• running PL/I optimizer programs on old MVS

    From nobody in particular@21:1/5 to Eric Jackson on Mon Jul 20 18:48:38 2020
    On 01/05/2020 10:38, Eric Jackson wrote:
    On 04/30/2020 21:26, dwegscheid@gmail.com wrote:
    Thanks for the information. Coming back to the question:

    is it legitimate to have a copy of the transient libraries so that I
    can run load modules than someone else created? If so, where can one
    find them for MVS 3.8?


    No.  The transient library was a licensed product.  IBM will not sell
    you a license for it to run on Hercules.  If you did find the modules somewhere, IBM would consider you in violation of their intellectual
    property rights (IANAL, but that was the phrase used when I worked for
    IBM) but they would consider you too small a fish to bother with unless
    you started to compete with them in some visible way.

    I doubt a guy running MVS 3.8J is going to compete with IBM, even in an invisible way.

    The question is probably more whether the LE abomination will even run
    on MVS/SP than whether somebody can find the modules or whether IBM will
    care.

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  • From Eric Jackson@21:1/5 to nobody in particular on Tue Jul 21 16:49:39 2020
    On 7/20/2020 11:48 AM, nobody in particular wrote:
    On 01/05/2020 10:38, Eric Jackson wrote:
    On 04/30/2020 21:26, dwegscheid@gmail.com wrote:
    Thanks for the information. Coming back to the question:

    is it legitimate to have a copy of the transient libraries so that I
    can run load modules than someone else created? If so, where can one
    find them for MVS 3.8?


    No.  The transient library was a licensed product.  IBM will not sell
    you a license for it to run on Hercules.  If you did find the modules
    somewhere, IBM would consider you in violation of their intellectual
    property rights (IANAL, but that was the phrase used when I worked for
    IBM) but they would consider you too small a fish to bother with
    unless you started to compete with them in some visible way.

    I doubt a guy running MVS 3.8J is going to compete with IBM, even in an invisible way.

    The question is probably more whether the LE abomination will even run
    on MVS/SP than whether somebody can find the modules or whether IBM will care.


    The Transient Library predated the "LE abomination", it was the runtime
    library for programs created by the PL/I Optimizer. It would run on
    3.8J perfectly fine. For that matter it would also run on MVT just fine.

    It was also really cheap, I think about $14 per month per machine back
    when I had to care about such things.

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