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    From mockturtle@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 25 08:42:59 2022
    Now also a GPU is named after Ada Lovelace https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-next-generation-ada-lovelace-gpus-are-rumored-to-consume-scary-amounts-of-power/

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  • From 25.BX943@21:1/5 to mockturtle on Sun Feb 27 01:23:54 2022
    On 2/25/22 11:42 AM, mockturtle wrote:
    Now also a GPU is named after Ada Lovelace https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-next-generation-ada-lovelace-gpus-are-rumored-to-consume-scary-amounts-of-power/

    That's nice ... but does it have anything to do with
    her thoughts on computing machines ? :-)

    Babbage knew how to build a computer - but he was fixated
    on using them to create math tables for navigation and such.
    Lovelace/Byron saw the potential far better - realized that
    anything that could in some way be rendered into numbers
    could be manipulated by computing machines.

    Poor Babbage ... he had it right, but the hardware of the
    time was gears and cogs.

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  • From Robin Vowels@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 26 23:55:36 2022
    On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:24:01 PM UTC+11, 25.BX943 wrote:
    On 2/25/22 11:42 AM, mockturtle wrote:
    Now also a GPU is named after Ada Lovelace https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-next-generation-ada-lovelace-gpus-are-rumored-to-consume-scary-amounts-of-power/
    That's nice ... but does it have anything to do with
    her thoughts on computing machines ? :-)

    Babbage knew how to build a computer - but he was fixated
    on using them to create math tables for navigation and such.
    .
    That's how it started, but he progressed to develop
    an "analytical engine" -- a computer, for which Ada Lovelace
    wrote programs.
    .
    Lovelace/Byron saw the potential far better - realized that
    anything that could in some way be rendered into numbers
    could be manipulated by computing machines.

    Poor Babbage ... he had it right, but the hardware of the
    time was gears and cogs.

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  • From 25.BX943@21:1/5 to Robin Vowels on Mon Mar 7 20:55:08 2022
    On 2/27/22 2:55 AM, Robin Vowels wrote:
    On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:24:01 PM UTC+11, 25.BX943 wrote:
    On 2/25/22 11:42 AM, mockturtle wrote:
    Now also a GPU is named after Ada Lovelace
    https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-next-generation-ada-lovelace-gpus-are-rumored-to-consume-scary-amounts-of-power/
    That's nice ... but does it have anything to do with
    her thoughts on computing machines ? :-)

    Babbage knew how to build a computer - but he was fixated
    on using them to create math tables for navigation and such.
    .
    That's how it started, but he progressed to develop
    an "analytical engine" -- a computer, for which Ada Lovelace
    wrote programs.

    Timeline ... she came in as he was trying to raise money
    for the 'analytical engine'. I think he'd sold exactly two
    of his 'difference engines' (to the Royal Navy I think)
    but nobody else was interested. Those were VERY complicated
    devices in and of themselves, very expensive to make.

    Babbage dropped in on Ada's hubby with a sales pitch. She
    sat in on his overly-tekkie description of the AE. The next
    morning she'd written a small program for the hypothetical
    device (it had one small bug). Her interest piqued, she
    struck up a closer association with Babbage (as pen-pals
    and 'biz partners' apparently, nothing naughtier was ever
    mentioned). She wrote up what amounted to sales ads for
    the thing - which tended to be half her own expositions
    on the subject.

    However Babbage never really did seem to see the wider
    possibilities of his AE. He still saw the use as doing
    practical math - just with more flexibility than the
    old DE. Ada was the only one who seemed to grasp the
    more exotic implication - anything that *could* be
    represented as numbers could be manipulated/analyzed/
    transformed by such a machine.

    So, while Babbage is the god of computers, Lovelace is
    the goddess of modern "computing". Babbage's vision was
    severely limited by the hardware of the era - gears and
    cogs and cams. Lovelace's vision was not dependent on
    the hardware, you can easily code her programming examples
    into Python or Pascal, 'C' ... or Ada ... and they work.

    Alas her life was rather short - some disease, maybe cancer -
    and she spent her last couple of years totally doped-up and
    unable to pursue her ideas.

    In any case, they both had it right - but Babbage was the
    one thwarted by the tech. A remarkable set of people, just
    100 years too early. The proto Woz and Jobs ???

    Oh, and let's not forget that Babbage got his idea for the AE
    from the Jacquard loom when he visited Jacquard's factory -
    another inspired bit of tech. And yes Jacquard had his own
    'systems programmer' in the back room, the only guy who knew
    how the control cards should be punched - the machine was
    probably HIS idea, but he gets no credit and nobody even
    seems sure of his name ... the boss slapped HIS name on it
    and that's all anyone remembers (sound familiar ? :-)

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  • From Robin Vowels@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 9 13:06:15 2022
    On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 12:55:17 PM UTC+11, 25.BX943 wrote:
    On 2/27/22 2:55 AM, Robin Vowels wrote:
    On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:24:01 PM UTC+11, 25.BX943 wrote:
    On 2/25/22 11:42 AM, mockturtle wrote:
    Now also a GPU is named after Ada Lovelace
    https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-next-generation-ada-lovelace-gpus-are-rumored-to-consume-scary-amounts-of-power/
    That's nice ... but does it have anything to do with
    her thoughts on computing machines ? :-)

    Babbage knew how to build a computer - but he was fixated
    on using them to create math tables for navigation and such.
    .
    That's how it started, but he progressed to develop
    an "analytical engine" -- a computer, for which Ada Lovelace
    wrote programs.
    Timeline ... she came in as he was trying to raise money
    for the 'analytical engine'. I think he'd sold exactly two
    of his 'difference engines' (to the Royal Navy I think)
    but nobody else was interested. Those were VERY complicated
    devices in and of themselves, very expensive to make.

    Babbage dropped in on Ada's hubby with a sales pitch. She
    sat in on his overly-tekkie description of the AE. The next
    morning she'd written a small program for the hypothetical
    device (it had one small bug). Her interest piqued, she
    struck up a closer association with Babbage (as pen-pals
    and 'biz partners' apparently, nothing naughtier was ever
    mentioned). She wrote up what amounted to sales ads for
    the thing - which tended to be half her own expositions
    on the subject.

    However Babbage never really did seem to see the wider
    possibilities of his AE. He still saw the use as doing
    practical math - just with more flexibility than the
    old DE.
    .
    That was important enough in itself, and anything more
    would have been of no interest to those Babbage was trying to
    interest as backers.
    .
    Ada was the only one who seemed to grasp the
    more exotic implication - anything that *could* be
    represented as numbers could be manipulated/analyzed/
    transformed by such a machine.

    So, while Babbage is the god of computers, Lovelace is
    the goddess of modern "computing". Babbage's vision was
    severely limited by the hardware of the era - gears and
    cogs and cams. Lovelace's vision was not dependent on
    the hardware, you can easily code her programming examples
    into Python or Pascal, 'C' ... or Ada ... and they work.

    Alas her life was rather short - some disease, maybe cancer -
    and she spent her last couple of years totally doped-up and
    unable to pursue her ideas.

    In any case, they both had it right - but Babbage was the
    one thwarted by the tech. A remarkable set of people, just
    100 years too early. The proto Woz and Jobs ???

    Oh, and let's not forget that Babbage got his idea for the AE
    from the Jacquard loom when he visited Jacquard's factory -
    another inspired bit of tech. And yes Jacquard had his own
    'systems programmer' in the back room, the only guy who knew
    how the control cards should be punched - the machine was
    probably HIS idea, but he gets no credit and nobody even
    seems sure of his name ... the boss slapped HIS name on it
    and that's all anyone remembers (sound familiar ? :-)

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