9 Chen-Hanson Ting - Footsteps In An Empty Valley issue 3
On Sunday 7 January 2024 at 11:46:36 UTC, none albert wrote:
In article <be0860be-670f-48d8...@googlegroups.com>,
Jurgen Pitaske <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
<NIP>
9 Chen-Hanson Ting - Footsteps In An Empty Valley issue 3I have "Footsteps In An Empty Valley" with no mention of issue.
Is that issue 1 ?
Groetjes Albert
I am sorry, but this is the version Isaue 3 Ting gave me to convert into a book.
We had hoped that Ting would be there in the background to help with any questions.
Which is unfortunately not the case now.
On Sunday 7 January 2024 at 18:21:59 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Sunday 7 January 2024 at 15:36:49 UTC, none albert wrote:
In article <9c2b6fd7-7d87-4ed4...@googlegroups.com>,Copy of the contents pages from the upload of the book:
Jurgen Pitaske <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday 7 January 2024 at 11:46:36 UTC, none albert wrote:Can that be any chance be Third *Edition* March 1988 ?
In article <be0860be-670f-48d8...@googlegroups.com>,
Jurgen Pitaske <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
<NIP>
9 Chen-Hanson Ting - Footsteps In An Empty Valley issue 3I have "Footsteps In An Empty Valley" with no mention of issue.
Is that issue 1 ?
Groetjes Albert
I am sorry, but this is the version Isaue 3 Ting gave me to convert into a book.
We had hoped that Ting would be there in the background to help with any questions.
Which is unfortunately not the case now.
Then we have the same book.
My content reads:
1.1 The von Neumann machine instruction set
1.2 .. RISC..
1.3 .. NC4000 ..
2.1 NC4000 pin names an functions.
2.2 ..
3.1 ALU code and functions
3.2 Y-port ..
3.3 ... stack ..
3.4 shift ..
3.5 .. ALU ..
3.6 .. I/O ..
3.7 .. internal registers ..
3.8 .. bits .. i/o registers
4.1 pins ..
6.1 .. cycles ..
Can you comment on the antiquarian value?
Groetjes Albert
--
Don't praise the day before the evening. One swallow doesn't make spring. >> > You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the >> > hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in
the air. First gain is a cat purring. - the Wise from Antrim -
Contents
( page numbers are from the printed version )
Preface for the Third Edition
i
Forward for the First Edition
iii
My Electronic Bookshelf
v
Contents
ix
Figures
xii
Tables
xiv
Chapter 1
Introduction 1
1.1
Historical background 1
1.2
RISC Panacea 2
Chapter2
The NC4000 Chip 7
2.1
Features of NC4000 chip 7
2.2
External data paths 7
2.2.1
Main memory 11
2.2.2
Data stack and return stack 11
2.2.3
B-port and X-port 12
2.2.4
System timing and control 13
2.3
NC4000 architecture 14
2.3.1
The internal registers 14
2.3.2
Program sequencer 16
2.3.3
Data stack and return Stack 17
2.3.4
Arithmetic Logic Unit (ALU) 18
2.3.5
The I/0 ports 20
Chapter 3
The Instruction Set of NC4000 22
3.1
Classification of NC4000 instructions 23
3.2
ALU instructions 26
3.3
I/0 and memory instructions 31
3.4
Graphic models of some NC4000 instructions 33
3.4.1
Model of NC4000 ALU 34
3.4.2
The SWAP group 35
3.4.3
The DUP group 37
3.4.4
The binary ALU group 38
3.4.5
The multiply/divide group 39
3.4.6
Miscellaneous instructions 42
Chapter 4
NC4000 Computers 45
4.1
Commercial products using NC4000 chip 45
4.1.1
The early alphabetic boards 45
4.1.2
The Forthkits from Computer Cowboys 46
4.1.3
Products from Novix, Inc. 46
4.1.4
Products from Silicon Composers 47
4.1.5
Other companies and products 47
4.1.6
List of manufacturers 48
4.2
Build your own NC4000 computer 48
4.2.1
The CPU section 49
4.2.2
I/0 ports 50
4.2.3
Main memory 51
4.2.4
Data stack and return stack 53
4.3
Circuit boards for NC4000 computer 54
4.4
Hardware enhancements 55
4.4.1
PAL memory decoder OF5138 55
4.4.2
Stack expansion counter OF5493 57
4.4.3
Another novel memory decoding technique 58
Chapter 5
The cmForth Operating System 61
5.1
The kernel 61
5.1.1
The primitive Forth words 61
5.1.2
Memory accessing words 63
5.1.3
Multiply and divide 65
5.2
System variables 67
5.3
Terminal input and output 68
5.3.1
Primitive input and output words 68
5.3.2
Line input and output words 69
5.4
Number conversion 70
5.4.1
Convert digits to binary number 70
5.4.2
Convert binary number to ASCII string 72
5.4.3
Memory dump 73
5.4.4
Message output 74
5.5
Serial disk 75
5.5.1
Disk buffer manager 75
5.5.2
Disk read and write 77
5.6
The text interpreter 79
5.6.1
Parsing of words 79
5.6.2
Dictionary search 80
5.6.3
The interpreter 83
5.6.4
Power up and reset 84
5.7
Compiler 87
5.7.1
Compiler loop 87
5.7.2
Defining words 91
5.7.3
Control structures 93
5.7.4
NC4000 assembler 95
5.7.5
Compiler vocabulary 99
5.8
Optimizing compiler 99
5.8.1
Smart ; compiler 100
5.8.2
Smart ALU function compiler 101
5.8.3
Shift compiler 103
5.8.4
Merging of DUP 104
5.9
The target compiler 104
5.9.1
Utility compiler 105
5.9.2
Target dictionary 106
5.9.3
Variables in target dictionary 107
5.9.4
Separate target and host dictionary 108
5.9.5
Target compiler in action 109
Chapter 6
Programming Tips 112
6.1
Benchmarks 112
6.2
WORDS—listing the vocabulary 113
6.3
Memory dump 115
6.4
Line editor 116
6.5
Stack pictures 118
6.6
Display internal registers 119
6.7
Input and output 120
6.8
PICK and ROLL 122
6.9
Square-root 123
6.10
Terminal and disk server on IBM-PC 124
6.11
Arcsine by interpolation 127
6.12
High speed pattern generator 128
6.13
A/D conversion with NC4000 132
6.14
Fast byte flip 135
6.15
More vocabularies 136
Appendix A
cmForth Source Listing 138
Appendix B
cmForth Glossary 164
Index 170
This is what came from Ting to me originally
and he wanted to have edited, formatted and published on amazon
Having had a look elsewhere, it is probably closest to >http://forth.org/OffeteStore/OffeteStore.html
On Tuesday 9 January 2024 at 02:32:13 UTC, dxf wrote:
When it's our turn to lose interest, we won't give a damn either.
All that matters is that we profit while we do.
This is another one of your Definitely eXtra Fucking useless comments - as your name dxf states.
On Tuesday 9 January 2024 at 10:35:43 UTC, none albert wrote:
As you want to start of a flame war, can you at least SNIP the umptieth copy >> of the content of Ting's book?
Thank you.
I am very sorry, I just quite simply forgot to delete this part.
And I do not want a flame war.
He was asking me to comment in the way he commented which I did
- so it was him, not me who started it if so.
On 9/01/2024 9:58 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Tuesday 9 January 2024 at 10:35:43 UTC, none albert wrote:
In article <2f11c203-85e8-4da0...@googlegroups.com>,
Jurgen Pitaske <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 9 January 2024 at 02:32:13 UTC, dxf wrote:
When it's our turn to lose interest, we won't give a damn either.
All that matters is that we profit while we do.
This is another one of your Definitely eXtra Fucking useless comments - as your name dxf states.
As you want to start of a flame war, can you at least SNIP the umptieth copy
of the content of Ting's book?
Thank you.
Groetjes Albert
--
Don't praise the day before the evening. One swallow doesn't make spring. >>> You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the >>> hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in >>> the air. First gain is a cat purring. - the Wise from Antrim -
I am very sorry, I just quite simply forgot to delete this part.
And I do not want a flame war.
He was asking me to comment in the way he commented which I did
Hardly since it was a comment on your business spam and the self-promotion >therein. Perhaps you might consider instead an unobtrusive sig as the other >vendors do.
- so it was him, not me who started it if so.
It goes without saying sales to a businessman would make him smile.
What percentage of the profit made from the sales of your books goes
back to the original author?
It goes without saying sales to a businessman would make him smile.
What percentage of the profit made from the sales of your books goes
back to the original author?
it seems that
neither mpeforth.com
nor vfxforth.com
are the same company
On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 12:47:08 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 09:41:15 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 16 Jan 2024 at 18:38:34 CET, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>Thank you very much for the update.
it seems thatThe company is MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd.
neither mpeforth.com
nor vfxforth.com
are the same company
mpeforth.com
and
vfxforth.com
are domain names. Consider them as brands owned by the company.
Stephen
It still leaves the Wodni and Pelc post open,
where it states that MPEFORTH will disappear when the joint GMBH is established
- at least how I understand it:
https://wodni.at/
18 months ago it was stated there:
Wodni & Pelc GmbH Gründung
Wir befinden uns gerade in der Umgründung zur GmbH.
In diesem Schritt übernehmen wir die Microprocessor Engineering Ltd..
Unsere gemeinsame Folgewebsite finden Sie unter VFXForth.com
Unter der Marke VFX finden Sie unsere Produkte für
Deeply Embedded Systems, Compiler und Cross Language Interfaces.
And a quick translation of this post from 18 months ago:
Wodni & Pelc GmbH founding
We are currently in the process of becoming a GmbH.
In this step we are taking over Microprocessor Engineering Ltd.
You can find our joint follow on website at VFXForth.com
Under the VFX brand you will find our products for
deeply embedded systems, compilers and cross language interfaces.
Is there any statement from either party
who are supposedly members of this new company
started 18 months ago?
On Monday 29 January 2024 at 10:43:42 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 29 Jan 2024 at 07:53:10 GMT, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote: >>
On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 12:47:08 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:a) Statement about what?
On Wednesday 17 January 2024 at 09:41:15 UTC, Stephen Pelc wrote:
On 16 Jan 2024 at 18:38:34 CET, "Jurgen Pitaske" <jpit...@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you very much for the update.
it seems thatThe company is MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd.
neither mpeforth.com
nor vfxforth.com
are the same company
mpeforth.com
and
vfxforth.com
are domain names. Consider them as brands owned by the company.
Stephen
It still leaves the Wodni and Pelc post open,
where it states that MPEFORTH will disappear when the joint GMBH is established
- at least how I understand it:
https://wodni.at/
18 months ago it was stated there:
Wodni & Pelc GmbH Gründung
Wir befinden uns gerade in der Umgründung zur GmbH.
In diesem Schritt übernehmen wir die Microprocessor Engineering Ltd.. >>>> Unsere gemeinsame Folgewebsite finden Sie unter VFXForth.com
Unter der Marke VFX finden Sie unsere Produkte für
Deeply Embedded Systems, Compiler und Cross Language Interfaces.
And a quick translation of this post from 18 months ago:
Wodni & Pelc GmbH founding
We are currently in the process of becoming a GmbH.
In this step we are taking over Microprocessor Engineering Ltd.
You can find our joint follow on website at VFXForth.com
Under the VFX brand you will find our products for
deeply embedded systems, compilers and cross language interfaces.
Is there any statement from either party
who are supposedly members of this new company
started 18 months ago?
b) No.
In considering any potential response to a), please consider b).
Stephen
--
Stephen Pelc, ste...@vfxforth.com
MicroProcessor Engineering, Ltd. - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)78 0390 3612, +34 649 662 974
http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads
I c)
Is there any statement from either party
who are supposedly members of this new company
started 18 months ago?
You are basically stating by default, that the deal is off , and
MPE stays as is.
Thank you for confirming this.
[...]
I learnt a lot from the people here, nothing to do with transactional.
No disappointment here.
The Forth bookshelf will still be available. This how it started here.
I just wanted to post it here as a summary , before the posting stops on 22 Feb ...
You are spamming.
On Thursday 11 January 2024 at 00:16:21 UTC, dxf wrote:[..]
On 10/01/2024 6:49 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
On Wednesday 10 January 2024 at 06:10:52 UTC, dxf wrote:
[..]It goes without saying sales to a businessman would make him smile.This is business between the author and me - and none of your business.
What percentage of the profit made from the sales of your books goes
back to the original author?
Well there are 3 days left until the posting here stops.[]
Which I now think is a good thing.
And as a fun bit, I made a hardcover version of
PROGRAMMING A PROBLEM-ORIENTED LANGUAGE - Chucks own book.
It is there as eBook and Print Book for many years, but:
When amazon introduced the option as a hard cover, I had to try it out.
I NOW DO OWN A FIRST VERSION OF THE HARD COVER VERSION.
It is definitely a completely different feeling to flick through this one. Would anybody here be interested to own one?
I own an author approval version - so I am fine,
but if there is enough positive feedback, I will probably finish and publish this version as well.
Be sure to get your copy signed as the future of Forth is now ... collectables.
dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> writes:
Be sure to get your copy signed as the future of Forth is now ...
collectables.
Yip.
I find you lack of faith in the Forth dithturbing. -- Darse ("Darth") Vader
yeti wrote:
dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> writes:
Be sure to get your copy signed as the future of Forth is now ...
collectables.
Yip.
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I find you lack of faith in the Forth dithturbing. -- Darse ("Darth")
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