On 5 Jul 2022 at 16:38:42 CEST, "Wayne morellini" <waynemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's been over a year. How are things doing?Fine, thanks.
Stephen
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It's been over a year. How are things doing?
On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 16:22:25 UTC+1, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 5 Jul 2022 at 16:38:42 CEST, "Wayne morellini" <waynemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's been over a year. How are things doing?Fine, thanks.
StephenNice to hear that things are doing fine.
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I assume the question was,
if there are any news regarding the 6GHz processor
On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 16:22:25 UTC+1, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 5 Jul 2022 at 16:38:42 CEST, "Wayne morellini" <waynemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's been over a year. How are things doing?Fine, thanks.
StephenNice to hear that things are doing fine.
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I assume the question was,
if there are any news regarding the 6GHz processor
On 5 Jul 2022 at 16:38:42 CEST, "Wayne morellini" <waynemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's been over a year. How are things doing?Fine, thanks.
Stephen
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On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 16:22:25 UTC+1, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 5 Jul 2022 at 16:38:42 CEST, "Wayne morellini" <waynemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's been over a year. How are things doing?Fine, thanks.
StephenI just wonder if there is any news regarding this project
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or if people should rather not ask anyway?
I just wonder if there is any news regarding this project
or if people should rather not ask anyway?
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 1:16:53 PM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 16:22:25 UTC+1, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 5 Jul 2022 at 16:38:42 CEST, "Wayne morellini" <waynemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's been over a year. How are things doing?Fine, thanks.
LOL By "people", you mean *other* people? Why is asking a question about a technical project inappropriate?StephenI just wonder if there is any news regarding this project
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On 30 Apr 2023 at 19:16:51 CEST, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wonder if there is any news regarding this projectWhen
or if people should rather not ask anyway?
a) I have nore news for you, an
b) I am allowed to tell you
I will release the news.
Stephen
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On Sunday, 30 April 2023 at 22:12:43 UTC+1, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 30 Apr 2023 at 19:16:51 CEST, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
Great, Thank YouI just wonder if there is any news regarding this projectWhen
or if people should rather not ask anyway?
a) I have nore news for you, an
b) I am allowed to tell you
I will release the news.
Stephen
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Great, Thank You
and please have a look at
www.mpeforth.com - not working here
https://vfxforth.com/ does
On 30 Apr 2023 at 19:16:51 CEST, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wonder if there is any news regarding this projectWhen
or if people should rather not ask anyway?
a) I have nore news for you, an
b) I am allowed to tell you
I will release the news.
Stephen
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+34 649 662 974
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On 30 Apr 2023 at 19:16:51 CEST, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:..
I wonder, if you can give us an update about the new chip now?
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023, 18:29 Jurgen Pitaske, <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:on JavaScript now).
On Sunday, 30 April 2023 at 22:12:43 UTC+1, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 30 Apr 2023 at 19:16:51 CEST, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:..
I wonder, if you can give us an update about the new chip now?Oh Please! I could have done with a 6Ghz Forth chip 20 years ago, when it was possible. Even if it's based on Ting's old design, with 32+ processors. Especially if it could run Jeff's software and JavaScript (they also have figured out how to run linux
Anyway, the truth is controversial. Back in the tu.e that Intel were trying to push towards 4 and 5Ghz chips, it would have been possible to get higher speeds on a Forth chip. Rather than aim at FPGA, they could have made an Forth MCU with DSP.Basically NASA would have lined up, the military, and a whole bunch of high end applications. You could even charge $10,000 for such a chip, if done right. The rest of us could make do with a stripped down 2ghz version with 1/10 of the processing units,
The truth, is it possible for Green Arrays to make such a chip at 20-50Ghz with internal localised memory on each node treated as a contiguous address space, to feed the nodes fast enough. That would definitely generate a lot of interest. The fact itmay consume 1KW, is not so relevant to these people (I guess it might still be below 100 watts). There are some very high speed applications requiring fast software radio processing. Definitely would save the us chip industry. We are definitely talking
The whole mini transputer thing was a bit of a dead end, but DSP application demand still goes on.
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 16:11:56 UTC+1, S wrote:linux on JavaScript now).
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023, 18:29 Jurgen Pitaske, <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, 30 April 2023 at 22:12:43 UTC+1, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 30 Apr 2023 at 19:16:51 CEST, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:..
I wonder, if you can give us an update about the new chip now?Oh Please! I could have done with a 6Ghz Forth chip 20 years ago, when it was possible. Even if it's based on Ting's old design, with 32+ processors. Especially if it could run Jeff's software and JavaScript (they also have figured out how to run
Basically NASA would have lined up, the military, and a whole bunch of high end applications. You could even charge $10,000 for such a chip, if done right. The rest of us could make do with a stripped down 2ghz version with 1/10 of the processing units,Anyway, the truth is controversial. Back in the tu.e that Intel were trying to push towards 4 and 5Ghz chips, it would have been possible to get higher speeds on a Forth chip. Rather than aim at FPGA, they could have made an Forth MCU with DSP.
may consume 1KW, is not so relevant to these people (I guess it might still be below 100 watts). There are some very high speed applications requiring fast software radio processing. Definitely would save the us chip industry. We are definitely talkingThe truth, is it possible for Green Arrays to make such a chip at 20-50Ghz with internal localised memory on each node treated as a contiguous address space, to feed the nodes fast enough. That would definitely generate a lot of interest. The fact it
The whole mini transputer thing was a bit of a dead end, but DSP application demand still goes on.When I asked Stepen Pelc for an update - if possible - I did not expect such a useless post as you have placed it.
20 years ago you would not have been able to get such a chip - you would have had to save your pocket money for quite some years or tens of years .
Ting got close with having his EP32 made as ASIC
Greenarrays has not done any new designs for about 10 years now.
And it seems you have no clue what the Transputer was about.
I wonder what the S stands for - is it short for Silly comments ???
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 1:24:17=E2=80=AFAM UTC+10, Jurgen Pitaske = >wrote:
20 years ago you would not have been able to get such a chip - you would = >have had to save your pocket money for quite some years or tens of years .= >=20
That's just crazy miscomprehension. It's about designing a miniature overc= >locked CPU, using something like the process node that Pentium 4 used. As = >it is simplified with less transistors, it produces less heat, allowing mor= >e overclocking.
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 1:24:17 AM UTC+10, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:linux on JavaScript now).
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 16:11:56 UTC+1, S wrote:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2023, 18:29 Jurgen Pitaske, <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, 30 April 2023 at 22:12:43 UTC+1, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 30 Apr 2023 at 19:16:51 CEST, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:..
I wonder, if you can give us an update about the new chip now?Oh Please! I could have done with a 6Ghz Forth chip 20 years ago, when it was possible. Even if it's based on Ting's old design, with 32+ processors. Especially if it could run Jeff's software and JavaScript (they also have figured out how to run
Basically NASA would have lined up, the military, and a whole bunch of high end applications. You could even charge $10,000 for such a chip, if done right. The rest of us could make do with a stripped down 2ghz version with 1/10 of the processing units,Anyway, the truth is controversial. Back in the tu.e that Intel were trying to push towards 4 and 5Ghz chips, it would have been possible to get higher speeds on a Forth chip. Rather than aim at FPGA, they could have made an Forth MCU with DSP.
it may consume 1KW, is not so relevant to these people (I guess it might still be below 100 watts). There are some very high speed applications requiring fast software radio processing. Definitely would save the us chip industry. We are definitelyThe truth, is it possible for Green Arrays to make such a chip at 20-50Ghz with internal localised memory on each node treated as a contiguous address space, to feed the nodes fast enough. That would definitely generate a lot of interest. The fact
know this, rather than throw false allegations around!The whole mini transputer thing was a bit of a dead end, but DSP application demand still goes on.When I asked Stepen Pelc for an update - if possible - I did not expect such a useless post as you have placed it.
20 years ago you would not have been able to get such a chip - you would have had to save your pocket money for quite some years or tens of years .That's just crazy miscomprehension. It's about designing a miniature overclocked CPU, using something like the process node that Pentium 4 used. As it is simplified with less transistors, it produces less heat, allowing more overclocking. You should
S <waynemo...@gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 1:24:17=E2=80=AFAM UTC+10, Jurgen Pitaske =
wrote:
20 years ago you would not have been able to get such a chip - you would =have had to save your pocket money for quite some years or tens of years .= >=20
That's just crazy miscomprehension. It's about designing a miniature overc= >locked CPU, using something like the process node that Pentium 4 used. As = >it is simplified with less transistors, it produces less heat, allowing mor=
e overclocking.
Actually, Intel released the Pentium 4 HT 3.0 on April 14, 2003 (3.06
on November 14, 2002, 3.2 on June 23, 2003). These are all
Northwood-based Pentium 4s, i.e., they have ALUs running at double
clock speed, i.e., 6GHz for the 3.0 and 6.4GHz for the 3.2. The
Northwood (and before it, the Willamette) actually were able to
perform two dependent adds per clock cycle (I have measured this on a Northwood).
So, in 20 years old technology it is possible to create a 6GHz stack machine. Whether it is any good in application performance is another question (the Pentium 4 was somewhat disappointing).
Do you know what overclocking is??? It doesn't mean how you are using it.
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S <waynemo...@gmail.com> writes:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 1:24:17=E2=80=AFAM UTC+10, Jurgen Pitaske =
wrote:
20 years ago you would not have been able to get such a chip - you would =have had to save your pocket money for quite some years or tens of years .= >=20
That's just crazy miscomprehension. It's about designing a miniature overc= >locked CPU, using something like the process node that Pentium 4 used. As = >it is simplified with less transistors, it produces less heat, allowing mor=
e overclocking.
Actually, Intel released the Pentium 4 HT 3.0 on April 14, 2003 (3.06
on November 14, 2002, 3.2 on June 23, 2003). These are all
Northwood-based Pentium 4s, i.e., they have ALUs running at double
clock speed, i.e., 6GHz for the 3.0 and 6.4GHz for the 3.2. The
Northwood (and before it, the Willamette) actually were able to
perform two dependent adds per clock cycle (I have measured this on a Northwood).
So, in 20 years old technology it is possible to create a 6GHz stack machine. Whether it is any good in application performance is another question (the Pentium 4 was somewhat disappointing).
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On Friday 2 July 2021 at 9:49:54 pm UTC+10, Stephen Pelc wrote:
An MPE client is currently designing a new dual-stack machine. The
predicted performance is 6 GHz (instructions per second). 40 CPUs
occupy less than 1 sqare mm.
Do you post updates somewhere else? I'm interested in energy envelope range, and if it will be available in quantity for products, or single units for maler projects? I also suggest: a Royal Break Out card. Flexible thin board that exposes lines to holes for maker crowd, with minimal direct memory + flash, usb3 C 10mb/s+ with video over HDMI x2, and exposure of IO pins. That would put it ahead of most SBC products in Arduino/pi spaces and easily surface mount for everybody else, and able to have linux developed for it eventually using the C compiler, even if in a virtual interpreted machine for security. It would then be suitable for small Chinese Linux nucs with internet
media player functions..
On Monday 22 January 2024 at 21:26:18 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 20 Jan 2024 at 01:53:40 CET, "•" <chat....@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday 2 July 2021 at 9:49:54 pm UTC+10, Stephen Pelc wrote:It's a real chip (now) with a specific first application. Once the first
An MPE client is currently designing a new dual-stack machine. The
predicted performance is 6 GHz (instructions per second). 40 CPUs
occupy less than 1 sqare mm.
Do you post updates somewhere else? I'm interested in energy envelope range,
and if it will be available in quantity for products, or single units for >>> maler projects? I also suggest: a Royal Break Out card. Flexible thin board >>> that exposes lines to holes for maker crowd, with minimal direct memory + >>> flash, usb3 C 10mb/s+ with video over HDMI x2, and exposure of IO pins. That
would put it ahead of most SBC products in Arduino/pi spaces and easily
surface mount for everybody else, and able to have linux developed for it >>> eventually using the C compiler, even if in a virtual interpreted machine for
security. It would then be suitable for small Chinese Linux nucs with internet
media player functions..
production
application devices are running I expect that the developers will look at
other
applications and dev tools.
Until then, you just have to wait.
Stephen
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One point is still unclear to me:
Is this a chip just for internal projects,
or will this chip be as well available for the outside world to buy?
Either as a chip or as a development board?
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