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  • Membership setting for this group greyed out?

    From Kevin Chadwick@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 31 16:41:20 2023
    Normally for mailing lists and other google groups.
    I have it set to receive every email which you can
    then easily reply to.
    That setting is greyed out for comp.lang.ada.
    Why is that?
    Can that restriction be lifted as I would much rather
    use an email client? I believe this list would get a
    boost in users as a result and a more consistent 80
    character width.

    Regards,
    Kevin Chadwick

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  • From Niklas Holsti@21:1/5 to Kevin Chadwick on Tue Aug 1 14:47:22 2023
    On 2023-08-01 2:41, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
    Normally for mailing lists and other google groups.
    I have it set to receive every email which you can
    then easily reply to.
    That setting is greyed out for comp.lang.ada.
    Why is that?


    I'm probably not the best person to answer you, but I hope you know that comp.lang.ada is basically not a "google group", but a "USENET news"
    group that can be accessed via google, but is better accessed through a "news-reader" program (a USENET client). Several e-mail programs, such
    as Thunderbird, include news-readers. When you read comp.lang.ada
    through a news-reader, it works very much like e-mail.


    Can that restriction be lifted as I would much rather
    use an email client?


    I don't know about the google interface to comp.lang.ada (I've never
    used it), so I can't answer. But if you would rather use an e-mail
    client, try to use its news-reader to access comp.lang.ada. You will
    need an account with a USENET service provider; there are both free
    (gratis) providers (https://www.eternal-september.org/ is often
    suggested) and providers that require small annual fees.

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  • From Kevin Chadwick@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 1 06:29:51 2023
    but I hope you know that
    comp.lang.ada is basically not a "google group", but a "USENET news"
    group that can be accessed via google, but is better accessed through a "news-reader" program (a USENET client).

    Thank you for responding. I didn't realise that.
    That is unfortunate. Most mailing lists just work immediately with any email client on any platform, including Android.

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  • From Niklas Holsti@21:1/5 to Kevin Chadwick on Tue Aug 1 18:53:18 2023
    On 2023-08-01 16:29, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
    but I hope you know that
    comp.lang.ada is basically not a "google group", but a "USENET news"
    group that can be accessed via google, but is better accessed through a
    "news-reader" program (a USENET client).

    Thank you for responding. I didn't realise that.
    That is unfortunate. Most mailing lists just work immediately with any email client on any platform, including Android.


    The point is that comp.lang.ada is _not_ a mailing list. Different
    technology. If you want to know more about the tech, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet.

    Some people (perhaps many people) think USENET is out of date, and
    indeed new discussion fora with a similar purpose are usually built on
    web technology. But I find that USENET offers a better user interface
    than all web fora I've ever experienced, even if limited to text only.

    There are several web-oriented Ada discussion fora, for example https://forum.ada-lang.io, not to mention stackoverflow and reddit.

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  • From DrPi@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 1 18:58:23 2023
    There are several web-oriented Ada discussion fora, for example https://forum.ada-lang.io, not to mention stackoverflow and reddit.

    There are also several Ada rooms (Ada, Alire, Ada Drivers Library...) on
    Matrix (https://matrix.org/).

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  • From Kevin Chadwick@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 1 11:11:52 2023
    There are several web-oriented Ada discussion fora, for example https://forum.ada-lang.io, not to mention stackoverflow and reddit.

    There are also several Ada rooms (Ada, Alire, Ada Drivers Library...) on Matrix (https://matrix.org/).

    Yes , I also prefer mailing lists to web tech. Matrix threading
    seems to be quite poor.

    Is there a decent mobile client for this usenet. Or any way to get all
    emails instead of just those that you are involved in?

    On Telegram someone else chimed in with:

    If anyone finds out how to change that setting, I will be so grateful.
    I remember to check my email, I don't remember to check the
    Google page

    Google doesn't even offer an rss feed anymore

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  • From G. B.@21:1/5 to Kevin Chadwick on Wed Aug 2 12:02:55 2023
    Kevin Chadwick <kevc3no4@gmail.com> wrote:

    Is there a decent mobile client for this usenet.

    There is (are). The self-describing header
    lines of posts identify some.

    Or any way to get all
    emails instead of just those that you are involved in?


    NNTP facilitates responses sent over
    SMTP or NNTP, whichever you wish.

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  • From Kevin Chadwick@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 12:36:04 2023
    NNTP facilitates responses sent over
    SMTP or NNTP, whichever you wish.

    I run a mail server and have set up mailing lists in the past.

    Thanks, however, what I am asking for is whether there is or
    can be an easy way for users to change the current system
    from sending emails for threads that we are involved in to
    sending emails for all messages? Obviously that wouldn't
    make it into a proper mailing list like most open source projects
    use.

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  • From Kevin Chadwick@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 2 23:23:33 2023
    make it into a proper mailing list like most open source projects
    use.

    PhoNews seems alright for Android but honestly setting up a server and
    client isn't exactly conducive to onboarding.

    Wouldn't a google group hosted account just work with an email address like
    the pqc-forum group does?

    --
    Regards, Kc

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