Lower case is used for Locals.
{ a 2b - c 2d - e f -1, 0 }
a, 32b input
2b, 64b input (double)
c, 32b temporary
2d, 64b temporary
e, f, outputs
-1, output available flag
0, no output flag
44 -> c, store 44 in c
AT a, pointer to first local
Comments?
Lower case is used for Locals.
{ a 2b - c 2d - e f -1, 0 }
a, 32b input
2b, 64b input (double)
c, 32b temporary
2d, 64b temporary
e, f, outputs
-1, output available flag
0, no output flag
44 -> c, store 44 in c
AT a, pointer to first local
Comments?
In article <eb89ae7c-d176-4cf2...@googlegroups.com>,Is this the standard local syntax?
John Hart <johnro...@gmail.com> wrote:
Lower case is used for Locals.
{ a 2b - c 2d - e f -1, 0 }
a, 32b input
2b, 64b input (double)
c, 32b temporary
2d, 64b temporary
e, f, outputs
-1, output available flag
0, no output flag
44 -> c, store 44 in c
AT a, pointer to first local
Comments?Puzzled.
On Wed, 10 May 2023 16:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
John Hart <johnro...@gmail.com> wrote:
Lower case is used for Locals.
{ a 2b - c 2d - e f -1, 0 }
a, 32b input
2b, 64b input (double)
c, 32b temporary
2d, 64b temporary
e, f, outputs
-1, output available flag
0, no output flag
44 -> c, store 44 in c
AT a, pointer to first local
Comments?Do the "-1," and "0" map onto "e" and "f"?
Lower case is used for Locals.
{ a 2b - c 2d - e f -1, 0 }
a, 32b input
2b, 64b input (double)
c, 32b temporary
2d, 64b temporary
e, f, outputs
-1, output available flag
0, no output flag
44 -> c, store 44 in c
AT a, pointer to first local
Comments?
On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
Lower case is used for Locals.
{ a 2b - c 2d - e f -1, 0 }
a, 32b input
2b, 64b input (double)
c, 32b temporary
2d, 64b temporary
e, f, outputs
-1, output available flag
0, no output flag
44 -> c, store 44 in c
AT a, pointer to first local
Comments?You seem to be trying to implement local variables with data-types.
This is a bad idea. Various people have tried to turn Forth into a typed language similar to Pascal and this has never worked out well.
I would not do this. This is just the latest in your lengthy series of bad ideas.
I had local variables working in MFX back in 1995.
Are you trying to insult me be implying that I didn't have local variables in MFX?
The story is that, I wrote MFX for the purpose of supporting the motion-control
program. This succeeded. The MiniForth ran the laser-etcher. MFX didn't have locals
because the motion-control program was ported from the LMI 80c320 cross-compiler that didn't have locals, so the motion-control program didn't use locals. You told me that my next project would be to write a C compiler for
the MiniForth, because most customers want C, although you had no intention of ever writing C code for the MiniForth yourself because you only know Forth
and you were okay with MFX. So I bought a book (my own money) on LCC and began reading up on how to write a C compiler. I also asked for an upgrade to
the MiniForth to support local variables. The MiniForth doesn't have indexed addressing, so a traditional local-frame was not realistic. You provided 16 fast
memory locations in the bottom of data-memory. I implemented 16 local variables
in these fast locations and I would move the whole block to a stack upon function
entrance, then move the block back upon function exit to restore for the parent
function. This is the same technique that is used in 8032 C compilers because
the 8032 doesn't have indexed addressing either. I wrote a lot of ghost functions
to support local variables. For example, I had post-increment, pre-increment,
post-decrement, and pre-decrement for the locals. There were hundreds of ghost functions using the local variables in various ways.
Ghost functions didn't "materialize" until they were first referenced. I could have
hundreds of ghost functions but none of them used any code-memory unless they
were actually referenced in the Forth program, whereupon they would be compiled
into code-memory, and any later reference would use this compiled code too. There was only 64KW of code-memory available, so I had to not fill it up with code
that never gets used. I could provide ghost functions for all 16 local variables,
but most programs would never have any functions that used all 16 local variables,
so the code supporting the upper locals would never materialize and take up room
in code-memory.
C actually requires support for 32 local variables, so I couldn't be fully C compatible.
LCC is really designed for a processor with 32 registers, such as the MIPS, etc..
I only had 16 fast locations in memory. I considered using only 8 of these for locals,
and leave the other 8 for pseudo-registers. This would be roughly comparable to the
8086 that also has only 8 registers. This would not work for LCC though because it
is designed for more modern processors with a lot of registers. All in all, I was very
unenthusiastic about writing a C compiler for the MiniForth. I expected that it was
going to generate slow inefficient code because the MiniForth is really designed to
support Forth, not C. Everybody in the world would say that this proves that I'm
utterly incompetent. Nobody would consider MFX to be a good Forth compiler, but
everybody would consider MFX to be a bad C compiler written by an incompetent.
You were telling me that you expected the C compiler to be written fairly quickly
because you weren't willing to spend a lot of money on it, and because I hadn't
made any progress on the C compiler other than implementing local variables in MFX, you considered me to be incompetent as a C programmer. I left Testra because of this. You had never praised me for writing MFX, and you weren't providing
me with health insurance although Steve Brault got health insurance, and Tom Hart
told me clearly that I would never get a raise in pay. So I left. I still expected to get
a reference for writing MFX, but I later heard you (or Tom Hart impersonating you)
on a speaker phone saying that I had accomplished nothing and I was not eligible
for rehire. Now three decades later though, you admit for the first time that I did
write MFX and that you still rely on MFX at Testra. Why didn't you admit this in 1995?
On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 21:30:55 UTC+1, Hugh Aguilar wrote:
On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
Lower case is used for Locals.
{ a 2b - c 2d - e f -1, 0 }
a, 32b input
2b, 64b input (double)
c, 32b temporary
2d, 64b temporary
e, f, outputs
-1, output available flag
0, no output flag
44 -> c, store 44 in c
AT a, pointer to first local
Comments?You seem to be trying to implement local variables with data-types.
This is a bad idea. Various people have tried to turn Forth into a typed language similar to Pascal and this has never worked out well.
I would not do this. This is just the latest in your lengthy series of bad ideas.
I had local variables working in MFX back in 1995.
Are you trying to insult me be implying that I didn't have local variables in MFX?
The story is that, I wrote MFX for the purpose of supporting the motion-control
program. This succeeded. The MiniForth ran the laser-etcher. MFX didn't have locals
because the motion-control program was ported from the LMI 80c320 cross-compiler that didn't have locals, so the motion-control program didn't
use locals. You told me that my next project would be to write a C compiler for
the MiniForth, because most customers want C, although you had no intention
of ever writing C code for the MiniForth yourself because you only know Forth
and you were okay with MFX. So I bought a book (my own money) on LCC and began reading up on how to write a C compiler. I also asked for an upgrade to
the MiniForth to support local variables. The MiniForth doesn't have indexed
addressing, so a traditional local-frame was not realistic. You provided 16 fast
memory locations in the bottom of data-memory. I implemented 16 local variables
in these fast locations and I would move the whole block to a stack upon function
entrance, then move the block back upon function exit to restore for the parent
function. This is the same technique that is used in 8032 C compilers because
the 8032 doesn't have indexed addressing either. I wrote a lot of ghost functions
to support local variables. For example, I had post-increment, pre-increment,
post-decrement, and pre-decrement for the locals. There were hundreds of ghost functions using the local variables in various ways.
Ghost functions didn't "materialize" until they were first referenced. I could have
hundreds of ghost functions but none of them used any code-memory unless they
were actually referenced in the Forth program, whereupon they would be compiled
into code-memory, and any later reference would use this compiled code too.
There was only 64KW of code-memory available, so I had to not fill it up with code
that never gets used. I could provide ghost functions for all 16 local variables,
but most programs would never have any functions that used all 16 local variables,
so the code supporting the upper locals would never materialize and take up room
in code-memory.
C actually requires support for 32 local variables, so I couldn't be fully C compatible.It seems you memories are fading.
LCC is really designed for a processor with 32 registers, such as the MIPS, etc..
I only had 16 fast locations in memory. I considered using only 8 of these for locals,
and leave the other 8 for pseudo-registers. This would be roughly comparable to the
8086 that also has only 8 registers. This would not work for LCC though because it
is designed for more modern processors with a lot of registers. All in all, I was very
unenthusiastic about writing a C compiler for the MiniForth. I expected that it was
going to generate slow inefficient code because the MiniForth is really designed to
support Forth, not C. Everybody in the world would say that this proves that I'm
utterly incompetent. Nobody would consider MFX to be a good Forth compiler, but
everybody would consider MFX to be a bad C compiler written by an incompetent.
You were telling me that you expected the C compiler to be written fairly quickly
because you weren't willing to spend a lot of money on it, and because I hadn't
made any progress on the C compiler other than implementing local variables
in MFX, you considered me to be incompetent as a C programmer. I left Testra
because of this. You had never praised me for writing MFX, and you weren't providing
me with health insurance although Steve Brault got health insurance, and Tom Hart
told me clearly that I would never get a raise in pay. So I left. I still expected to get
a reference for writing MFX, but I later heard you (or Tom Hart impersonating you)
on a speaker phone saying that I had accomplished nothing and I was not eligible
for rehire. Now three decades later though, you admit for the first time that I did
write MFX and that you still rely on MFX at Testra. Why didn't you admit this in 1995?
Have a look here for
WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/wydQr643gX0/m/mvVy-GN7AwAJ
But does it really matter?
John Hart is posting interesting information one generation later.
You gave a monkeys about such a project for 30 years now. Did not share anything.
10 000 times you woke up and decided
- I will not tell anybody about this project,
just concentate on concentrated agression and lies..
I am looking forward to more interesting information from John,
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 3:30:15 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 21:30:55 UTC+1, Hugh Aguilar wrote:
On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
Lower case is used for Locals.
{ a 2b - c 2d - e f -1, 0 }
a, 32b input
2b, 64b input (double)
c, 32b temporary
2d, 64b temporary
e, f, outputs
-1, output available flag
0, no output flag
44 -> c, store 44 in c
AT a, pointer to first local
Comments?You seem to be trying to implement local variables with data-types.
This is a bad idea. Various people have tried to turn Forth into a typed language similar to Pascal and this has never worked out well.
I would not do this. This is just the latest in your lengthy series of bad ideas.
I had local variables working in MFX back in 1995.
Are you trying to insult me be implying that I didn't have local variables in MFX?
The story is that, I wrote MFX for the purpose of supporting the motion-control
program. This succeeded. The MiniForth ran the laser-etcher. MFX didn't have locals
because the motion-control program was ported from the LMI 80c320 cross-compiler that didn't have locals, so the motion-control program didn't
use locals. You told me that my next project would be to write a C compiler for
the MiniForth, because most customers want C, although you had no intention
of ever writing C code for the MiniForth yourself because you only know Forth
and you were okay with MFX. So I bought a book (my own money) on LCC and began reading up on how to write a C compiler. I also asked for an upgrade to
the MiniForth to support local variables. The MiniForth doesn't have indexed
addressing, so a traditional local-frame was not realistic. You provided 16 fast
memory locations in the bottom of data-memory. I implemented 16 local variables
in these fast locations and I would move the whole block to a stack upon function
entrance, then move the block back upon function exit to restore for the parent
function. This is the same technique that is used in 8032 C compilers because
the 8032 doesn't have indexed addressing either. I wrote a lot of ghost functions
to support local variables. For example, I had post-increment, pre-increment,
post-decrement, and pre-decrement for the locals. There were hundreds of ghost functions using the local variables in various ways.
Ghost functions didn't "materialize" until they were first referenced. I could have
hundreds of ghost functions but none of them used any code-memory unless they
were actually referenced in the Forth program, whereupon they would be compiled
into code-memory, and any later reference would use this compiled code too.
There was only 64KW of code-memory available, so I had to not fill it up with code
that never gets used. I could provide ghost functions for all 16 local variables,
but most programs would never have any functions that used all 16 local variables,
so the code supporting the upper locals would never materialize and take up room
in code-memory.
C actually requires support for 32 local variables, so I couldn't be fully C compatible.It seems you memories are fading.
LCC is really designed for a processor with 32 registers, such as the MIPS, etc..
I only had 16 fast locations in memory. I considered using only 8 of these for locals,
and leave the other 8 for pseudo-registers. This would be roughly comparable to the
8086 that also has only 8 registers. This would not work for LCC though because it
is designed for more modern processors with a lot of registers. All in all, I was very
unenthusiastic about writing a C compiler for the MiniForth. I expected that it was
going to generate slow inefficient code because the MiniForth is really designed to
support Forth, not C. Everybody in the world would say that this proves that I'm
utterly incompetent. Nobody would consider MFX to be a good Forth compiler, but
everybody would consider MFX to be a bad C compiler written by an incompetent.
You were telling me that you expected the C compiler to be written fairly quickly
because you weren't willing to spend a lot of money on it, and because I hadn't
made any progress on the C compiler other than implementing local variables
in MFX, you considered me to be incompetent as a C programmer. I left Testra
because of this. You had never praised me for writing MFX, and you weren't providing
me with health insurance although Steve Brault got health insurance, and Tom Hart
told me clearly that I would never get a raise in pay. So I left. I still expected to get
a reference for writing MFX, but I later heard you (or Tom Hart impersonating you)
on a speaker phone saying that I had accomplished nothing and I was not eligible
for rehire. Now three decades later though, you admit for the first time that I did
write MFX and that you still rely on MFX at Testra. Why didn't you admit this in 1995?
Have a look here for
WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/wydQr643gX0/m/mvVy-GN7AwAJ
But does it really matter?
John Hart is posting interesting information one generation later.
You gave a monkeys about such a project for 30 years now. Did not share anything.
10 000 times you woke up and decided
- I will not tell anybody about this project,
just concentate on concentrated agression and lies..
I am looking forward to more interesting information from John,Then why are you talking to Hugh? Do you ever get anything useful from such discourse?
I should ask myself why I try to talk to you about talking to Hugh. Most people know not to engage him. I don't know why I try to get through to you about this. I guess I have the same mental illness as you.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
I wrote a lot of ghost functions
to support local variables. For example, I had post-increment, pre-increment,
post-decrement, and pre-decrement for the locals. There were hundreds of ghost functions using the local variables in various ways.
Ghost functions didn't "materialize" until they were first referenced. I could have
hundreds of ghost functions but none of them used any code-memory unless they
were actually referenced in the Forth program, whereupon they would be compiled
into code-memory, and any later reference would use this compiled code too.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:45:22 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:many ways, the two of you are cut from the same cloth. I should never bother to try to explain this to you. I have done so many times, but you shrug it off as you believe you are on a pure quest and can do no harm.
On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 08:18:10 UTC+1, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 3:30:15 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
It seems you memories are fading.
Have a look here for
WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/wydQr643gX0/m/mvVy-GN7AwAJ
But does it really matter?
John Hart is posting interesting information one generation later.
You gave a monkeys about such a project for 30 years now. Did not share anything.
10 000 times you woke up and decided
- I will not tell anybody about this project,
just concentate on concentrated agression and lies..
I am looking forward to more interesting information from John,Then why are you talking to Hugh? Do you ever get anything useful from such discourse?
I should ask myself why I try to talk to you about talking to Hugh. Most people know not to engage him. I don't know why I try to get through to you about this. I guess I have the same mental illness as you.
--
Rick C.
Yes, exactly. You are posting very emotionally, spewing your bile across the group. I've tried to explain this to you before, but you can't comprehend that YOUR BILE is just as bad for Forth and the clf group, as HIS BILE. I've come to realize that in- Get 1,000 miles of free SuperchargingI post when I feel like.
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
He has been agressive enough against me and MPE when I was working for them.He is a nut, posting crap on the Internet. It's hard to imagine that is of any real harm to you, in any way. Ignore him, and he goes away. 99% of us here manage to do that. Why can't you?
This is now for more than 10 years.
This Forth Killer will not stop until he dies.You can't kill something that is already dead.
But at least others should know, and not everybody should let him piss off everybodyWait, are you talking about Hugh, or yourself?
and make people move away from here and from Forth.
The WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA was one of the best posts I ever started.
More people read this than any other post I have seen here.
So they know now.
Why you waste everybodies time with such a post of yours I do not understand.That is the funniest thing you have ever written. LOL
But there we are.Yes, and you never learn. I'm sorry I bothered you. In the future, I'll try to refrain from providing you with a view into reality.
This had been discussed here many many times before.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 08:18:10 UTC+1, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 3:30:15 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
It seems you memories are fading.
Have a look here for
WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/wydQr643gX0/m/mvVy-GN7AwAJ
But does it really matter?
John Hart is posting interesting information one generation later.
You gave a monkeys about such a project for 30 years now. Did not share anything.
10 000 times you woke up and decided
- I will not tell anybody about this project,
just concentate on concentrated agression and lies..
I am looking forward to more interesting information from John,Then why are you talking to Hugh? Do you ever get anything useful from such discourse?
I should ask myself why I try to talk to you about talking to Hugh. Most people know not to engage him. I don't know why I try to get through to you about this. I guess I have the same mental illness as you.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free SuperchargingI post when I feel like.
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
He has been agressive enough against me and MPE when I was working for them. This is now for more than 10 years.
This Forth Killer will not stop until he dies.
But at least others should know, and not everybody should let him piss off everybody
and make people move away from here and from Forth.
The WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA was one of the best posts I ever started.
More people read this than any other post I have seen here.
So they know now.
Why you waste everybodies time with such a post of yours I do not understand.
But there we are.
This had been discussed here many many times before.
On Tuesday, 16 May 2023 at 18:29:54 UTC+1, Lorem Ipsum wrote:in many ways, the two of you are cut from the same cloth. I should never bother to try to explain this to you. I have done so many times, but you shrug it off as you believe you are on a pure quest and can do no harm.
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:45:22 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 08:18:10 UTC+1, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 3:30:15 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
It seems you memories are fading.
Have a look here for
WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/wydQr643gX0/m/mvVy-GN7AwAJ
But does it really matter?
John Hart is posting interesting information one generation later.
You gave a monkeys about such a project for 30 years now. Did not share anything.
10 000 times you woke up and decided
- I will not tell anybody about this project,
just concentate on concentrated agression and lies..
I am looking forward to more interesting information from John,Then why are you talking to Hugh? Do you ever get anything useful from such discourse?
I should ask myself why I try to talk to you about talking to Hugh. Most people know not to engage him. I don't know why I try to get through to you about this. I guess I have the same mental illness as you.
--
Rick C.
Yes, exactly. You are posting very emotionally, spewing your bile across the group. I've tried to explain this to you before, but you can't comprehend that YOUR BILE is just as bad for Forth and the clf group, as HIS BILE. I've come to realize that- Get 1,000 miles of free SuperchargingI post when I feel like.
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
He has been agressive enough against me and MPE when I was working for them.He is a nut, posting crap on the Internet. It's hard to imagine that is of any real harm to you, in any way. Ignore him, and he goes away. 99% of us here manage to do that. Why can't you?
This is now for more than 10 years.
This Forth Killer will not stop until he dies.You can't kill something that is already dead.
But at least others should know, and not everybody should let him piss off everybodyWait, are you talking about Hugh, or yourself?
and make people move away from here and from Forth.
The WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA was one of the best posts I ever started. More people read this than any other post I have seen here.
So they know now.
Why you waste everybodies time with such a post of yours I do not understand.That is the funniest thing you have ever written. LOL
But there we are.Yes, and you never learn. I'm sorry I bothered you. In the future, I'll try to refrain from providing you with a view into reality.
This had been discussed here many many times before.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free SuperchargingHow you try to sell your bullshit is just funny
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
- but as there is not much else here
- you will continue anyway.
Though every time you say you will not.
Very funny again.
If Forth is dead for you - why are you here?
No Wife, no friends - but CLF ?
On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 2:10:18 PM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:in many ways, the two of you are cut from the same cloth. I should never bother to try to explain this to you. I have done so many times, but you shrug it off as you believe you are on a pure quest and can do no harm.
On Tuesday, 16 May 2023 at 18:29:54 UTC+1, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:45:22 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 08:18:10 UTC+1, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 3:30:15 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
It seems you memories are fading.
Have a look here for
WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/wydQr643gX0/m/mvVy-GN7AwAJ
But does it really matter?
John Hart is posting interesting information one generation later.
You gave a monkeys about such a project for 30 years now. Did not share anything.
10 000 times you woke up and decided
- I will not tell anybody about this project,
just concentate on concentrated agression and lies..
I am looking forward to more interesting information from John,Then why are you talking to Hugh? Do you ever get anything useful from such discourse?
I should ask myself why I try to talk to you about talking to Hugh. Most people know not to engage him. I don't know why I try to get through to you about this. I guess I have the same mental illness as you.
--
Rick C.
Yes, exactly. You are posting very emotionally, spewing your bile across the group. I've tried to explain this to you before, but you can't comprehend that YOUR BILE is just as bad for Forth and the clf group, as HIS BILE. I've come to realize that- Get 1,000 miles of free SuperchargingI post when I feel like.
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
"battle", because that is how you have refereed to it.He has been agressive enough against me and MPE when I was working for them.He is a nut, posting crap on the Internet. It's hard to imagine that is of any real harm to you, in any way. Ignore him, and he goes away. 99% of us here manage to do that. Why can't you?
This is now for more than 10 years.
This Forth Killer will not stop until he dies.You can't kill something that is already dead.
But at least others should know, and not everybody should let him piss off everybodyWait, are you talking about Hugh, or yourself?
and make people move away from here and from Forth.
The WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA was one of the best posts I ever started. More people read this than any other post I have seen here.
So they know now.
Why you waste everybodies time with such a post of yours I do not understand.That is the funniest thing you have ever written. LOL
But there we are.Yes, and you never learn. I'm sorry I bothered you. In the future, I'll try to refrain from providing you with a view into reality.
This had been discussed here many many times before.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free SuperchargingHow you try to sell your bullshit is just funny
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
- but as there is not much else here
- you will continue anyway.
Though every time you say you will not.
Very funny again.
If Forth is dead for you - why are you here?Yes, I think of clf as my wife. I guess it is your mistress. Should I be jealous?
No Wife, no friends - but CLF ?
You have to admit, you are good material for any stand up comedian. I think in all the times I've tried to explain to you how your vitriolic posts are just as bad as anyone else's, only one time did you give up the "battle" and not respond. I call it a
Whatever, this is very thin entertainment. It's not entirely different from teasing the town fool. When others do it, it can be amusing, but it's not something I have much fun doing. Still, I'm waiting for a contract, so I do get bored.
--
Rick C.
-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
If Forth is dead for you - why are you here?
No Wife, no friends - but CLF ?
On 17/05/2023 3:30 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
If Forth is dead for you - why are you here?It's as good a place as any to see the world in microcosm.
No Wife, no friends - but CLF ?
On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 09:16:09 UTC+1, dxforth wrote:
On 17/05/2023 3:30 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
It's as good a place as any to see the world in microcosm.
If Forth is dead for you - why are you here?
No Wife, no friends - but CLF ?
It is just sad to see
that John tries to give a projet to the Forth community,
but too many posts are neither Forth related nor Project related.
The WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA was one of the best posts I ever started.
More people read this than any other post I have seen here.
On 17/05/2023 7:11 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 09:16:09 UTC+1, dxforth wrote:
On 17/05/2023 3:30 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
It's as good a place as any to see the world in microcosm.
If Forth is dead for you - why are you here?
No Wife, no friends - but CLF ?
It is just sad to seeWhy sadness when your posts are the most popular.
that John tries to give a projet to the Forth community,
but too many posts are neither Forth related nor Project related.
On 15/05/2023 7:45 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
The WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA was one of the best posts I ever started.
More people read this than any other post I have seen here.
On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 14:15:34 UTC+1, dxforth wrote:
On 17/05/2023 7:11 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 09:16:09 UTC+1, dxforth wrote:
On 17/05/2023 3:30 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
It's as good a place as any to see the world in microcosm.
If Forth is dead for you - why are you here?
No Wife, no friends - but CLF ?
It is just sad to seeWhy sadness when your posts are the most popular.
that John tries to give a projet to the Forth community,
but too many posts are neither Forth related nor Project related.
On 15/05/2023 7:45 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
If there are only a few who post here now,The WHAT HAPPENED AT TESTRA was one of the best posts I ever started. More people read this than any other post I have seen here.
this seemingly brings up the relative ( and probably undeserved) importance.
I rather want to see here information about Forth,
and what John Hart posts about.
On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 21:30:55 UTC+1, Hugh Aguilar wrote:<clip>
On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:51:59 PM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
Lower case is used for Locals.
{ a 2b - c 2d - e f -1, 0 }
a, 32b input
2b, 64b input (double)
c, 32b temporary
2d, 64b temporary
e, f, outputs
-1, output available flag
0, no output flag
44 -> c, store 44 in c
AT a, pointer to first local
Comments?You seem to be trying to implement local variables with data-types.
On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 21:30:55 UTC+1, Hugh Aguilar wrote:<clip>
You seem to be trying to implement local variables with data-types.
Convention isn't dependent on Implimentation.
The question: Is a leading number (2) a good way to signify the local is a double?
The Code gets ugly using singles for doubles and that's the convention we established.
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
In article <474678ef-ab80-411a...@googlegroups.com>,
Hugh Aguilar <hughag...@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
Nobody should hire Testra because Tom Hart and John Hart are liars.Are that the Hart's you have worked for? The Hart's that keep a company running for decennia while you were plumbing are tax-driving?
Groetjes Albert
--
Don't praise the day before the evening. One swallow doesn't make spring. You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in the air. First gain is a cat spinning. - the Wise from Antrim -
In article <0ff9666d-e22e-4370...@googlegroups.com>,
<hughag...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:54:28 AM UTC-7, Albert van der Horst wrote:
\ You only need D- and D<=
: .cf2 BEGIN 100000 0 DO 2OVER D- 2DUP 0. D<= IF I . LEAVE THEN
LOOP 2DUP OR WHILE 2OVER D+
.S KEY DROP \ Can leave this out
2SWAP REPEAT ;
Make that correct by
2SWAP REPEAT 1 . ;
"
3.141592653589793238
1.000000000000000000
2DUP D. 2OVER D. KEY DROP .cf2
You don't know what continued fractions are
Said the cab-driver to the mathematician
--- your code is nonsense ---It gives the same results as your code, except for the correction
I gave.
you posted this as a loyalty demonstration to Elizabeth Rather.I must say, I feel a connection with ER, like we are in the
same camp or something.
Maintenance programmers live in a fantasy world in which programs are full of >"cruft," which they claim is dead code that was never used or was used
in the past
but became obsolete yet was left in the software. The maintenance programmer's >greatest thrill is to delete cruft. The maintenance programmer will puff
up his hollow
chest and brag: "I deleted X bytes of cruft from the software, and the >software still
does what it is supposed to do, so I have simplified the program!"
The truth is that maintenance programmers can't program, so instead they delete
code that they claim is "cruft" but which is just code that they don't >understand.
Tom Hart was always spouting pseudo-intellectual quasi-religious drivel in his >thirty-two ounce discourses. This is typical:
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by Godfor a purpose.
Now we find that Albert van der Horst is John Hart's #2 greatest fan
(Juergen Pintaske is #1 and will always be #1).
What the hell does any of this pseudo-intellectual quasi-religious drivel mean?Much obliged if you supply a better translation.
"First gain is a cat spinning." WTF??? Put down your crack pipe, Albert! STFU! It is a translation of the Dutch saying "eerste gewin is kattegespin".
Albert van der Horst is the same idiot who posted nonsense code and claimed >that it did a continued fraction calculation. He should work for Testra! LOL<SNIP>
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 2:14:22 AM UTC-7, Albert van der Horst wrote:
In article <0ff9666d-e22e-4370...@googlegroups.com>,
<hughag...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:54:28 AM UTC-7, Albert van der Horst wrote:
\ You only need D- and D<=
: .cf2 BEGIN 100000 0 DO 2OVER D- 2DUP 0. D<= IF I . LEAVE THEN
LOOP 2DUP OR WHILE 2OVER D+
.S KEY DROP \ Can leave this out
2SWAP REPEAT ;
Make that correct by
2SWAP REPEAT 1 . ;
"
3.141592653589793238
1.000000000000000000
2DUP D. 2OVER D. KEY DROP .cf2
You don't know what continued fractions are
Said the cab-driver to the mathematician
--- your code is nonsense ---
<I feel better now that you attacked me>
On Wednesday, 24 May 2023 at 09:54:49 UTC+1, none albert wrote:
<I feel better now that you attacked me>
It is a translation of the Dutch saying "eerste gewin is kattegespin".
Much obliged if you supply a better translation.
"The first victory is the cat's purr"
%SNA ( -- n ) \ returns the output state
Tom Hart was always spouting pseudo-intellectual quasi-religious drivel in his
thirty-two ounce discourses. This is typical:
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God >for a purpose.
Albert van der Horst is the same idiot who posted nonsense code and claimed >that it did a continued fraction calculation. He should work for Testra! LOL
On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 2:14:22 AM UTC-7, Albert van der Horst wrote: >> In article <0ff9666d-e22e-4370...@googlegroups.com>,<SNIP>
<hughag...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:54:28 AM UTC-7, Albert van der Horst wrote: >> >>
\ You only need D- and D<=
: .cf2 BEGIN 100000 0 DO 2OVER D- 2DUP 0. D<= IF I . LEAVE THEN
LOOP 2DUP OR WHILE 2OVER D+
.S KEY DROP \ Can leave this out
2SWAP REPEAT ;
Make that correct by
2SWAP REPEAT 1 . ;
"
3.141592653589793238
1.000000000000000000
2DUP D. 2OVER D. KEY DROP .cf2
You don't know what continued fractions are
Said the cab-driver to the mathematician
--- your code is nonsense ---
I leaves this in because it is interesting code.
It works and after all those years Aguilar has never tried
it to see that it works.
For converting a real number into a ratio, you need to use continued fractions.
I have this in the novice-package, but I didn't write it --- it was written by
Nathaniel Grossman and published in "Forth Dimensions" (Sep/Oct 1984) --- all I did was upgrade his program to work under 32-bit ANS-Forth rather than 16-bit Forth-83.
CF is very slow because ANS-Forth lacks a double-precision division ---
this had to be written in high-level Forth ---
this is UD/MOD which is in the support code.
Here is an example:
3141592653589793238. ok-2
1000000000000000000. ok-4
cf
partial-quot numerator denominator
3 3 1
7 22 7
15 333 106
1 355 113
292 103993 33102
1 104348 33215
1 208341 66317
1 312689 99532
2 833719 265381
1 1146408 364913
3 4272943 1360120
1 5419351 1725033
14 80143857 25510582
2 165707065 52746197
1 245850922 78256779
1 411557987 131002976
2 1068966896 340262731
2 2549491779 811528438
1 3618458675 1151791169
12 45970995879 14633022466
1 49589454554 15784813635
3 194739359541 61987463371
1 244328814095 77772277006
6 1660712244111 528621125407
1 1905041058206 606393402413
4 9280876476935 2954194735059
1 11185917535141 3560588137472
18 210627392109473 67044781209555
1 221813309644614 70605369347027
3 876067321043315 278860889250636
5 4602149914861189 1464909815600207
2 10080367150765693 3208680520451050
2 24762884216392575 7882270856502307
1 34843251367158268 11090951376953357
1 59606135583550843 18973222233455664
1 94449386950709111 30064173610409021
16 1570796326794896619 500000000000000000 ok
On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 4:53:13 AM UTC-7, krishna...@ccreweb.org wrote:
Very good. The continued fraction should truncate when we have achieveYou are right. I should make it stop after it has achieved maximum precision.
the same number of significant digits specified for r, in this case, 15.
<clip all not having to do with the question:>
...
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
ALL SHALL BE WELL
And from the time the vision was shown, I desired often to know
what our Lord’s meaning was. Fifteen years and more afterward I
was answered in my spiritual understanding, thus:
Would you know your Lord’s meaning in this vision?
Know it well, love is his meaning.
Who showed it to you? Love.
What did he show you? Love.
Why did he show it? For love.
Keep yourself therein, and you shall know and understand more
in the same but you shall never know nor understand any other
thing, forever.
Thus I was taught that love was our Lord’s meaning. And I saw
quite clearly in this and in all, that before God made us, he
loved us, which love was never slaked, nor ever shall be. And
in this love he has done all his work and in this love he has
made all things profitable to us. And in his love our life is
everlasting. In our creation, we have beginning, but the love
wherein he made us was in him with no beginning. And all this
shall be seen in God without end.
Dame Julian, 1373, first woman author. (English)
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:34:05 AM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
<clip all not having to do with the question:>
...
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
ALL SHALL BE WELL
And from the time the vision was shown, I desired often to know
what our Lord’s meaning was. Fifteen years and more afterward I
was answered in my spiritual understanding, thus:
Would you know your Lord’s meaning in this vision?
Know it well, love is his meaning.
Who showed it to you? Love.
What did he show you? Love.
Why did he show it? For love.
Keep yourself therein, and you shall know and understand more
in the same but you shall never know nor understand any other
thing, forever.
Thus I was taught that love was our Lord’s meaning. And I saw
quite clearly in this and in all, that before God made us, he
loved us, which love was never slaked, nor ever shall be. And
in this love he has done all his work and in this love he has
made all things profitable to us. And in his love our life is
everlasting. In our creation, we have beginning, but the love
wherein he made us was in him with no beginning. And all this
shall be seen in God without end.
Dame Julian, 1373, first woman author. (English)Christianity is blatant idolatry.
The definition of idolatry is pretty much the worship of a person
as a god. The Christians worship Jesus Christ as their god.
Jesus Christ was a person --- he is always depicted as being a
skinny white guy who was incongruously living in Palestine,
a land normally populated by swarthy Middle Eastern people.
According to the Catholics, Jesus Christ bled profusely when
he was crucified. Bleeding is obviously an attribute of a person.
Mel Gibson is a Catholic, as is John Hart. Mel Gibson produced
the movie "The Passion of the Christ." This was a snuff film.
Jesus Christ was played by Jim Caviezel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Caviezel
Jesus Christ was portrayed as being an ordinary average guy.
To say that Jesus Christ is "God" (capital 'G') is blatant idolatry.
The Christian idol is a corpse on a stick --- that is gross!
Also, all of this Christian self-congratulation about "love" is
annoying. Historically, Christians have been a purely destructive
force. Christianity is not about love. Christianity is about genocide.
On Wednesday, 24 May 2023 at 18:33:09 UTC+1, Hugh Aguilar wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:34:05 AM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
<clip all not having to do with the question:>
Thank you very much for showing how you fit in.
On Wednesday, 24 May 2023 at 18:33:09 UTC+1, Hugh Aguilar wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:34:05 AM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
<clip all not having to do with the question:>
...
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
ALL SHALL BE WELL
And from the time the vision was shown, I desired often to know
what our Lord’s meaning was. Fifteen years and more afterward I
was answered in my spiritual understanding, thus:
Would you know your Lord’s meaning in this vision?
Know it well, love is his meaning.
Who showed it to you? Love.
What did he show you? Love.
Why did he show it? For love.
Keep yourself therein, and you shall know and understand more
in the same but you shall never know nor understand any other
thing, forever.
Thus I was taught that love was our Lord’s meaning. And I saw
quite clearly in this and in all, that before God made us, he
loved us, which love was never slaked, nor ever shall be. And
in this love he has done all his work and in this love he has
made all things profitable to us. And in his love our life is everlasting. In our creation, we have beginning, but the love
wherein he made us was in him with no beginning. And all this
shall be seen in God without end.
Dame Julian, 1373, first woman author. (English)Christianity is blatant idolatry.
The definition of idolatry is pretty much the worship of a person
as a god. The Christians worship Jesus Christ as their god.
Jesus Christ was a person --- he is always depicted as being a
skinny white guy who was incongruously living in Palestine,
a land normally populated by swarthy Middle Eastern people.
According to the Catholics, Jesus Christ bled profusely when
he was crucified. Bleeding is obviously an attribute of a person.
Mel Gibson is a Catholic, as is John Hart. Mel Gibson produced
the movie "The Passion of the Christ." This was a snuff film.
Jesus Christ was played by Jim Caviezel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Caviezel
Jesus Christ was portrayed as being an ordinary average guy.
To say that Jesus Christ is "God" (capital 'G') is blatant idolatry.
The Christian idol is a corpse on a stick --- that is gross!
Also, all of this Christian self-congratulation about "love" isThank you very much for showing how you fit in.
annoying. Historically, Christians have been a purely destructive
force. Christianity is not about love. Christianity is about genocide.
When you die,
and this will hopefully happen soon so you stop sending your bullshit, sombody can just throw you in a rubbish bin -
or you might be used for dog food?
The definition of idolatry is pretty much the worship of a person
as a god.
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 11:25:11 AM UTC-7, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 May 2023 at 18:33:09 UTC+1, Hugh Aguilar wrote:The very simple question, is { 2var - - } a good/standard notation for a double variable?
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:34:05 AM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
<clip all not having to do with the question:>
generated a thousand lines of off topic flame war posts and NOT one response to the question.
Considering everything I posted was simple compared to what I was trying to explain,
It appears I won't be able to use Google for group access, it won't let me block off topic posters,
and the idea of persuing some type of group action, could be a complete waste of time..
<clip garbage>
Thank you very much for showing how you fit in.Forth is the ideal language for re-configurable computers but it appears I wrongly assumed
there would be more interest in Forth FPGA tools to bridge the gap between firmware and
software, and less interest in acting like spoiled children.
One would think the skill needed for good programing would also apply
to programmers personal life. So far, my experience at comp.lang.forth hasn't
confirmed that conjecture.
jrh
More than a hundred years ago, the science of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, confirmed:
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God, and its purpose is made
clear by scripture.
The firestorm set off by the signature phrase, is strong evidence a Deceiver is lurking
and mental viruses are flourishing in the minds of those it deceived.
<clip all not having to do with the question:>
Is a leading number (2) a good way to signify the local is a double?
jrh
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God
for a purpose.
Dame Julian, 1373, first woman author. (English)
In article <3663e030-61a0-4f61-9d8a-fc4e4d177303n@googlegroups.com>,
John Hart <johnrogerhart@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
Dame Julian, 1373, first woman author. (English)
Are you aware that it is a violation of netiquette to have a signature of more than 4 lines?
On 25/05/2023 7:29 pm, albert wrote:
In article <3663e030-61a0-4f61...@googlegroups.com>,
John Hart <johnro...@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
Dame Julian, 1373, first woman author. (English)
Are you aware that it is a violation of netiquette to have a signature of more than 4 lines?
In article <3663e030-61a0-4f61...@googlegroups.com>,<clip>
John Hart <johnro...@gmail.com> wrote:
<clip all not having to do with the question:>
Is a leading number (2) a good way to signify the local is a double?I think it is not a good idea to start any word that it is not
a denotation of some number with a digit.
Pair then are designated with a P.
So in designing an new language I would
2SWAP --> PSWAP
2NIP --> PNIP
2DROP --> PDROP
Are you aware that it is a violation of netiquette to have a signature of more than 4 lines?Yes:
Groetjes Albert
The very simple question, is { 2var - - } a good/standard notation for a double variable?
generated a thousand lines of off topic flame war posts and NOT one response to the question.
Considering everything I posted was simple compared to what I was trying to explain,
It appears I won't be able to use Google for group access, it won't let me block off topic posters,
and the idea of persuing some type of group action, could be a complete waste of time..
You seem to be trying to implement local variables with data-types.
This is a bad idea. Various people have tried to turn Forth into a typed language similar to Pascal and this has never worked out well.
I would not do this. This is just the latest in your lengthy series of bad ideas.
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
Until we know the purpose, we are like ships without rudders, wandering aimlessly
until we sink.
...
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
Until we know the purpose, we are like ships without rudders, wandering aimlessly
until we sink.
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
Discovering the purpose is what life's all about.
On 26/05/2023 6:22 am, John Hart wrote:
...
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
Until we know the purpose, we are like ships without rudders, wandering aimlessly
until we sink.
On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 2:21:37 PM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:<clip>
The very simple question, is { 2var - - } a good/standard notation for a double variable?
On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 1:30:55 PM UTC-7, Hugh Aguilar wrote:<clip>
<clip>I would not do this <clip> bad idea.
Make all of your locals double-size, little-endian.<clip>
Prior to calling your sub-function, use S>D or U>D to convert the parameters into doubles either signed or unsigned. Inside of the function, make your locals
like variables in that they provide an address. You use @ or ! to access them
(if you want to consider them to be single-precision). Or you use 2@ or 2! to access them
(if you want to consider them to be double-precision). So, you can work with your
locals as either single-precision or double-precision, without declaring them to have
a data-type ---
I have explained the problem [ i have ] with data-typing in Forth.Yes, you've made that very clear.
On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
Discovering the purpose is what life's all about.
"Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall."
I believe in God, but I don't pray or otherwise try to make contact ith God, because this is the path to self-destruction --- it is best to just accept your limitations.
Just wondering. Are comments on a signature, good forum etiquette?
jrh
Reality is an information process, designed by God to produce living beings.
On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 1:29:07 PM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by Godfor a purpose.
Discovering the purpose is what life's all about.
In the book, "A Scanner Darkly," we were told the story of Joe, the man
who saw God.
Perhaps better after the formal prefix '/n-- /n'?
In article <95e36cc2-e925-4e80-888b-ff0ace3ad59fn@googlegroups.com>,
Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 1:29:07???PM UTC-7, John Hart wrote:
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by Godfor a purpose.
Discovering the purpose is what life's all about.
In the book, "A Scanner Darkly," we were told the story of Joe, the man
who saw God.
<SNIP>
Marvelous story. Who was the writer?
But for some reason, I keep trying.
On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 2:29:33 AM UTC-7, none albert wrote:
In article <3663e030-61a0-4f61...@googlegroups.com>,<clip>
John Hart <johnro...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is a leading number (2) a good way to signify the local is a double?I think it is not a good idea to start any word that it is not
a denotation of some number with a digit.
Pair then are designated with a P.
So in designing an new language I would
2SWAP --> PSWAP
2NIP --> PNIP
2DROP --> PDROP
Thank's for the input.
Using 2 to indicate doubles was probably a bad idea,
but its embedded in so much code, the transition to something else would be difficult
and impossible to impose on the Forth community. And mistaking the type designating letter
for part of the label could cause problems.
When I was young my Grandfather told me, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
Christ stated it differently, "Cast not pearl before swine."
Mark Twain, "It's easier to fool people than convince them they''ve been fooled."
My friend from high school summed it up nicely with, "You can't fix stupid." But for some reason, I keep trying.
jrh
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
Until we know the purpose, we are like ships without rudders, wandering aimlessly
until we sink.
On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 8:09:29 PM UTC-7, dxforth wrote:
On 26/05/2023 6:22 am, John Hart wrote:
...
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
Until we know the purpose, we are like ships without rudders, wandering aimlessly
until we sink.
Just wondering. Are comments on a signature, good forum etiquette?
On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 8:09:29 PM UTC-7, dxforth wrote:
On 26/05/2023 6:22 am, John Hart wrote:
...
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
Until we know the purpose, we are like ships without rudders, wandering aimlessly
until we sink.
Just wondering. Are comments on a signature, good forum etiquette?
I'm unaware of any netiquette stating signatures are one-way communications. >That would make them propaganda.
' characters.
In article <u4rr6o$90tj$1@dont-email.me>, dxforth <dxforth@gmail.com> wrote:
On 26/05/2023 4:13 pm, John Hart wrote:
On Thursday, May 25, 2023 at 8:09:29 PM UTC-7, dxforth wrote:
On 26/05/2023 6:22 am, John Hart wrote:
...
Reality is an information process, set in motion and sustained by God for a purpose.
Until we know the purpose, we are like ships without rudders, wandering aimlessly
until we sink.
Just wondering. Are comments on a signature, good forum etiquette?
I'm unaware of any netiquette stating signatures are one-way communications. >> That would make them propaganda.
I guess you could comment on signatures provided they are quotes by
' characters.
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