• Re: qapplaH (was Re: Fixing Google Groups Styling)

    From luserdroog@21:1/5 to luserdroog on Thu Nov 11 15:43:53 2021
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:41:45 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote:
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:26:08 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote:
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:21:51 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote:
    On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 1:31:31 AM UTC-5, luserdroog wrote:
    On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 8:29:07 PM UTC-5, Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
    If you're one of the majority currently viewing the newsgroup through Google Groups, you've probably noticed they broke layout again.

    If you use a plugin for user stylesheets you can use the following to fix the layout:

    html-blob {
    white-space: pre;
    }

    I'm currently using:

    <https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-css/okpjlejfhacmgjkmknjhadmkdbcldfcb>
    Thanks a bunch! Google support has been wholly unhelpful about this. Got it to work with:

    <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/insert-style-sheet-temporarily/>
    This still works. (Actually, I'm doing "pre-wrap" but whatever.) But it has the unfortunate
    side effect of doubling the line spacing. Is there a trick to delete whatever extra newlines
    are being added?

    I tried using Firefox's style editor to peek into the style sheets in use,
    but there are dozens of sheets with hundreds of rules in each. And I don't know what I'm
    even looking for.
    I found something. Don't know what to do with it. GG appears to be inserting <br>
    elements where the newlines go. So, can I style the <br>s to *not* break?
    html-blob{white-space:pre-wrap;}
    br{display:none;}

    Ok, last one I promise. Is it possible to force the html-blob to use a fixed width font
    or tty font?

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  • From luserdroog@21:1/5 to luserdroog on Thu Nov 11 15:41:39 2021
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:26:08 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote:
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:21:51 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote:
    On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 1:31:31 AM UTC-5, luserdroog wrote:
    On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 8:29:07 PM UTC-5, Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
    If you're one of the majority currently viewing the newsgroup through Google Groups, you've probably noticed they broke layout again.

    If you use a plugin for user stylesheets you can use the following to fix the layout:

    html-blob {
    white-space: pre;
    }

    I'm currently using:

    <https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-css/okpjlejfhacmgjkmknjhadmkdbcldfcb>
    Thanks a bunch! Google support has been wholly unhelpful about this.
    Got it to work with:

    <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/insert-style-sheet-temporarily/>
    This still works. (Actually, I'm doing "pre-wrap" but whatever.) But it has the unfortunate
    side effect of doubling the line spacing. Is there a trick to delete whatever extra newlines
    are being added?

    I tried using Firefox's style editor to peek into the style sheets in use, but there are dozens of sheets with hundreds of rules in each. And I don't know what I'm
    even looking for.
    I found something. Don't know what to do with it. GG appears to be inserting <br>
    elements where the newlines go. So, can I style the <br>s to *not* break?

    html-blob{white-space:pre-wrap;}
    br{display:none;}

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  • From Denodster@21:1/5 to luserdroog on Fri Nov 12 00:15:04 2021
    In article <89d468a8-dee6-48cc-bce0-df3d4260bba5n@googlegroups.com>,
    luserdroog <luser.droog@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:41:45 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote:
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:26:08 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote:
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 5:21:51 PM UTC-6, luserdroog wrote:
    On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 1:31:31 AM UTC-5, luserdroog wrote:
    On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 8:29:07 PM UTC-5, Michael Haufe
    (TNO) wrote:
    If you're one of the majority currently viewing the newsgroup
    through Google Groups, you've probably noticed they broke layout again.

    If you use a plugin for user stylesheets you can use the
    following to fix the layout:

    html-blob {
    white-space: pre;
    }

    I'm currently using:


    <https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/user-css/okpjlejfhacmgjkmknjhadmkdbcldfcb>

    Thanks a bunch! Google support has been wholly unhelpful about this. Got it to work with:


    <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/insert-style-sheet-temporarily/>

    This still works. (Actually, I'm doing "pre-wrap" but whatever.)
    But it has the unfortunate
    side effect of doubling the line spacing. Is there a trick to
    delete whatever extra newlines
    are being added?

    I tried using Firefox's style editor to peek into the style sheets
    in use,
    but there are dozens of sheets with hundreds of rules in each. And
    I don't know what I'm
    even looking for.
    I found something. Don't know what to do with it. GG appears to be
    inserting <br>
    elements where the newlines go. So, can I style the <br>s to *not* break?
    html-blob{white-space:pre-wrap;}
    br{display:none;}

    Ok, last one I promise. Is it possible to force the html-blob to use a
    fixed width font
    or tty font?

    Why go through all this trouble? isn't there a traditional newsreader you
    could use instead of google groups?

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  • From Tavis Ormandy@21:1/5 to luserdroog on Fri Nov 12 23:49:53 2021
    On 2021-11-11, luserdroog wrote:
    Ok, last one I promise. Is it possible to force the html-blob to use a fixed width font
    or tty font?

    I use this in uBlock Origin (paste it into the My filters tab)

    groups.google.com##html-blob:style(white-space: pre!important; font-family: monospace)
    groups.google.com##html-blob > br:style(display: none!important)

    Tavis.

    --
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to luserdroog on Sat Nov 13 08:27:12 2021
    On 13/11/2021 01:12, luserdroog wrote:
    On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 11:15:13 PM UTC-6, Denodster wrote:
    In article <89d468a8-dee6-48cc...@googlegroups.com>,
    luserdroog <luser...@gmail.com> wrote:
    html-blob{white-space:pre-wrap;}
    br{display:none;}

    Ok, last one I promise. Is it possible to force the html-blob to use a
    fixed width font
    or tty font?
    Why go through all this trouble? isn't there a traditional newsreader you
    could use instead of google groups?

    Well, yeah. I have gnus installed and set up. But somehow I can't get used to it.
    I got used to the web interface back when it was DejaNews and just grumbled and adapted as they've slowly crippled and shackled it. Maybe there's another that'd suit me better. I keep hearing Thunderbird thunderbird thunderbird from
    everybody. But, you know ... inertia.

    That is to say, you're absolutely right. 100%. But I'm not gonna do it.


    Yup. In the end its s straight cost benefit exercise - learning the
    bloated feature ridden crap that is thunderbird, *or* fixing up the
    interface on the web site.

    Every time Thunderbird does a major upgrade I need to spend a day or two researching the web trying to turn it back to how it used to look and feel.

    "We don't fix bugs, we add new features"

    It's called the 'Poettering Maxim'.



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  • From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn@21:1/5 to Denodster on Wed Jan 19 07:56:16 2022
    Denodster wrote:

    Why go through all this trouble? isn't there a traditional newsreader you could use instead of google groups?

    Also, it is correctly transcribed and pronounced {Qapla'} (with emphasis on
    the last syllable; Klingon for “success”, “victory”), not ”qapplaH”.

    {qap} means “insist” instead, in Klingon transcription there is no doubling of consonants (e.g. “Kahless” is just {qeylIS}), and the verb modifier {-laH} means “be able to”.

    So, transcription errors aside, they said “(I am) able to insist” instead, which will cause a Klingon to laugh at them (and then kill them for showing weakness).

    <Picard> *facepalm* </Picard>

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