• Re: Tclsh Plan9 XF

    From Christian Gollwitzer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 11 21:39:41 2021
    Am 11.10.21 um 21:27 schrieb Conor Williams:
    tclsh is now (again) late on Plan9
    xf is now working with androwish
    /c:202111101927:22

    Gavino?

    Christian

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 11 12:27:50 2021
    tclsh is now (again) late on Plan9
    xf is now working with androwish
    /c:202111101927:22

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to Christian Gollwitzer on Mon Oct 11 16:50:06 2021
    Gavinop
    On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 7:39:42 PM UTC, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
    Am 11.10.21 um 21:27 schrieb Conor Williams:
    tclsh is now (again) late on Plan9
    xf is now working with androwish
    /c:202111101927:22
    Gavino?

    Christian

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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 02:57:15 2021
    0L/QvtC90LXQtNC10LvRjNC90LjQuiwgMTEg0L7QutGC0Y/QsdGA0Y8gMjAyMSDQsy4g0LIgMjI6 Mjc6NTIgVVRDKzMsIGNvbm9yLncuLi5AZ21haWwuY29tOg0KPiB0Y2xzaCBpcyBub3cgKGFnYWlu KSBsYXRlIG9uIFBsYW45IA0KPiB4ZiBpcyBub3cgd29ya2luZyB3aXRoIGFuZHJvd2lzaCANCg0K V2hhdCBpcyB4Zj8NCg==

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to Oleg O. Nemanov on Thu Oct 14 06:07:27 2021
    the illusive xf... it can at times be difficult to find
    but if one was to canvas with text and imagine all the possibilities
    it possesses then бинго
    https://solvedissues.000webhostapp.com/

    ps: is El Presidento Putin still having the tit for tat with Navalny
    pps: does Navalny hold a seat in the Cabinet (thats an irish word for government) and if so, why no be a d.a. for Putin
    /c:202110141307:33

    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 9:57:17 AM UTC, Oleg O. Nemanov wrote:
    понедельник, 11 октября 2021 г. в 22:27:52 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    tclsh is now (again) late on Plan9
    xf is now working with androwish
    What is xf?

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to Oleg O. Nemanov on Thu Oct 14 07:34:22 2021
    ypas Oleg my friend...

    was Navalny a paedofile or what? sometime it is hard
    to discern wat is true and what is not...

    shur yer man Putin is a rock solid good guy -- with a b.b. in Judo..

    /c:202114101432
    ps: xf... hmm well -- worth having a look at it if you can find it...
    (and now runs on (if you have it) your phone my friend...
    pps:if you are stuck finding it --- let me know and i can email it to you
    email conor.williams@gmail.com with your email address for me
    to post it to you --- uncompiled -- u no google and jars and stuff
    ms exes are a nono with them -- denial of service and hakin' and
    all of dat
    ppps: love from the outer hebridies here in welsh country... (bogland mostly hard to get to)

    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 2:27:21 PM UTC, Oleg O. Nemanov wrote:
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 16:07:29 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    the illusive xf... it can at times be difficult to find
    but if one was to canvas with text and imagine all the possibilities
    it possesses then бинго
    https://solvedissues.000webhostapp.com/
    I don't understand :-).
    ps: is El Presidento Putin still having the tit for tat with Navalny
    I don't think so :-). Navalny broke the law and now he in a jail. It's ok.
    pps: does Navalny hold a seat in the Cabinet (thats an irish word for government) and if so, why no be a d.a. for Putin
    Navalny hold a seat in a jail :-D.

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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 07:27:18 2021
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 16:07:29 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    the illusive xf... it can at times be difficult to find
    but if one was to canvas with text and imagine all the possibilities
    it possesses then бинго
    https://solvedissues.000webhostapp.com/

    I don't understand :-).

    ps: is El Presidento Putin still having the tit for tat with Navalny

    I don't think so :-). Navalny broke the law and now he in a jail. It's ok.

    pps: does Navalny hold a seat in the Cabinet (thats an irish word for government) and if so, why no be a d.a. for Putin

    Navalny hold a seat in a jail :-D.

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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 07:51:53 2021
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 17:34:24 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    ypas Oleg my friend...

    was Navalny a paedofile or what?

    We don't know this for certain. Since when are other no longer crimes?

    sometime it is hard
    to discern wat is true and what is not...

    Sometimes yes. But not in Navalny case. He is scammer.
    He embezzled other people's and organization's money(he even
    stole from his associates). Nobody cares about he. Besides some
    political organizations outside Russia. He's just a media inflated
    dummy(and even as media person he is nothing at current time).
    Pay no attention to such people. We have people that really can
    make something good, but you willn't see they in your media :-).

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to Oleg O. Nemanov on Thu Oct 14 07:58:05 2021
    he embezzled other peoples money...
    like stole money...

    ok... what proof do you have of this? have you the organisations names that
    he stole from? and have you rock solid proof that he did so?
    /c:20211410:15:0-
    ps: in wales also if it is found out that something like that happens -- they throw
    the book at you...
    pps: god this is exciting talking to a real russian like you Oleg Comrade...


    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 2:51:55 PM UTC, Oleg O. Nemanov wrote:
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 17:34:24 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    ypas Oleg my friend...

    was Navalny a paedofile or what?
    We don't know this for certain. Since when are other no longer crimes?
    sometime it is hard
    to discern wat is true and what is not...
    Sometimes yes. But not in Navalny case. He is scammer.
    He embezzled other people's and organization's money(he even
    stole from his associates). Nobody cares about he. Besides some
    political organizations outside Russia. He's just a media inflated
    dummy(and even as media person he is nothing at current time).
    Pay no attention to such people. We have people that really can
    make something good, but you willn't see they in your media :-).

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 09:12:41 2021
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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 08:22:59 2021
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 17:58:07 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    he embezzled other peoples money...
    like stole money...

    Yes. Sorry my english.

    ok... what proof do you have of this?

    I'm not an investigator ;-). The only thing I have is my opinion based on my life experience and years of various publications about Navalny.
    And my life experience says me, that Navalny is ordinary scammer. Nothing more. Everything else is fictional for stealing more money. Your think about Navalny in somehow difficult :-). The things are simple: Navalny is not about ideology, politics or human; Navalny is just about money.

    have you the organisations names that
    he stole from? and have you rock solid proof that he did so?

    You can read some info about Navalny case here - https://rusbankrot.ru/en/society/yves-rocher-case-what-were-navalny-brothers-convicted-of/
    If you want to get an info about some situation nearer to truth,
    you better to read sources nearer to this situation :-). Because
    western media give info from the different point of view(the point of
    view beneficial for media owner).

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 09:28:54 2021
    Oleg Oleg my man... what are your thoughts on the changing of the name
    of the Russian countryland from the Soviet Union?
    What part of the motherland do you hail from yourself... or were you shipped out of the country as a young lad? or are u a girl perhaps masquerading as
    Oleg O. Nemanov? or are u Navalny himself perhaps? And have u ever committed
    a crime Oleg O. N.
    Kind Regards
    S uvazheniyem


    ps: your intrepid reporter conor.williams@gmail.com strikes again at the heart of
    de. ml... latersz

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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 09:20:33 2021
    0YfQtdGC0LLQtdGA0LMsIDE0INC+0LrRgtGP0LHRgNGPIDIwMjEg0LMuINCyIDE5OjEyOjQzIFVU QyszLCBjb25vci53Li4uQGdtYWlsLmNvbToNCj4gbG9vayB3aGF0IEkgZm91bmQgYWJvdXQgTmF2 YWxueSB0aGVyZSBqdXN0IGxhc3QgeWVhcjogDQo+ICjQv9C+0YHQvNC+0YLRgNC40YLQtSwg0YfR gtC+INGPINC90LDRiNC10Lsg0YLQsNC8INC/0YDQviDQndCw0LLQsNC70YzQvdC+0LPQviDRgtC+ 0LvRjNC60L4g0LIg0L/RgNC+0YjQu9C+0Lwg0LPQvtC00YM6ICkgDQo+IGh0dHBzOi8vc29sdmVk aXNzdWVzLjAwMHdlYmhvc3RhcHAuY29tL25hdmFsbnkuaHRtbCANCg0KOi0pIExvb2ssIGlmIHlv dSBsb3ZlIE5hdmFsbnksIHlvdSBjYW4gdGFrZSBoaW0gdG8gbGl2ZSBpbiB5b3VyIGNvbnRyeSA6 LSkuDQpObyBwcm9ibGVtLg0K

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 09:36:30 2021
    it has been noted that you have now slowed down by 8 minutes since your
    last emails/c

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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 09:49:15 2021
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 19:28:56 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    Oleg Oleg my man... what are your thoughts on the changing of the name
    of the Russian countryland from the Soviet Union?

    Changing of the name :-D? The country didn't change the name, the country
    was torn apart into several countries. From 1990 to 2000, almost all people survived as best they could, because they had no money, because enterprises went bankrupt due to the destruction of the economy. So, what my thoughts
    can be about "name changing"?

    What part of the motherland do you hail from yourself... or were you shipped out of the country as a young lad? or are u a girl perhaps masquerading as Oleg O. Nemanov? or are u Navalny himself perhaps? And have u ever committed a crime Oleg O. N.

    I'm a little marcian pony. There is no point in words. I can't prove anything by symbols
    in the text.

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to Oleg O. Nemanov on Thu Oct 14 10:11:02 2021
    if the United States invaded the Soviet states who would win Oleg? /c:20211410180002
    ps:it has been noted that you did not say where in the motherland you hail from

    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 4:49:17 PM UTC, Oleg O. Nemanov wrote:
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 19:28:56 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    Oleg Oleg my man... what are your thoughts on the changing of the name
    of the Russian countryland from the Soviet Union?
    Changing of the name :-D? The country didn't change the name, the country was torn apart into several countries. From 1990 to 2000, almost all people survived as best they could, because they had no money, because enterprises went bankrupt due to the destruction of the economy. So, what my thoughts can be about "name changing"?
    What part of the motherland do you hail from yourself... or were you shipped
    out of the country as a young lad? or are u a girl perhaps masquerading as Oleg O. Nemanov? or are u Navalny himself perhaps? And have u ever committed
    a crime Oleg O. N.
    I'm a little marcian pony. There is no point in words. I can't prove anything by symbols
    in the text.

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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 10:23:14 2021
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 20:11:04 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    if the United States invaded the Soviet states who would win Oleg?

    Well, USSR was destroyed not without USA help. There is no need for
    direct invasion to win somebody.

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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 14 10:25:35 2021
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 20:11:04 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    if the United States invaded the Soviet states who would win Oleg?

    USA only direct invade countries that are much weaker than them.

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to Oleg O. Nemanov on Thu Oct 14 10:28:06 2021
    you sound like you are rushing home
    duly noted /c

    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 5:25:37 PM UTC, Oleg O. Nemanov wrote:
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 20:11:04 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    if the United States invaded the Soviet states who would win Oleg?
    USA only direct invade countries that are much weaker than them.

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  • From Alex (Oleksandr) Malyushytskyy@21:1/5 to conor.w...@gmail.com on Thu Oct 14 14:14:58 2021
    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-7, conor.w...@gmail.com wrote:
    you sound like you are rushing home
    duly noted /c
    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 5:25:37 PM UTC, Oleg O. Nemanov wrote:
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 20:11:04 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    if the United States invaded the Soviet states who would win Oleg?
    USA only direct invade countries that are much weaker than them.

    I find posts about politics offensive , especially when such promotes Russian dictator Putin and spread bullshit of Putin propaganda and falsifications about democratic opposition.
    I would expect people stay away from such things in here or be warned/banned.

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  • From Conor Williams@21:1/5 to al...@flex-logix.com on Thu Oct 14 14:51:27 2021
    Alex, you are somewhat correct in that we have gone off the "Tcl" programming language topic, but were you in a pub or a coffee shop that I might frequent then you would hear 'us' talk about programming and may hear us talk about other topics; some of them topically current...

    However, staying on the political thread of chat, I don't understand how one can assume that any of our Colours were nailed to any mast in this or any
    other thread (see, Devils Advocate... (etalutsop))

    At this stage, Navalny is quite a topic of chat here in Eire...
    We, here in Western Europe are fascinated as to the goings on in Russia (CCCP
    , Soviet Union, USSR) and if nothing else we are very interested in what is happening
    there. Our country here is relatively peaceful and that in no small part is also thanks
    to some leaders on either side of us.... So also we are very surprised as to the
    apparant fight going on between some of the Russian Leaders and Navalny.

    You are right though in some respects; in that I will have a look around on some
    newsgroups for a more political, how do I say, bias...

    However, one should not bury their head in the sand too long my friend...
    All the best, and thank you for taking the time out to reply on this thread.
    I know things get people down sometimes and I do hope you are not
    too down about us not discussing Tcl/Tk all the time -- programming all
    the time can lead to
    O lack of motivation
    o unkempt clothes
    o lots of unclean coffee mugs
    o loss of women around u
    o lots of money
    o no apparent friends except the boss
    o unpleasant smells
    --- now don't get me wrong Alex, these can all be reversed by becoming a politican and going on Television which the first was actually made here
    in Condae an tír Eoghain
    Kind Regards
    Consubhair Mac Liaim

    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 9:15:00 PM UTC, al...@flex-logix.com wrote:
    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-7, conor.w...@gmail.com wrote:
    you sound like you are rushing home
    duly noted /c
    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 5:25:37 PM UTC, Oleg O. Nemanov wrote:
    четверг, 14 октября 2021 г. в 20:11:04 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    if the United States invaded the Soviet states who would win Oleg?
    USA only direct invade countries that are much weaker than them.
    I find posts about politics offensive , especially when such promotes Russian dictator Putin and spread bullshit of Putin propaganda and falsifications about democratic opposition.
    I would expect people stay away from such things in here or be warned/banned.
  • From pd@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 15 08:38:13 2021
    *plonk*

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  • From Rich@21:1/5 to Malyushytskyy" on Fri Oct 15 00:51:15 2021
    "Alex (Oleksandr) Malyushytskyy" <alex@flex-logix.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-7, conor.w...@gmail.com wrote:
    you sound like you are rushing home
    duly noted /c
    On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 5:25:37 PM UTC, Oleg O. Nemanov wrote:
    ???????, 14 ??????? 2021 ?. ? 20:11:04 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    if the United States invaded the Soviet states who would win
    Oleg? USA only direct invade countries that are much weaker than
    them.

    I find posts about politics offensive , especially when such promotes
    Russian dictator Putin and spread bullshit of Putin propaganda and falsifications about democratic opposition.

    In any case, such topics are quite off-topic for a Tcl group, no matter
    one's opinion of the topic, or the individuals involved.

    I would expect people stay away from such things in here or be warned/banned.

    This is Usenet, there is no "ban" ability (not in a "can't post" way).
    The "ban" is you adding the culprit to your kill file, wherein your
    newsreader "bans" the culprits posts from your view.

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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 15 01:03:42 2021
    пятница, 15 октября 2021 г. в 00:15:00 UTC+3, al...@flex-logix.com:
    I find posts about politics offensive ,

    May be you are right.

    especially when such promotes Russian dictator Putin

    Dictator :-D? You use the word from a western propaganda vacabulary :-).

    and spread bullshit of Putin propaganda and falsifications about democratic opposition.

    Alex, why do you think that you can say something about, for example, Putin related to internal politics
    until you live in Russia? For your info, Navalny support consist of 90% of schoolboys. I don't know how
    Navalny looks from point of view of foreigner, but his support of adults is go to zero and if you place
    in one sentence "Navalny" and "democratic opposition", then any adult adequate person will laugh at
    you.

    I would expect people stay away from such things in here or be warned/banned.

    You are right. But you said more offensive words then i and Conor together in just one sentence(so,
    you should be banned at first ;-)).
    Think about it.

    And Alex, we had a nice conversation with Conor. We did not invite you to participate in it.
    Why do you read what you don't like? Why do you tell others how and what to communicate?
    Don't you think that you act like a dictator? If you don't like this conversation, just move on.
    This is democracy.

    Другими словами - Олександр, пожалуйста, идите нахуй.

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  • From Oleg O. Nemanov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 15 01:51:45 2021
    пятница, 15 октября 2021 г. в 00:51:29 UTC+3, conor.w...@gmail.com:
    So also we are very surprised as to the
    apparant fight going on between some of the Russian Leaders and Navalny.

    Oh, Conor. There is no fight as some media show. Our contry have 145000000 people,
    several thousand(<10000) came to his infrequent rallies(and 90% of them are schoolboys). How do you thinkNavalny take money from
    foreign organizations for fight for democracy and spent money on himself;
    he take money from schoolboys for fight for democracy and spent money on himself.
    There is no fight. There is a scammer that take money for some work which his don't do. He have no real cases. For example, recently there was such a case - https://www.kp.ru/daily/28335.5/4480362/ (sorry for ru version, i can't found en). And
    thanks to publicity that a person did not go to jail for defending himself and his family.
    And Navalny wasn't there. He have no such cases where he do real things. Just idle chatter.

    Any adult should understand that in real life nobody makes your or my life better instead of
    ourselves. Everybody think about himself. And nobody will think about your well-being, instead
    of you. Only children believe in spiderman and so on. That why Navalny have mostly schoolboys
    as supporters.

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