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    From dxforth@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 6 20:09:23 2023
    "I developed an attitude known as perfectionism. It is not popular but it
    does lead to success in some things like programming."

    "I encourage people to write their own Forth. The standard doesn't mean that
    you cannot invent something."

    "The medium of interchange is ideas not code. Tell me how you did a heap sort,
    don't give me your code. [...] I won't use your code anyway I will rewrite it."

    "I don't like the idea of a Forth, old or new, that does everything."

    "There is an opposition to standard Forth."

    "I am not in the business of promoting Forth. I am not promoting what I am
    doing here. I am just reporting it."

    "The concept that programming is something that you need special education
    to do is not right. It is something that is promoted by the priesthood."

    http://www.ultratechnology.com/color4th.html

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  • From minforth@arcor.de@21:1/5 to dxforth on Mon Mar 6 01:35:12 2023
    dxforth schrieb am Montag, 6. März 2023 um 10:09:26 UTC+1:
    "The concept that programming is something that you need special education to do is not right. It is something that is promoted by the priesthood."


    Doing math in Forth is even older than that:
    Go Forth and multiply (Genesis 1:22 KJV)

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  • From Marcel Hendrix@21:1/5 to minf...@arcor.de on Mon Mar 6 03:32:36 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 10:35:14 AM UTC+1, minf...@arcor.de wrote:
    dxforth schrieb am Montag, 6. März 2023 um 10:09:26 UTC+1:
    "The concept that programming is something that you need special education to do is not right. It is something that is promoted by the priesthood."

    Doing math in Forth is even older than that:
    Go Forth and multiply (Genesis 1:22 KJV)

    A widely misunderstood but enthusiastically practised concept.

    -marcel

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  • From Hans Bezemer@21:1/5 to minf...@arcor.de on Mon Mar 6 06:18:58 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 10:35:14 AM UTC+1, minf...@arcor.de wrote:
    dxforth schrieb am Montag, 6. März 2023 um 10:09:26 UTC+1:
    "The concept that programming is something that you need special education to do is not right. It is something that is promoted by the priesthood."

    Doing math in Forth is even older than that:
    Go Forth and multiply (Genesis 1:22 KJV)

    : GO 1 2 3 ; ok
    SYNONYM multiply * ok
    go forth and multiply . 2 ok

    Hans Bezemer

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  • From Brian Fox@21:1/5 to Hans Bezemer on Mon Mar 6 12:15:50 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:18:59 AM UTC-5, Hans Bezemer wrote:
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 10:35:14 AM UTC+1, minf...@arcor.de wrote:
    dxforth schrieb am Montag, 6. März 2023 um 10:09:26 UTC+1:
    "The concept that programming is something that you need special education
    to do is not right. It is something that is promoted by the priesthood."

    Doing math in Forth is even older than that:
    Go Forth and multiply (Genesis 1:22 KJV)
    : GO 1 2 3 ; ok
    SYNONYM multiply * ok
    go forth and multiply . 2 ok

    Hans Bezemer

    You know you're a nerd when... :-)
    That's a good one. I laughed out loud.

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  • From minforth@arcor.de@21:1/5 to dxforth on Mon Mar 6 13:25:13 2023
    dxforth schrieb am Montag, 6. März 2023 um 10:09:26 UTC+1:
    "There is an opposition to standard Forth."

    But quoting Bjarne Stroustroup
    "First, I'd like to see the basic tools such as compilers, debuggers, profilers, database interfaces, GUI builders, CAD tools, and so
    Forth fully support the ISO standard."

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to minf...@arcor.de on Tue Mar 7 11:51:24 2023
    On 7/03/2023 8:25 am, minf...@arcor.de wrote:
    dxforth schrieb am Montag, 6. März 2023 um 10:09:26 UTC+1:
    "There is an opposition to standard Forth."

    But quoting Bjarne Stroustroup
    "First, I'd like to see the basic tools such as compilers, debuggers, profilers, database interfaces, GUI builders, CAD tools, and so
    Forth fully support the ISO standard."

    Yesterday I reinstalled the MPLAB toolchain - 700MB of installer and several gigabytes unpacked. All this to use an assembler to compile Forth. Luckily
    I had made notes from the first time around on setting up the monster so I could 'press a button' and have it compile. This is Stroustroup's legacy :)

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  • From minforth@arcor.de@21:1/5 to dxforth on Mon Mar 6 22:21:11 2023
    dxforth schrieb am Dienstag, 7. März 2023 um 01:51:26 UTC+1:
    On 7/03/2023 8:25 am, minf...@arcor.de wrote:
    dxforth schrieb am Montag, 6. März 2023 um 10:09:26 UTC+1:
    "There is an opposition to standard Forth."

    But quoting Bjarne Stroustroup
    "First, I'd like to see the basic tools such as compilers, debuggers, profilers, database interfaces, GUI builders, CAD tools, and so
    Forth fully support the ISO standard."
    Yesterday I reinstalled the MPLAB toolchain - 700MB of installer and several gigabytes unpacked. All this to use an assembler to compile Forth. Luckily
    I had made notes from the first time around on setting up the monster so I could 'press a button' and have it compile. This is Stroustroup's legacy :)

    Why install a tractor when all you need is a screwdriver?
    Ah.. John Deere is to blame.

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  • From minforth@arcor.de@21:1/5 to dxforth on Mon Mar 6 22:31:38 2023
    dxforth schrieb am Dienstag, 7. März 2023 um 01:51:26 UTC+1:
    On 7/03/2023 8:25 am, minf...@arcor.de wrote:
    dxforth schrieb am Montag, 6. März 2023 um 10:09:26 UTC+1:
    "There is an opposition to standard Forth."

    But quoting Bjarne Stroustroup
    "First, I'd like to see the basic tools such as compilers, debuggers, profilers, database interfaces, GUI builders, CAD tools, and so
    Forth fully support the ISO standard."
    Yesterday I reinstalled the MPLAB toolchain - 700MB of installer and several gigabytes unpacked. All this to use an assembler to compile Forth. Luckily
    I had made notes from the first time around on setting up the monster so I could 'press a button' and have it compile. This is Stroustroup's legacy :)

    Why install a tractor when all you need is a shovel?
    Ah.. John Deere is to blame.

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  • From dxforth@21:1/5 to minf...@arcor.de on Tue Mar 7 20:21:13 2023
    On 7/03/2023 5:31 pm, minf...@arcor.de wrote:
    dxforth schrieb am Dienstag, 7. März 2023 um 01:51:26 UTC+1:
    On 7/03/2023 8:25 am, minf...@arcor.de wrote:
    dxforth schrieb am Montag, 6. März 2023 um 10:09:26 UTC+1:
    "There is an opposition to standard Forth."

    But quoting Bjarne Stroustroup
    "First, I'd like to see the basic tools such as compilers, debuggers,
    profilers, database interfaces, GUI builders, CAD tools, and so
    Forth fully support the ISO standard."
    Yesterday I reinstalled the MPLAB toolchain - 700MB of installer and several >> gigabytes unpacked. All this to use an assembler to compile Forth. Luckily >> I had made notes from the first time around on setting up the monster so I >> could 'press a button' and have it compile. This is Stroustroup's legacy :)

    Why install a tractor when all you need is a shovel?
    Ah.. John Deere is to blame.

    John Doe can take comfort from knowing how many engineers he is indirectly employing :)

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  • From Clive Arthur@21:1/5 to dxforth on Tue Mar 7 10:35:32 2023
    On 06/03/2023 09:09, dxforth wrote:

    <snip>

    "The concept that programming is something that you need special education
     to do is not right.  It is something that is promoted by the priesthood."

    http://www.ultratechnology.com/color4th.html


    Page and Monarch, Forth they went
    Forth they went together

    --
    Cheers
    Clive

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