• TAWK lives...?

    From Ed Morton@21:1/5 to Jeff Paranich on Thu Mar 25 09:33:32 2021
    On 3/25/2021 9:23 AM, Jeff Paranich wrote:
    On Tuesday, 2 February 2021 at 14:57:07 UTC-7, Paul Anagnostopoulos wrote:
    Le vendredi 19 août 2011 01:33:31 UTC+2, crackerjack a écrit :
    Hi - this may be a long shot...

    TAWK - the absolutely wonderful awk variant/compiler from Thomson
    Automation (sadly, defunct) is no longer available as a commercial
    product - however it still works a treat even on 64-bit Windows 7
    platform.

    I am fairly proficient with awk (gawk, mainly), and would see a huge
    amount of value in using tawk and its enhance features to it's full
    extent. My problem is that I am unable to obtain a manual for tawk 5.0 >>>> which would unlock all the marvelous capabilities tawk holds.

    If there is anyone, anywhere in the world who has a manual (hard or
    scanned copy) available - I would really like to hear from you. I am
    willing to pay a reasonable amount to obtain such...

    Thanks and regards,

    Lance - Melbourne, Australia.

    Hi-
    which is the last version of TAWK ? --> 6.7 ?
    thx
    The latest version is v6.7. We are currently working on v6.8.

    Do you need a copy of the manual?

    ~~ Paul
    Hi Paul, this is amazing to see someone is progressing TAWK! Would I be able to get the dropbox link? jparanich -at- gmail /dot/ com. Thank you!


    s/amazing/horrifying/. We already have too many awk versiants, the last
    thing we need is the corpse of one being resurrected. If you have time
    to invest in improving "awk" in general then talk to the gawk guys to
    see what you can do to help and improve gawk to include whatever
    functionality you think gawk is missing that tawk provided.

    Ed.

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  • From Jeff Paranich@21:1/5 to Paul Anagnostopoulos on Thu Mar 25 07:23:32 2021
    On Tuesday, 2 February 2021 at 14:57:07 UTC-7, Paul Anagnostopoulos wrote:
    Le vendredi 19 août 2011 01:33:31 UTC+2, crackerjack a écrit :
    Hi - this may be a long shot...

    TAWK - the absolutely wonderful awk variant/compiler from Thomson Automation (sadly, defunct) is no longer available as a commercial product - however it still works a treat even on 64-bit Windows 7 platform.

    I am fairly proficient with awk (gawk, mainly), and would see a huge amount of value in using tawk and its enhance features to it's full extent. My problem is that I am unable to obtain a manual for tawk 5.0 which would unlock all the marvelous capabilities tawk holds.

    If there is anyone, anywhere in the world who has a manual (hard or scanned copy) available - I would really like to hear from you. I am willing to pay a reasonable amount to obtain such...

    Thanks and regards,

    Lance - Melbourne, Australia.

    Hi-
    which is the last version of TAWK ? --> 6.7 ?
    thx
    The latest version is v6.7. We are currently working on v6.8.

    Do you need a copy of the manual?

    ~~ Paul
    Hi Paul, this is amazing to see someone is progressing TAWK! Would I be able to get the dropbox link? jparanich -at- gmail /dot/ com. Thank you!

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  • From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 25 15:14:14 2021
    In article <897158a1-7035-4366-9cdf-fd19517739fdn@googlegroups.com>,
    ...
    s/amazing/horrifying/. We already have too many awk versiants, the last
    thing we need is the corpse of one being resurrected. If you have time
    to invest in improving "awk" in general then talk to the gawk guys to
    see what you can do to help and improve gawk to include whatever
    functionality you think gawk is missing that tawk provided.

    TAWK beats GAWK on performance and features by so many leagues that there's really no comparison. I think a lot of TAWK's features could not be implemented in GAWK without breaking compatibility.

    Incidentally, and for what it is worth, I actually am not interested in
    these new versions of TAWK that Paul, et al, are pushing. Nothing against
    it or them, mind you, but the version I have works fine and I'm not
    interested in non-branded downloads (if you see what I mean...)

    I'd love to see Pat T. himself come out of hiding and give it all his stamp
    of approval, but, of course, I'm not holding my breath...

    --
    The key difference between faith and science is that in science, evidence that doesn't fit the theory tends to weaken the theory (that is, make it less likely to
    be believed), whereas in faith, contrary evidence just makes faith stronger (on the assumption that Satan is testing you - trying to make you abandon your faith).

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  • From Jeff Paranich@21:1/5 to Ed Morton on Thu Mar 25 08:07:07 2021
    On Thursday, 25 March 2021 at 08:33:34 UTC-6, Ed Morton wrote:
    On 3/25/2021 9:23 AM, Jeff Paranich wrote:
    On Tuesday, 2 February 2021 at 14:57:07 UTC-7, Paul Anagnostopoulos wrote:
    Le vendredi 19 août 2011 01:33:31 UTC+2, crackerjack a écrit :
    Hi - this may be a long shot...

    TAWK - the absolutely wonderful awk variant/compiler from Thomson
    Automation (sadly, defunct) is no longer available as a commercial
    product - however it still works a treat even on 64-bit Windows 7
    platform.

    I am fairly proficient with awk (gawk, mainly), and would see a huge >>>> amount of value in using tawk and its enhance features to it's full >>>> extent. My problem is that I am unable to obtain a manual for tawk 5.0 >>>> which would unlock all the marvelous capabilities tawk holds.

    If there is anyone, anywhere in the world who has a manual (hard or >>>> scanned copy) available - I would really like to hear from you. I am >>>> willing to pay a reasonable amount to obtain such...

    Thanks and regards,

    Lance - Melbourne, Australia.

    Hi-
    which is the last version of TAWK ? --> 6.7 ?
    thx
    The latest version is v6.7. We are currently working on v6.8.

    Do you need a copy of the manual?

    ~~ Paul
    Hi Paul, this is amazing to see someone is progressing TAWK! Would I be able to get the dropbox link? jparanich -at- gmail /dot/ com. Thank you!

    s/amazing/horrifying/. We already have too many awk versiants, the last thing we need is the corpse of one being resurrected. If you have time
    to invest in improving "awk" in general then talk to the gawk guys to
    see what you can do to help and improve gawk to include whatever functionality you think gawk is missing that tawk provided.

    Ed.

    Funny, but the persuasion is probably lost on me, as I still program with SNOBOL4 as well.... =]

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  • From Paul Anagnostopoulos@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 25 08:43:02 2021
    s/amazing/horrifying/. We already have too many awk versiants, the last
    thing we need is the corpse of one being resurrected. If you have time
    to invest in improving "awk" in general then talk to the gawk guys to
    see what you can do to help and improve gawk to include whatever functionality you think gawk is missing that tawk provided.

    I have used TAWK since its inception. Now I don't actually write code in TAWK, but instead in Hearsay2, my own language that compiles into TAWK. I'm not interested in contributing to gawk. Even if I were, I spend all my free time contributing to LLVM.

    ~~ Paul

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  • From Ed Morton@21:1/5 to Jeff Paranich on Thu Mar 25 10:26:31 2021
    On 3/25/2021 10:07 AM, Jeff Paranich wrote:
    On Thursday, 25 March 2021 at 08:33:34 UTC-6, Ed Morton wrote:
    On 3/25/2021 9:23 AM, Jeff Paranich wrote:
    On Tuesday, 2 February 2021 at 14:57:07 UTC-7, Paul Anagnostopoulos wrote: >>>>> Le vendredi 19 août 2011 01:33:31 UTC+2, crackerjack a écrit :
    Hi - this may be a long shot...

    TAWK - the absolutely wonderful awk variant/compiler from Thomson
    Automation (sadly, defunct) is no longer available as a commercial >>>>>> product - however it still works a treat even on 64-bit Windows 7
    platform.

    I am fairly proficient with awk (gawk, mainly), and would see a huge >>>>>> amount of value in using tawk and its enhance features to it's full >>>>>> extent. My problem is that I am unable to obtain a manual for tawk 5.0 >>>>>> which would unlock all the marvelous capabilities tawk holds.

    If there is anyone, anywhere in the world who has a manual (hard or >>>>>> scanned copy) available - I would really like to hear from you. I am >>>>>> willing to pay a reasonable amount to obtain such...

    Thanks and regards,

    Lance - Melbourne, Australia.

    Hi-
    which is the last version of TAWK ? --> 6.7 ?
    thx
    The latest version is v6.7. We are currently working on v6.8.

    Do you need a copy of the manual?

    ~~ Paul
    Hi Paul, this is amazing to see someone is progressing TAWK! Would I be able to get the dropbox link? jparanich -at- gmail /dot/ com. Thank you!

    s/amazing/horrifying/. We already have too many awk versiants, the last
    thing we need is the corpse of one being resurrected. If you have time
    to invest in improving "awk" in general then talk to the gawk guys to
    see what you can do to help and improve gawk to include whatever
    functionality you think gawk is missing that tawk provided.

    Ed.

    Funny, but the persuasion is probably lost on me, as I still program with SNOBOL4 as well.... =]


    I'm just saying we already have to contend with differences between
    oawk, nawk, /usr/xpg[46]/bin/awk, original mawk, mawk 2.0, BWK awk, BSD
    awk, BusyBox awk, gawk, and others. It's ridiculous at this point how
    many awk variants there are. If someone really wanted to help the awk
    community then they'd volunteer to help improve the most popular, well-documented, and well-supported awk, gawk, rather than re-introduce
    yet another variant, tawk, to the pile.

    Ed.

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  • From Paul Anagnostopoulos@21:1/5 to Kenny McCormack on Thu Mar 25 08:45:28 2021
    On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 11:14:16 AM UTC-4, Kenny McCormack wrote:

    Incidentally, and for what it is worth, I actually am not interested in
    these new versions of TAWK that Paul, et al, are pushing. Nothing against
    it or them, mind you, but the version I have works fine and I'm not interested in non-branded downloads (if you see what I mean...)

    I'd love to see Pat T. himself come out of hiding and give it all his stamp of approval, but, of course, I'm not holding my breath...

    --
    The key difference between faith and science is that in science, evidence that
    doesn't fit the theory tends to weaken the theory (that is, make it less likely to
    be believed), whereas in faith, contrary evidence just makes faith stronger (on
    the assumption that Satan is testing you - trying to make you abandon your faith).

    The only stamp of approval you'll get from Pat is that he gave me the TAWK code base. He knows that a friend and I are working on new versions of TAWK. One reason you might want to use version 6.7 is that it is much faster than the last version 5.

    ~~ Paul

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  • From Kenny McCormack@21:1/5 to pcanagnostopoulos@gmail.com on Thu Mar 25 16:53:47 2021
    In article <ed3d9ffb-24d9-4cd2-8008-f63d2678594dn@googlegroups.com>,
    Paul Anagnostopoulos <pcanagnostopoulos@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    The only stamp of approval you'll get from Pat is that he gave me
    the TAWK code base. He knows that a friend and I are working on new
    versions of TAWK. One reason you might want to use version 6.7 is that
    it is much faster than the last version 5.

    Understand me clearly: I am in no way denigrating your efforts.
    I'm sure it is all good.

    I'm just stating for the record, speaking as a long-time TAWK booster (and
    long time user) that I, personally, have no need for any new versions (on Windows; but see below).

    (All of this on the off-chance that anyone actually cares what I think...)

    P.S. If I *were* going to lobby for anything, I would say that what I
    would *like* to see is a Linux version of TAWK. I really don't do
    Windows anymore, and, again, to the extent that I think any of this
    matters at all, the one thing that does bother me is the lack of a truly fantastic and wonderful AWK implementation on Linux (or, alternatively,
    I could have said "on a non-Windows platform).
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  • From Dirk Jan van der Wijden@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 30 05:41:13 2021
    Op woensdag 10 februari 2016 om 20:50:12 UTC+1 schreef pcanagno...@gmail.com:
    I received the TAWK code base from Pat Thompson roughly four years ago. A friend and I have been enhancing it and are now up to version 6.6. If you were a Thompson customer before Pat closed up shop, I can send you a copy of v6.6. It runs only on
    Windows.

    ~~ Paul

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