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  • 8th ver 23.04 released

    From Ron AARON@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 14 10:08:23 2023
    This release has a lot of fixes and improvements. A fairly comprehensive web-server application is included, which runs as a self-contained web
    server, or runs under an existing web-server as a CGI script, or runs as
    an 'stunnel' process.


    Full details on the forum: https://8th-dev.com/forum/index.php/topic,2683.0.html

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to Ron AARON on Mon May 15 01:31:05 2023
    On 14/05/2023 5:08 pm, Ron AARON wrote:
    This release has a lot of fixes and improvements.

    I feel somewhat comforted by the fact I'm not the only one who creates bugs.
    Do you have to find them yourself? Deciding to improve an old routine for
    no particular reason, I discovered the original would fail in specialized circumstances - a defect none of my previous testing and usage had uncovered. It's one thing for others to cast doubt on one's abilities - quite another to see it for oneself.

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  • From Ron AARON@21:1/5 to dxforth on Mon May 15 06:39:54 2023
    On 14/05/2023 18:31, dxforth wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 5:08 pm, Ron AARON wrote:
    This release has a lot of fixes and improvements.

    I feel somewhat comforted by the fact I'm not the only one who creates bugs. Do you have to find them yourself? Deciding to improve an old routine for
    no particular reason, I discovered the original would fail in specialized circumstances - a defect none of my previous testing and usage had uncovered. It's one thing for others to cast doubt on one's abilities - quite another to see it for oneself.

    Alas! I too, am (occasionally) apt to write a bug. It's the curse of
    being mortal, I suppose.

    My users find some bugs, which is helpful. I find others when I'm using
    8th to do something... very much as you describe.

    The most recent bug discovered was due to a very stupid mistake on my
    part when adding functionality to the date parsing routine. A 'false'
    should have been 'true', but even with 40+ years of experience, I didn't
    notice it until the bug was reported.

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  • From Brian Fox@21:1/5 to Ron AARON on Mon May 15 18:37:30 2023
    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 11:41:40 PM UTC-4, Ron AARON wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 18:31, dxforth wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 5:08 pm, Ron AARON wrote:
    This release has a lot of fixes and improvements.

    I feel somewhat comforted by the fact I'm not the only one who creates bugs.
    Do you have to find them yourself? Deciding to improve an old routine for no particular reason, I discovered the original would fail in specialized circumstances - a defect none of my previous testing and usage had uncovered.
    It's one thing for others to cast doubt on one's abilities - quite another to
    see it for oneself.
    Alas! I too, am (occasionally) apt to write a bug. It's the curse of
    being mortal, I suppose.

    My users find some bugs, which is helpful. I find others when I'm using
    8th to do something... very much as you describe.

    The most recent bug discovered was due to a very stupid mistake on my
    part when adding functionality to the date parsing routine. A 'false'
    should have been 'true', but even with 40+ years of experience, I didn't notice it until the bug was reported.

    No need to worry. I read that GPT-6 is going to handle all that for us soon.

    :-)

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to Brian Fox on Tue May 16 12:59:35 2023
    On 16/05/2023 11:37 am, Brian Fox wrote:
    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 11:41:40 PM UTC-4, Ron AARON wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 18:31, dxforth wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 5:08 pm, Ron AARON wrote:
    This release has a lot of fixes and improvements.

    I feel somewhat comforted by the fact I'm not the only one who creates bugs.
    Do you have to find them yourself? Deciding to improve an old routine for >>> no particular reason, I discovered the original would fail in specialized >>> circumstances - a defect none of my previous testing and usage had uncovered.
    It's one thing for others to cast doubt on one's abilities - quite another to
    see it for oneself.
    Alas! I too, am (occasionally) apt to write a bug. It's the curse of
    being mortal, I suppose.

    My users find some bugs, which is helpful. I find others when I'm using
    8th to do something... very much as you describe.

    The most recent bug discovered was due to a very stupid mistake on my
    part when adding functionality to the date parsing routine. A 'false'
    should have been 'true', but even with 40+ years of experience, I didn't
    notice it until the bug was reported.

    No need to worry. I read that GPT-6 is going to handle all that for us soon.

    :-)

    Give AI all the fun of self-flagellation? That would be short-sighed :)

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  • From Ron AARON@21:1/5 to Brian Fox on Tue May 16 06:31:51 2023
    On 16/05/2023 4:37, Brian Fox wrote:
    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 11:41:40 PM UTC-4, Ron AARON wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 18:31, dxforth wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 5:08 pm, Ron AARON wrote:
    This release has a lot of fixes and improvements.

    I feel somewhat comforted by the fact I'm not the only one who creates bugs.
    Do you have to find them yourself? Deciding to improve an old routine for >>> no particular reason, I discovered the original would fail in specialized >>> circumstances - a defect none of my previous testing and usage had uncovered.
    It's one thing for others to cast doubt on one's abilities - quite another to
    see it for oneself.
    Alas! I too, am (occasionally) apt to write a bug. It's the curse of
    being mortal, I suppose.

    My users find some bugs, which is helpful. I find others when I'm using
    8th to do something... very much as you describe.

    The most recent bug discovered was due to a very stupid mistake on my
    part when adding functionality to the date parsing routine. A 'false'
    should have been 'true', but even with 40+ years of experience, I didn't
    notice it until the bug was reported.

    No need to worry. I read that GPT-6 is going to handle all that for us soon.

    :-)

    :)

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  • From Ron AARON@21:1/5 to dxforth on Tue May 16 06:33:17 2023
    On 16/05/2023 5:59, dxforth wrote:
    On 16/05/2023 11:37 am, Brian Fox wrote:
    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 11:41:40 PM UTC-4, Ron AARON wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 18:31, dxforth wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 5:08 pm, Ron AARON wrote:
    This release has a lot of fixes and improvements.

    I feel somewhat comforted by the fact I'm not the only one who creates bugs.
    Do you have to find them yourself? Deciding to improve an old routine for >>>> no particular reason, I discovered the original would fail in specialized >>>> circumstances - a defect none of my previous testing and usage had uncovered.
    It's one thing for others to cast doubt on one's abilities - quite another to
    see it for oneself.
    Alas! I too, am (occasionally) apt to write a bug. It's the curse of
    being mortal, I suppose.

    My users find some bugs, which is helpful. I find others when I'm using
    8th to do something... very much as you describe.

    The most recent bug discovered was due to a very stupid mistake on my
    part when adding functionality to the date parsing routine. A 'false'
    should have been 'true', but even with 40+ years of experience, I didn't >>> notice it until the bug was reported.

    No need to worry. I read that GPT-6 is going to handle all that for us soon.

    :-)

    Give AI all the fun of self-flagellation? That would be short-sighed :)

    Well, I'm old enough to remember when we were told that "drag-n-drop"
    would take over the programming world, and everyone would be able to be
    a programmer...

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to Ron AARON on Wed May 17 13:16:06 2023
    On 16/05/2023 1:33 pm, Ron AARON wrote:


    On 16/05/2023 5:59, dxforth wrote:
    On 16/05/2023 11:37 am, Brian Fox wrote:
    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 11:41:40 PM UTC-4, Ron AARON wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 18:31, dxforth wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 5:08 pm, Ron AARON wrote:
    This release has a lot of fixes and improvements.

    I feel somewhat comforted by the fact I'm not the only one who creates bugs.
    Do you have to find them yourself? Deciding to improve an old routine for >>>>> no particular reason, I discovered the original would fail in specialized >>>>> circumstances - a defect none of my previous testing and usage had uncovered.
    It's one thing for others to cast doubt on one's abilities - quite another to
    see it for oneself.
    Alas! I too, am (occasionally) apt to write a bug. It's the curse of
    being mortal, I suppose.

    My users find some bugs, which is helpful. I find others when I'm using >>>> 8th to do something... very much as you describe.

    The most recent bug discovered was due to a very stupid mistake on my
    part when adding functionality to the date parsing routine. A 'false'
    should have been 'true', but even with 40+ years of experience, I didn't >>>> notice it until the bug was reported.

    No need to worry. I read that  GPT-6 is going to handle all that for us soon.

    :-)

    Give AI all the fun of self-flagellation?  That would be short-sighed :)

    Well, I'm old enough to remember when we were told that "drag-n-drop" would take over the programming world, and everyone would be able to be a programmer...

    Best they can offer is a way of making the mundane stuff easier to do. Personally I like washing dishes by hand. But then I don't work in a restaurant nor have numerous kids to feed.

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