you have f calling g caling h calling j which
returns True or False based on a random thing. (This simulates a task
that sometimes succeeds and sometimes fails.) If while at f() I want to
know what happened at j(), I'm going to have to propagate that
information upwards through the execution stack. I can't do that right
now: I'd have to change f, g and h.

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from random import randint

def f():
g()

def g():
h()

def h():
if j():
print("I got a 2.")
else:
print("I got a 1.")

def j():
return randint(1,2) == 2
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

If instead of that, j() would be raising an exception when it fails,
then all I only need to change f() to know what happens.

I could replace j's test with opening a file, say. That would improve
it a little. I'm sure you guys know excellent cases to show. Would you
be so kind to share anything you might have in mind?

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On Tuesday, 6 September 2022 at 01:00:03 UTC+2, Meredith Montgomery wrote:

I'm trying to show people that exceptions are a very nice thing to have

Welcome to my kill-file.

*Plonk*

Julio

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Meredith Montgomery <mmontgomery@levado.to> writes:

I'm trying to show people that exceptions are a very nice thing to have
when it comes to detecting when something went awry somewhere. I'd like
a real-world case, though.

Here's my contribution. I want to handle all errors in main() and the
real job is done in does_a_job(), which, in turns, needs to delegate
tasks to those other procedures that fail sometimes.

It's does_a_job() that /must/ distinguish the error codes because errors
come in as False from both opens_file() and reads_file(). So the checks
must be done both in does_a_job() and in main(). (We also notice that does_a_job() has a return-type that's a union (sometimes an integer,
sometimes a string), which makes distinguishing error code and success a
bit harder.)

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from random import randint

def main():
r, data = does_a_job()
if r < 0:
if r == -1:
print("Fatal. Could not open file.")
return None
if r == -2:
print("Fatal. Could not read file")
return None
print(f"Great! We got the data: ``{r}''.")

def does_a_job():
okay = opens_file()
if not okay:
return -1
okay, data = reads_file()
if not okay:
return -2
closes_file()
return data

def open_file(): # Opens okay with probability 80%
return randint(1,10) <= 8

def read_file(): # Reads okay with probability 50%
return randint(1,10) <= 5, "data I am"

def closes_file(): # Works with probability 1
return True
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

If we could give the program a final destination at does_a_job(), the
job would be easier. But all we want to do in does_a_job() is to
propagate the error conditions upwards to main() to really decide what
to do. Exceptions lets us do that with a cleaner version.

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from random import randint

def main():
try:
data = does_a_job()
except FileNotFoundError:
print("Fatal. Could not open file.")
except MemoryError:
print("Fatal. Could not read file")
else:
print(f"Great! We got the data: ``{data}''.")

def does_a_job():
open_file()
data = reads_file()
close_file()
return data

def open_file(): # Opens okay with probability 80%
if randint(1,10) <= 8:
return True
raise FileNotFoundError("Sorry: the file system is /so/ busy right now.")

def reads_file(): # Reads okay with probability 50%
if randint(1,10) <= 5:
return "data I am"
raise MemoryError("Sorry: not enough memory for /all/ this data.")

def close_file(): # Works with probability 1
return True
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