Hi, can anyone tell me how I should do the parameter calculation below in the MSM / MUMPS of Intersystems?when MSM / UNIX freezes and we lose any interaction with MSM, we have to perform a kill directly on the service to start again.
STAP SIZE
STACK SIZE
MAX MODIFIED BUFFERS
DISK I / O RATE
SLICE COMMANDS
PARTITION SIZE
BUFFER POOL SIZE
NUMBER OF MUSERVER PROCESSES
We have a rolling MSM that suffers from hangovers from the Activate service and the Workstation service several times a day and we are unable to determine if those hangouts are related to the number of users or overloading the system. There are times
On 7/7/2022 9:35 AM, TI HRTGB wrote:when MSM / UNIX freezes and we lose any interaction with MSM, we have to perform a kill directly on the service to start again.
Hi, can anyone tell me how I should do the parameter calculation below in the MSM / MUMPS of Intersystems?
STAP SIZE
STACK SIZE
MAX MODIFIED BUFFERS
DISK I / O RATE
SLICE COMMANDS
PARTITION SIZE
BUFFER POOL SIZE
NUMBER OF MUSERVER PROCESSES
We have a rolling MSM that suffers from hangovers from the Activate service and the Workstation service several times a day and we are unable to determine if those hangouts are related to the number of users or overloading the system. There are times
You need an MSM expert who can access your system and determine the best settings. That person should also be able to recommend how to update the overall system so that it is not overloaded. It might need simple adjustments or it might need additional hardware.
Em sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2022 às 11:43:09 UTC-3, Maury Pepper escreveu:times when MSM / UNIX freezes and we lose any interaction with MSM, we have to perform a kill directly on the service to start again.
On 7/7/2022 9:35 AM, TI HRTGB wrote:
Hi, can anyone tell me how I should do the parameter calculation below in the MSM / MUMPS of Intersystems?
STAP SIZE
STACK SIZE
MAX MODIFIED BUFFERS
DISK I / O RATE
SLICE COMMANDS
PARTITION SIZE
BUFFER POOL SIZE
NUMBER OF MUSERVER PROCESSES
We have a rolling MSM that suffers from hangovers from the Activate service and the Workstation service several times a day and we are unable to determine if those hangouts are related to the number of users or overloading the system. There are
than enough. I posted here to see if I can find any MSM/UNIX experts, however, it's difficult..You need an MSM expert who can access your system and determine the best settings. That person should also be able to recommend how to update the overall system so that it is not overloaded. It might need simple adjustments or it might need additional hardware.Yes I agree with you. Regarding the hardware, I don't think it's necessary to add anything, because the MSM was developed in the 90's and at that time the hardware was much inferior to the current ones, so an IBM AIX server with 8gb of memory is more
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 12:35:26 PM UTC-4, ti.h...@gmail.com wrote:times when MSM / UNIX freezes and we lose any interaction with MSM, we have to perform a kill directly on the service to start again.
Em sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2022 às 11:43:09 UTC-3, Maury Pepper escreveu:
On 7/7/2022 9:35 AM, TI HRTGB wrote:
Hi, can anyone tell me how I should do the parameter calculation below in the MSM / MUMPS of Intersystems?
STAP SIZE
STACK SIZE
MAX MODIFIED BUFFERS
DISK I / O RATE
SLICE COMMANDS
PARTITION SIZE
BUFFER POOL SIZE
NUMBER OF MUSERVER PROCESSES
We have a rolling MSM that suffers from hangovers from the Activate service and the Workstation service several times a day and we are unable to determine if those hangouts are related to the number of users or overloading the system. There are
than enough. I posted here to see if I can find any MSM/UNIX experts, however, it's difficult..You need an MSM expert who can access your system and determine the best settings. That person should also be able to recommend how to update the overall system so that it is not overloaded. It might need simple adjustments or it might need additional hardware.Yes I agree with you. Regarding the hardware, I don't think it's necessary to add anything, because the MSM was developed in the 90's and at that time the hardware was much inferior to the current ones, so an IBM AIX server with 8gb of memory is more
Depends on what's happened since the system was installed. If the user count has increased, then 8 gigabytes might not be enough anymore. I always start with more memory first - it's relatively inexpensive, and frequently solves performance problems.Nothing kills performance more than memory swapping in an active process.
Em sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2022 às 16:08:22 UTC-3, OldMster escreveu:times when MSM / UNIX freezes and we lose any interaction with MSM, we have to perform a kill directly on the service to start again.
On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 12:35:26 PM UTC-4, ti.h...@gmail.com wrote:
Em sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2022 às 11:43:09 UTC-3, Maury Pepper escreveu:
On 7/7/2022 9:35 AM, TI HRTGB wrote:
Hi, can anyone tell me how I should do the parameter calculation below in the MSM / MUMPS of Intersystems?
STAP SIZE
STACK SIZE
MAX MODIFIED BUFFERS
DISK I / O RATE
SLICE COMMANDS
PARTITION SIZE
BUFFER POOL SIZE
NUMBER OF MUSERVER PROCESSES
We have a rolling MSM that suffers from hangovers from the Activate service and the Workstation service several times a day and we are unable to determine if those hangouts are related to the number of users or overloading the system. There are
more than enough. I posted here to see if I can find any MSM/UNIX experts, however, it's difficult..You need an MSM expert who can access your system and determine the bestYes I agree with you. Regarding the hardware, I don't think it's necessary to add anything, because the MSM was developed in the 90's and at that time the hardware was much inferior to the current ones, so an IBM AIX server with 8gb of memory is
settings. That person should also be able to recommend how to update the
overall system so that it is not overloaded. It might need simple adjustments or it might need additional hardware.
Nothing kills performance more than memory swapping in an active process.Depends on what's happened since the system was installed. If the user count has increased, then 8 gigabytes might not be enough anymore. I always start with more memory first - it's relatively inexpensive, and frequently solves performance problems.
I agree, however, it's no use having memory available in the operating system and not having the proper settings for the MSM to use that memory.
I can have 64GB on IBM/AIX, however, the MSM taking advantage of only 2GB through the wrong settings.
So I would like to understand how to perform the proper calculations of these MSM parameters to correctly size MSM memory so that it uses all available memory on IBM/AIX.
Em sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2022 às 16:52:28 UTC-3, TI HRTGB escreveu:times when MSM / UNIX freezes and we lose any interaction with MSM, we have to perform a kill directly on the service to start again.
Em sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2022 às 16:08:22 UTC-3, OldMster escreveu: >>> On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 12:35:26 PM UTC-4, ti.h...@gmail.com wrote:
Em sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2022 às 11:43:09 UTC-3, Maury Pepper escreveu:
On 7/7/2022 9:35 AM, TI HRTGB wrote:
Hi, can anyone tell me how I should do the parameter calculation below in the MSM / MUMPS of Intersystems?
STAP SIZE
STACK SIZE
MAX MODIFIED BUFFERS
DISK I / O RATE
SLICE COMMANDS
PARTITION SIZE
BUFFER POOL SIZE
NUMBER OF MUSERVER PROCESSES
We have a rolling MSM that suffers from hangovers from the Activate service and the Workstation service several times a day and we are unable to determine if those hangouts are related to the number of users or overloading the system. There are
more than enough. I posted here to see if I can find any MSM/UNIX experts, however, it's difficult..You need an MSM expert who can access your system and determine the best >>>>> settings. That person should also be able to recommend how to update the >>>>> overall system so that it is not overloaded. It might need simpleYes I agree with you. Regarding the hardware, I don't think it's necessary to add anything, because the MSM was developed in the 90's and at that time the hardware was much inferior to the current ones, so an IBM AIX server with 8gb of memory is
adjustments or it might need additional hardware.
Nothing kills performance more than memory swapping in an active process.Depends on what's happened since the system was installed. If the user count has increased, then 8 gigabytes might not be enough anymore. I always start with more memory first - it's relatively inexpensive, and frequently solves performance problems.
I agree, however, it's no use having memory available in the operating system and not having the proper settings for the MSM to use that memory.
I can have 64GB on IBM/AIX, however, the MSM taking advantage of only 2GB through the wrong settings.
So I would like to understand how to perform the proper calculations of these MSM parameters to correctly size MSM memory so that it uses all available memory on IBM/AIX.
Any MSM/MUMPS experts?
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