• Norman Black, main programmer of Stony Brook (ADW) M2 compiler?

    From Chris Burrows@21:1/5 to Edward De Jong on Wed Feb 10 13:04:07 2021
    On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 7:14:58 PM UTC+10:30, Edward De Jong wrote:
    Does anyone in this group know Norman Black? I wanted to send him a fruit basket for all the great work he did back in the day for M2. I relied on his compiler for my daily bread, and few hundred dollars i paid for the compiler seems too low.

    That's an excellent idea. I don't recall having had any personal contact with Norman but the latest email address I could find for Stony Brook is dated 2004:

    stonybrk@ix.netcom.com

    M2 compiler prices in the late 1980's onwards were ridiculously low as developers thought that they had to match the price of 'competing' products from other vendors. They probably would not have survived either if they hadn't. Unfortunately, marketing
    genius always seems to trump technical genius. If it had been feasible in the pre-internet days to provide free trial versions the (computing) world might now be a different place.

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  • From Edward De Jong@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 10 00:44:57 2021
    Does anyone in this group know Norman Black? I wanted to send him a fruit basket for all the great work he did back in the day for M2. I relied on his compiler for my daily bread, and few hundred dollars i paid for the compiler seems too low.

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  • From Fruttenboel@21:1/5 to Chris Burrows on Thu Feb 11 04:01:34 2021
    On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 10:04:08 PM UTC+1, Chris Burrows wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 7:14:58 PM UTC+10:30, Edward De Jong wrote:
    Does anyone in this group know Norman Black? I wanted to send him a fruit basket for all the great work he did back in the day for M2. I relied on his compiler for my daily bread, and few hundred dollars i paid for the compiler seems too low.
    That's an excellent idea. I don't recall having had any personal contact with Norman but the latest email address I could find for Stony Brook is dated 2004:

    ston..

    M2 compiler prices in the late 1980's onwards were ridiculously low as developers thought that they had to match the price of 'competing' products from other vendors. They probably would not have survived either if they hadn't. Unfortunately, marketing
    genius always seems to trump technical genius. If it had been feasible in the pre-internet days to provide free trial versions the (computing) world might now be a different place.

    AFAIK Niklaus Wirth is still alive. You could ask him or Jurg Gutknecht.

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  • From tbreeden@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 11 19:12:07 2021
    On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 7:14:58 PM UTC+10:30, Edward De Jong wrote:
    Does anyone in this group know Norman Black? I wanted to send him a fruit basket for all the great work he did back in the day for M2. I relied on his compiler for my daily bread, and few hundred dollars i paid for the compiler seems too low.

    That sounds great. I'm in the same position and would like to contribute. I was lucky enough to be able to use Stony Brook for a number of projects when I was working at University. He was very helpful and fixed a bug I once found.

    Searching I found his LinkedIn entry: ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Norman Black

    Senior Software Developer at Saperion Inc

    Thousand Oaks, California, United States 63 connections Experience

    SAPERION AG
    Senior Software Developer

    Company Name

    SAPERION AG
    Dates Employed Jul 2004 – Present
    Employment Duration 16 yrs 8 mos
    Stony Brook Software
    Software Developer

    Company Name

    Stony Brook Software
    Dates Employed Apr 1990 – Jul 2004
    Employment Duration 14 yrs 4 mos

    Started as technical support and became lead developer for development tools. Company was sold to Saperion AG.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Without a LinkedIn account it would not give me his Contact Info, but if anyone does have one that may help.

    Tom

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  • From Chris Burrows@21:1/5 to tbreeden on Fri Feb 12 05:01:25 2021
    On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:42:08 PM UTC+10:30, tbreeden wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 7:14:58 PM UTC+10:30, Edward De Jong wrote:
    Does anyone in this group know Norman Black? I wanted to send him a fruit basket for all the great work he did back in the day for M2. I relied on his compiler for my daily bread, and few hundred dollars i paid for the compiler seems too low.
    That sounds great. I'm in the same position and would like to contribute. I was lucky enough to be able to use Stony Brook for a number of projects when I was working at University. He was very helpful and fixed a bug I once found.

    Searching I found his LinkedIn entry: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman Black

    Senior Software Developer at Saperion Inc

    Thousand Oaks, California, United States 63 connections Experience

    SAPERION AG
    Senior Software Developer

    Company Name

    SAPERION AG
    Dates Employed Jul 2004 – Present
    Employment Duration 16 yrs 8 mos
    Stony Brook Software
    Software Developer

    Company Name

    Stony Brook Software
    Dates Employed Apr 1990 – Jul 2004
    Employment Duration 14 yrs 4 mos

    Started as technical support and became lead developer for development tools. Company was sold to Saperion AG.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Without a LinkedIn account it would not give me his Contact Info, but if anyone does have one that may help.

    Tom

    I'm on LinkedIn but that doesn't help to get his Contact info. However, I've sent him a connection invitation with a message letting him know that members of this group want to contact him.

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  • From Rainard Buchmann@21:1/5 to tbreeden on Fri Feb 12 18:23:28 2021
    "Chris Burrows" <cfbsoftware@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:e7483a83-a04c-419e-9ff5-5d661dc41a30n@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 1:42:08 PM UTC+10:30, tbreeden wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 7:14:58 PM UTC+10:30, Edward De
    Jong wrote:
    Does anyone in this group know Norman Black? I wanted to send him a fruit basket for all the great work he did back in the day for M2. I relied on his compiler for my daily bread, and few hundred dollars i paid for the compiler seems too low.
    That sounds great. I'm in the same position and would like to contribute.
    I was lucky enough to be able to use Stony Brook for a number of projects when I was working at University. He was very helpful and fixed a bug I
    once found.

    Searching I found his LinkedIn entry: ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Norman Black

    Senior Software Developer at Saperion Inc

    Thousand Oaks, California, United States 63 connections Experience

    SAPERION AG
    Senior Software Developer

    Company Name

    SAPERION AG
    Dates Employed Jul 2004 - Present
    Employment Duration 16 yrs 8 mos
    Stony Brook Software
    Software Developer

    Company Name

    Stony Brook Software
    Dates Employed Apr 1990 - Jul 2004
    Employment Duration 14 yrs 4 mos

    Started as technical support and became lead developer for development
    tools. Company was sold to Saperion AG. ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Without a LinkedIn account it would not give me his Contact Info, but if anyone does have one that may help.

    Tom

    I'm on LinkedIn but that doesn't help to get his Contact info. However, I've sent him a connection invitation with a message letting him know that
    members of this group want to contact him.

    I'm networked with Norman at LinkedIn, it tells me me his email : normanpcn@gmail.com

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  • From Fons De Wolf@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 18 03:17:33 2021
    Op woensdag 10 februari 2021 om 09:44:58 UTC+1 schreef Edward De Jong:
    Does anyone in this group know Norman Black? I wanted to send him a fruit basket for all the great work he did back in the day for M2. I relied on his compiler for my daily bread, and few hundred dollars i paid for the compiler seems too low.

    I have known Norman Black and Richard Gogesch, the owner of Stony Brook, very well. I was in their office in Thousand Oaks (CA) a couple of times.
    In 1999 .. 2000 Norman has written a VBA compiler to work under Pythagoras CAD+GIS software. I'm using the VBA in Pythagoras nearly every day for my work, so I'm very gratefull to him for the excellent work he did.
    The M2 compiler (ADW Software did buy a licence from Saperion), is now further maintained and used by Pythagoras.

    After the company was bought by Saperion (later sold to Lexmark, ...) I had ocasionally contact with Norman, but after a few years I did not succeed to reach him, nor Richard anymore. We were looking for his help.
    I guess at a certain moment Saperion stopped the CA office.

    Fons De Wolf
    ADW Software

    Note: you can get the newest ADW M2 compiler for free. Just contact me!

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  • From rob@21:1/5 to fons.de.wolf@botanico.be on Wed Apr 28 20:01:56 2021
    On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 03:17:33 -0700 (PDT), Fons De Wolf <fons.de.wolf@botanico.be> wrote:

    Op woensdag 10 februari 2021 om 09:44:58 UTC+1 schreef Edward De Jong:
    Does anyone in this group know Norman Black? I wanted to send him a fruit basket for all the great work he did back in the day for M2. I relied on his compiler for my daily bread, and few hundred dollars i paid for the compiler seems too low.

    I have known Norman Black and Richard Gogesch, the owner of Stony Brook, very well. I was in their office in Thousand Oaks (CA) a couple of times.
    In 1999 .. 2000 Norman has written a VBA compiler to work under Pythagoras CAD+GIS software. I'm using the VBA in Pythagoras nearly every day for my work, so I'm very gratefull to him for the excellent work he did.
    The M2 compiler (ADW Software did buy a licence from Saperion), is now further maintained and used by Pythagoras.

    After the company was bought by Saperion (later sold to Lexmark, ...) I had ocasionally contact with Norman, but after a few years I did not succeed to reach him, nor Richard anymore. We were looking for his help.
    I guess at a certain moment Saperion stopped the CA office.

    Fons De Wolf
    ADW Software

    Note: you can get the newest ADW M2 compiler for free. Just contact me!

    I'm interested in the newest ADW M2 compiler. How do I contact you?
    I can be reached at rob at drrob one dot com

    --rob

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  • From rob@21:1/5 to fons.de.wolf@botanico.be on Wed Apr 28 20:33:40 2021
    On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 03:17:33 -0700 (PDT), Fons De Wolf <fons.de.wolf@botanico.be> wrote:

    Op woensdag 10 februari 2021 om 09:44:58 UTC+1 schreef Edward De Jong:
    Does anyone in this group know Norman Black? I wanted to send him a fruit basket for all the great work he did back in the day for M2. I relied on his compiler for my daily bread, and few hundred dollars i paid for the compiler seems too low.

    I have known Norman Black and Richard Gogesch, the owner of Stony Brook, very well. I was in their office in Thousand Oaks (CA) a couple of times.
    In 1999 .. 2000 Norman has written a VBA compiler to work under Pythagoras CAD+GIS software. I'm using the VBA in Pythagoras nearly every day for my work, so I'm very gratefull to him for the excellent work he did.
    The M2 compiler (ADW Software did buy a licence from Saperion), is now further maintained and used by Pythagoras.

    After the company was bought by Saperion (later sold to Lexmark, ...) I had ocasionally contact with Norman, but after a few years I did not succeed to reach him, nor Richard anymore. We were looking for his help.
    I guess at a certain moment Saperion stopped the CA office.

    Fons De Wolf
    ADW Software

    Note: you can get the newest ADW M2 compiler for free. Just contact me!

    I downloaded the March 2021 version from modula2.org

    Still no-go for me.

    It's not a console app; it uses TextWindows. When I try to link the
    pgm, I get this error
    Imported modules need compilation
    IMP WIN32
    IMP WINUSER

    This is on Win 10 20H2

    Any suggestions?

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