• Aw: Re: pip/pip3 confusion and keeping up to date

    From Karsten Hilbert@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 7 11:44:14 2023
    .From all the posts I gather the answer to my question is
    "simply": unpackaged-but-needed modules need to be packaged.

    I think there is one aspect that isn't getting consideration here. And
    that is whether or not you want these packages installed in the default system Python install. You might not.

    Indeed, which is why all the fuzz about how to fill-in a venv from pip while installing with apt :-)

    With "properly" packaged modules one wouldn't risk (that much) system
    breakage, at any rate.

    Maybe you want to get the latest
    possible version of super-dooper-gui-helper, but one of its dependencies doesn't play well with the system Python libraries. Or ... but you get
    the point. There are probably many cases where you want *not* to
    install into the system Python world. So you would need to come up with
    an APT-based installer that doesn't do that.

    Obviously it's not unthinkable;

    Certainly not, it's just that I had hoped someone goes: look here
    and all of this ...

    it is just one more thing to figure out.

    ... has been thought through before.

    Thanks,
    Karsten

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