• Victor-Forth

    From Chuck Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 12:21:14 2023
    Here's a long shot.

    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.

    I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.

    I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
    Thanks

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  • From comp.lang.forth@21:1/5 to Chuck Jackson on Mon Sep 18 15:16:07 2023
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:21:17 PM UTC-4, Chuck Jackson wrote:
    Here's a long shot.

    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.

    I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.

    I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
    Thanks

    Did you have a question? I don't know what became of it.

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  • From Chuck Jackson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 18 17:31:37 2023
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:16:09 PM UTC-5, comp.lang.forth wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:21:17 PM UTC-4, Chuck Jackson wrote:
    Here's a long shot.

    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.

    I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.

    I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
    Thanks
    Did you have a question? I don't know what became of it.

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    Rick C.

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    Well that was a stupid posting!!!

    I meant to ASK if anybody had a disk image of it??

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  • From dxf@21:1/5 to Chuck Jackson on Tue Sep 19 13:09:23 2023
    On 19/09/2023 5:21 am, Chuck Jackson wrote:
    Here's a long shot.

    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.

    I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.

    I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
    Thanks

    Victor-FORTH may have assumed the same fate as Atila Forth referenced in the book 'Library of FORTH Routines and Utilities'. According to the mail-order form, Atila Forth was available for the IBM-PC, Apple II, Commodore 64/128, Atari 520 and Amiga. If so, it's vanished without a trace.

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  • From comp.lang.forth@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 03:19:27 2023
    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983).

    Maybe it would be a good idea to scan the book and to put its PDF it on web archive?

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  • From dxf@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 23:05:48 2023
  • From Chuck Jackson@21:1/5 to dxf on Tue Sep 19 06:52:45 2023
    On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:05:53 AM UTC-5, dxf wrote:
    On 19/09/2023 8:19 pm, comp.lang.forth wrote:
    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983).

    Maybe it would be a good idea to scan the book and to put its PDF it on web archive?
    It appears the author had a Forth column (4th Tip) in the Exidy Sorcerer user newsletter.
    These reference LMI's Z80 Forth for CP/M (*)

    http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V3N6_Sep1981.pdf
    http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V3N7_Oct1981.pdf
    http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N1_Jan1982.pdf
    http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N2_Mar1982.pdf
    http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N3_Apr1982.pdf
    http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N4_Jun1982.pdf

    (*) http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/cpm/Software/rlee/F/FORTH/BIG_Z80/
    Thank you for the links! The first edition of his book was written for the Exidy but it "died" so he aquired a Victor 9000.

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  • From comp.lang.forth@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 19 08:45:55 2023
    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983).

    Maybe it would be a good idea to scan the book and to put its PDF it on web archive?
    It appears the author had a Forth column (4th Tip) in the Exidy Sorcerer user newsletter.

    Almost $1000 in 1978… really „nice” money at that time.

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  • From dxf@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 12:37:04 2023
    On 20/09/2023 1:45 am, comp.lang.forth wrote:
    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983).

    Maybe it would be a good idea to scan the book and to put its PDF it on web archive?
    It appears the author had a Forth column (4th Tip) in the Exidy Sorcerer user newsletter.

    Almost $1000 in 1978… really „nice” money at that time.

    What Huang's book is worth now? Despite appearing alongside other forth books of the day, there's scant reference today. That it made it to two editions suggests it was somewhat popular. Can't imagine there'd have been many
    Victor 9000 owners, though.

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  • From Zbig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 00:54:07 2023
    What Huang's book is worth now?

    Never read it — so I have no idea. But considering the
    scarcity of Forth books it's worth preservation, I suppose.

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  • From dxf@21:1/5 to Chuck Jackson on Thu Sep 21 13:38:55 2023
    On 19/09/2023 5:21 am, Chuck Jackson wrote:
    Here's a long shot.

    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.

    I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.

    I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
    Thanks

    Perhaps you've already seen this:

    https://archive.org/details/@pauldevine

    One forth is listed though not the one you're after.

    The above link was referenced here:

    https://stardot.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23831

    There still appear to be some Victor 9000 enthusiasts still about. Might be worth contacting.

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  • From Lorem Ipsum@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 21:42:08 2023
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:16:09 PM UTC-4, comp.lang.forth wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:21:17 PM UTC-4, Chuck Jackson wrote:
    Here's a long shot.

    I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.

    I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.

    I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
    Thanks
    Did you have a question? I don't know what became of it.

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    Rick C.

    - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

    I don't get what happened. I use Google groups to post here, and somehow the post I'm replying to shows up as being from comp.language.forth. Is that what others see? What name is this post from? I'm not talking about the signatures, but rather the
    headers.

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    Rick C.

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  • From Zbig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 20 23:05:18 2023
    What name is this post from? I'm not talking about the signatures, but rather the headers.

    Sophia Loren… no, wait — from „Lorem Ipsum”, that's right.

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  • From dxf@21:1/5 to Lorem Ipsum on Thu Sep 21 15:20:41 2023
    On 21/09/2023 2:42 pm, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
    On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:16:09 PM UTC-4, comp.lang.forth wrote: ...
    I don't get what happened. I use Google groups to post here, and somehow the post I'm replying to shows up as being from comp.language.forth. Is that what others see? What name is this post from? I'm not talking about the signatures, but rather the
    headers.


    Google Groups having a Biden moment and forgetting your username?

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